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不好意思 主委給我們一個具體的時間對 就是說他今天送過來我們答應半年評估一次嘛這次已經另外一個半年到我們就會評估評估的時候覺得可以開放更大的範圍的話我想我們最近大概就會對外說明我們的評估結果好 最近啦 不過我們還有提到境內發行的比特幣現貨ETF啦我想這個部分今晚會可不可以在一個月內給本席一個報告"},{"start":621.502,"end":636.252,"text":"因為境內的部分這個我們會按照我們vespa專法的進度的好那三個月好不好三個月可以嗎那個報告沒問題啊可以提供三個月謝謝那這個財政部長可以請回我這邊接下來要討論股票代幣化的事情"},{"start":637.592,"end":660.548,"text":"納茲達克在上個月或SEC的允許特定股票得以代幣化的形式來交易結算紐交所也在這個月18號向SEC送件未來365天24小時蘋果的股票NVIDIA股票甚至TSMC的ADR都有可能在區塊鏈上面交易而且是不停歇的這其實就是RWA的一種形式"},{"start":660.928,"end":679.126,"text":"金管會的RWA代幣化的小組其實在去年已經完成驗證技術的可行性想請問一下主委後續規劃怎麼樣股票代幣化什麼時候開放因為這個跟院長報告這個東西開放會造成磁吸的效應資金可能會挪移我們很可能會喪失所謂的定價權這件事情"},{"start":681.348,"end":696.182,"text":"這個時間不多所以主委能不能跟我們提一下什麼時候開放有沒有預計的時間謝謝委員我想主要是這樣我們現在有兩個軌道一個是虛擬資產交易VASP專法這一塊RW的部分因為台灣的法治架構是因為我們有政交法"},{"start":696.863,"end":720.769,"text":"我們假設是我們今天假設他今天的交易是同一個標的同一個管理的話假設我們的RWA是一個有價證券的部分的話我們會適用證交法的規定來處理嘛是那另外RWA那個範圍有非常的多好像剛才講有些是非有價證券那是另外一個所以我們現在正在研究我們現在已經開始在做一些在未來交易平台的建構還就是我們第一波會上"},{"start":721.709,"end":745.876,"text":"上這個RWA的這個商品是什麼我們已經開始找吉寶還有我們的F4還有相關單位已經開過很多次會我們最近會定調這個部分因為在時間的持續還有基礎的建設還要做我想可能也沒有那麼快可能短期可能沒辦法上線主委會後能不能有人一起到我們辦公室來一起來討論一起來加進這一方面的努力好嗎"},{"start":746.536,"end":763.089,"text":"那最後剩一點時間麻煩有請央行楊總裁那楊總裁到來之前呢我想交付一份比特幣Bitcoin Reserve for Taiwan的美國參議員的幕僚機構所幫台灣做的一份報告我想交給院長可不可以院長到前面我們交付給你"},{"start":778.783,"end":799.041,"text":"好謝謝院長為什麼我們一直在提這個戰略儲備因為這是我們金融韌性的一部分這份報告認為台灣適合一定程度一定量的比特幣作為儲備的資產因為這是金融韌性的一部分我們也可以看到現在連美國印太司令都已經公開表達比特幣是國家級安全資產的潛力"},{"start":800.402,"end":826.174,"text":"那未來如果再發生像伊朗宣布荷木茲海峽的通行費現用比特幣穩定幣或人民幣付款的時候我們才有能力因應嘛然而我們目前的國家儲備沒有比特幣也沒有穩定幣只有人民幣如果未來發生相關的情況難道院長想要付人民幣來通行海峽嗎我想上次詢答的時候我們感謝我們楊總裁啦說時空環境會改變改變的時候就會調整"},{"start":826.934,"end":850.852,"text":"但是我們該變的時候就要趕快大力的變現在院長在這裡請教一下院長這個央行有比特幣戰略儲備的報告那我們現在看到穩定幣也可能是這種方法風險可能更低啦我們的RWA的小組都研議的很多能不能請院長下指令啦研議一下如果政府將先從非常小的一部分外匯沉底非常小"},{"start":851.933,"end":872.455,"text":"換成穩定幣或者代幣化的債券因為在極端狀況發生的時候這些黃金這些美元這些美債不一定外債外幣不一定好更換或者是去交易所以這一點RWA這種區塊鏈上的數位代幣就會是非常重大的我們的金融韌性的一部分"},{"start":872.935,"end":883.669,"text":"能不能請央行這裡或者是責成我們相關的部會院長能不能答應研議一下能不能在一個月內提出一份穩定幣或數位貨幣的國家儲備的報告"},{"start":885.485,"end":912.533,"text":"現在的資料顯示上沒有國家其他國家把這個比特幣列為外匯的存底不好意思您可能沒有看央行的報告現在已經有捷克開始這樣做還有越來越多的國家都在研議台灣的做法比較穩定的是說我們希望是不是能朝向發行一種穩定幣的方式來先進入到這樣的一個虛擬貨幣的世界裡面去我想未來的金融我們一起努力跟2300萬通貨一起努力好嗎 謝謝好 謝謝委員謝謝各位委員"},{"start":916.061,"end":927.073,"text":"謝謝卓院長下一位王正旭委員質詢以書面提出請行政院書面答覆並列入紀錄刊登公報"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:33:20+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:33:22.795667+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請卓院長、金管會彭主委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-28T11:33:22.795667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:33:25.591333+08:00","text":"請卓院長還有金管會主委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:33:25.591333+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:33:28.387000+08:00","text":"葛委員好。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:33:28.387000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:33:29.167000+08:00","text":"院長好、主委好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:33:30.508000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:33:54.702000+08:00","text":"OECD發布的數位經濟展望報告已經說了，數位經濟的成長率是總體經濟的2.5到3倍，因為數位經濟有零邊際成本的特性，軟體、AI、數據等等實體資源配合在一起會是新型態的數位金融，所以當我們在討論到亞洲資產管理中心時，我們不應該只管理實體的，數位的、虛擬的也都要。","quality":0.991},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:33:55.362000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:34:05.305000+08:00","text":"很高興看到院長在一開始就說了，虛擬資產服務法草案是優先法案、也已經送到立法院來，我們也感謝主委，我們一起來討論。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:34:05.305000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:34:21.149000+08:00","text":"我們這麼努力不外乎是希望能夠建立友善、穩定、安全、同步發展的金融環境，也要接軌國際跟時代，本席在虛擬資產服務法裡面也有提出一個版本，兩個部分想要特別拜託院長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:34:21.149000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:35:02.789000+08:00","text":"第一個，專法通過後VASP業務會持續成長，穩定幣去年的總交易量就達到46兆美元，年增長率是106%，昨天的新聞顯示亞洲占比三分之二，然而目前虛擬資產的相關業務是由金管會底下的證期局主管，現在做得很棒，但是未來再放大的時候，希望量能夠搭配得上，因此本席的草案版本裡面有明定要設立專責單位以及專責人員，而且人數要依業務增減調整，以避免未來金管會的人力受到影響，沒有辦法好好來發展。","quality":0.924},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:35:03.309000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:35:21.075000+08:00","text":"這部分能不能現在請院長承諾，未來我們多超前部署一下、給金管會多一點的資源，看看未來證期局要擴大還是未來要成立新的局處，院長可不可以先給我們主委一個強心針，說我們同意早一點部署？","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:35:21.840000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:35:43.374000+08:00","text":"因應金融創新的各項業務，我想也不是只有虛擬資產，為了因應這個新的時代來臨，需要去做更多的評估，計算出未來的業務量、人員量，如果有一個這樣的分析，當然政府會在跟民間一起合作進步的這個角度上來支持我們對組織上的檢討。很好！","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:35:44.175000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:35:58.285000+08:00","text":"謝謝院長，再麻煩金管會主委持續推進，之前院長有同意，確實有增加了14名人力，我們也希望未來單位在人力上也能持續擴張，同時院長也提到要跟民間一起來努力。","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:35:59.045000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:36:10.491000+08:00","text":"院長，在我們新的這個草案裡面，這個虛擬資產公會（VASP）有提到拿出一部分的經費來投入一個基金，政府這裡可不可以也出一部分？","quality":0.821},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:36:10.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:36:20.876000+08:00","text":"因為教育非常的重要，市場的教育如阻詐、防詐，讓產業、民眾都可以有機會一起進步，讓臺灣的VASP業者可以真的去打世界賽。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:36:20.876000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:36:50.443000+08:00","text":"但目前在專法裡面，只有公會投入，政府如果長期在VASP的發展上缺席的話，我想也不太好，是不是能夠評估一下，前幾年以政府配對的方式，公會有出錢，政府可不可以搭配，比如說業者出一億，政府就出一億，當國人越了解虛擬資產，詐騙也就會越低，這一點能不能請院長同意這樣的一個方向，有限時間裡限量的match，研議一下可不可以在一個月內給本席一個報告？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:36:51.444000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:36:52.285000+08:00","text":"請主委先來分析說明。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:36:53.266000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:37:27.949000+08:00","text":"跟委員說明，剛剛第一個提到人力的部分，過去人總對我們非常的支持，他也提供我們初期非常充分的人力，但是確實隨著業務量增加，下一階段我們會按照剛剛院長的指示，跟上人事的配置，剛剛提到我們有參看國外很多的制度，看有沒有像這種金融安全網的設計，主要會有這個構想是因為就好像我們的銀行有存保、有保險安定基金這樣的概念，其實我們也看到了，國外比較像是業者自發式的做一些比如說……","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:37:27.949000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:37:33.891000+08:00","text":"但因為我們的VASP稍微有比較晚，late follower，所以政府可不可以再多補一些進去搭配？","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:37:34.671000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:37:43.155000+08:00","text":"我們會參考國際上的做法，因為畢竟VASP剛開始，關於這個過程，我想我們還要經過大家的討論。","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:37:44.434000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:37:46.096000+08:00","text":"能不能一個月內提供一份研議報告？","quality":1},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:37:46.537000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:37:53.886000+08:00","text":"可以，沒問題，可以把國際上一些做法、可行性替代方案，比如說過去我們有類似的經驗，都可以提供給委員參考。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:37:54.026000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:37:59.293000+08:00","text":"謝謝，臺灣是數位之島、科技之島，我相信我們可以做得比別人更好，所以我想我們說不定可以領先。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:38:00.114000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:38:46.211000+08:00","text":"另外我們也看一下投影片，之前我們也展示出來，希望能夠有政府、銀行跟VASP業者三方合作的機制，現在也做得蠻不錯的，我們也給院長跟主委一個掌聲，這個其實也是日本的做法，分業、監管各取所長，大家都有湯喝，但是現在外國政府正在提供誘因要把整碗湯端走，院長看一下這張圖，這是世界各國為了推動虛擬資產的產業，在租稅上給予產業幫助，我們看到泰國、葡萄牙、德國、薩爾瓦多、阿聯酋都有，有一些是個人的租稅優惠，有一些是間接的、有些是直接的，有的是兩者並行的，公司稅可以減少。","quality":0.995},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:38:46.871000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:39:05.121000+08:00","text":"請問院長，雖然部長好像在猶豫要不要上來，但沒有關係，我先直接講，院長，世界各國都對虛擬資產這個新生兒給予租稅優惠，我們能不能也規劃相應的政策，說不定臺灣可以變全球數位資產中心，這不會比亞洲資產管理中心更差嘛！","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:39:05.681000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:39:18.148000+08:00","text":"例如我們豁免增值稅到2035年，或者對合法合規的VASP業者五年內免公司稅，我相信各國都想要把湯端過去，我們能不能也搶更多過來？","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:39:19.309000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:39:33.167000+08:00","text":"我們VASP業者真的非常優秀，有點像紅葉少棒隊，都拿著木棒在打棒球，現在政府很負責任的要進來了，我們可不可以買最好的球套、買最好的球棒，甚至吸引更多的人才進來？","quality":0.945},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:39:33.167000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:39:37.412000+08:00","text":"財政部能不能在一個月內提供一份研擬報告關於VASP產業的租稅優惠？","quality":0.844},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-28T11:39:39.643000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:39:52.348000+08:00","text":"在虛擬資產服務法裡面有VASP這個部分，關於它的型態等，我們都已經跟金管會深入了解，目前的租稅制度還是以現有的租稅優惠都可以用。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:39:53.189000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:39:54.489000+08:00","text":"我們剛剛提到的可以嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-28T11:39:54.489000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:02.840000+08:00","text":"但是如果要另外增加的話，可能要提出一些具體的需求，或者是要做稅式支出評估，都必須要進一步的研議。","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:03.120000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:07.906000+08:00","text":"部長可不可以跟產業討論一下，一個月內提供一份研擬報告給國人參考？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:08.286000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:12.471000+08:00","text":"我想這個部分我們可以配合金管會的推動來做一些相關的研議。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:12.772000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:14.093000+08:00","text":"主委，OK嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:14.093000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:15.595000+08:00","text":"我們會跟財政部研議相關的……","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:15.695000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:17.978000+08:00","text":"不好意思，院長，你指示吧！","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:19.259000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:27.762000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，我們過去在產業創新的產創條例當中，對很多新創的產業都有租稅優惠，甚至投資抵減，這個理念是一樣的。","quality":0.896},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:28.422000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:34.265000+08:00","text":"如果是這樣的話，針對VASP的產業，我們是不是請財政部主導來研議，可以嗎？院長。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:34.805000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:36.565000+08:00","text":"這個部分我們可以跟金管會一起協同……好。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:37.546000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:40.047000+08:00","text":"對，因為虛擬資產整個主管的法規是在金管會。","quality":0.789},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:40.687000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:43.948000+08:00","text":"院長，我們需要一個leader，您可不可以直接在這裡說請財政部來主導租稅的優惠？","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:46.269000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:47.750000+08:00","text":"他們兩位的配合一直很有效率。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:47.870000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:49.111000+08:00","text":"好，那就院長來負責了，好不好？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:49.211000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:49.771000+08:00","text":"一直很有效率。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:49.951000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:50.351000+08:00","text":"好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:50.491000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:53.153000+08:00","text":"好，一個月內研擬，可以嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:53.153000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:40:55.214000+08:00","text":"把這個方向勾畫出來，沒有問題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:40:55.214000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:41:04.079000+08:00","text":"一個月，我想全國民眾都在看，產業也在看，川普可能也在看，院長，可不可以答應一個月內研擬一下，好嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:41:04.079000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:41:05.340000+08:00","text":"對，我們一個月內會把這個大方向……","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:41:05.340000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:41:06.340000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:41:05.860000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:41:07.141000+08:00","text":"修法的部分也要同步進行。","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:41:08.361000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:41:11.563000+08:00","text":"當然、當然，提供研擬，我們也很尊重行政單位，好不好？好。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:41:11.983000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:41:28.571000+08:00","text":"另外，關於購買比特幣的ETF，本席在兩年前質詢的時候，要求金管會不應該禁止國人用複委託來購買境外的比特幣ETF，這是金融自由的一部分，我們很高興金管會從善如流，主委勇於任事，在當年9月份就開放。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:41:29.671000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:41:47.735000+08:00","text":"這幾年國際趨勢猛進的跟上，美國、加拿大、香港等主要金融市場都已經陸續批准比特幣現貨ETF，它變成一種標準化、受監管的投資工具；反觀我國的規範，到現在2026年還是只能複委託，而且對投資人有嚴格的限制。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:41:48.576000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:41:57.299000+08:00","text":"在這樣的情況之下，可能會造成一般投資人的風險增加、本土資金的外流、本地金融又錯失發展的機會。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:41:57.299000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:42:19.978000+08:00","text":"院長，我要在這裡跟您報告，全球最大資產管理公司貝萊德旗下的比特幣ETF，上市首年橫掃過去十年所有新發行的ETF紀錄，341天超越黃金ETF的紀錄，甚至成長比黃金快上五倍，尤其我們國人這麼愛買ETF，金管會如果限制太多，可能民眾風險反而增加。","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:42:20.718000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:42:35.003000+08:00","text":"請問院長，本席上週有看到金管會表示近期會評估，再進一步開放一般人來做複委託的購買，有沒有具體的時程，以及未來開放我國境內發行比特幣ETF有沒有評估跟時程？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:42:35.943000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:42:36.504000+08:00","text":"彭主委請。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:42:36.904000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:42:46.492000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，兩個問題，第一個，我們對境外複委託交易的部分，確實前年年底我們開放了專業投資人可以透過這樣……是。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:42:46.572000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:09.981000+08:00","text":"也看到我們上次有答應大院是每半年檢討一次，第一次的檢討，半年過後我們發覺這個現在還沒有成熟，所以我們是保留，接下來半年後，那個報告他們最近也送過來，我們也看到過去開放這一年多，大概成交量是比較低，只有12億左右，只占整個複委託可能是0.06%，還在非常開始的階段。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:10.781000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:18.104000+08:00","text":"我們剛剛收到他們的分析報告，我們現在正在看，因為半年我們就會再重新評估，所以我們很快就會把這個評估的……","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:18.364000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:18.524000+08:00","text":"開放時間？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:18.524000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:21.587000+08:00","text":"不好意思，主委，給我們一個具體的時間。","quality":1},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:21.587000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:32.215000+08:00","text":"就是他今天送過來，我們答應半年評估一次，另外一個半年到我們就會評估，評估如果覺得可以開放更大的範圍的話，我想最近大概就會對外說明我們的評估結果。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:32.495000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:32.895000+08:00","text":"好，最近。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:33.476000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:40.842000+08:00","text":"不過我們還有提到境內發行的比特幣現貨ETF，我想這個部分金管會可不可以在一個月內給本席一份報告？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:41.502000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:45.725000+08:00","text":"因為境內的部分我們會按照VASP專法的進度範圍來做。","quality":0.68},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:46.505000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:47.166000+08:00","text":"三個月，好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:47.286000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:48.527000+08:00","text":"三個月，可以嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:48.527000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:50.008000+08:00","text":"那個研究報告沒問題，可以提供給委員。","quality":0.688},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:50.188000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:51.388000+08:00","text":"三個月，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:52.469000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:43:53.210000+08:00","text":"財政部部長可以請回。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:43:53.630000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:44:20.528000+08:00","text":"我這邊接下來要討論股票代幣化的事情，那斯達克在上個月獲SEC的允許，特定股票得以代幣化的形式來交易結算，紐交所也在這個月18號向SEC送件，未來365天、24小時蘋果的股票、NVIDIA的股票，甚至TSMC的ADR都有可能在區塊鏈上面交易，而且是不停歇的，這其實就是RWA的一種形式。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:44:20.928000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:44:28.896000+08:00","text":"金管會的RWA代幣化小組其實在去年已經完成驗證技術的可行性，想請問一下主委，後續規劃怎麼樣？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:44:28.896000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:44:30.377000+08:00","text":"股票代幣化什麼時候開放？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:44:31.398000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:44:39.106000+08:00","text":"跟院長報告，這個東西一開放，會造成磁吸的效應，資金可能會挪移，我們很可能會喪失所謂的定價權這件事情。","quality":0.978},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:44:41.348000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:44:46.573000+08:00","text":"因為時間不多，所以主委能不能跟我們提一下什麼時候開放，有沒有預計的時間？","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:44:46.573000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:45:07.266000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，主要是這樣，我們現在有兩個軌道，一個是虛擬資產交易VASP專法這一塊，至於RWA的部分，臺灣的法制架構是因為我們有證交法，假設它今天的交易是同一個標的、同一個管理的話，且假設我們的RWA是有價證券的話，我們會適用證交法的規定來處理嘛。是。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:45:07.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:45:13.207000+08:00","text":"另外，RWA的範圍非常地多，像剛才講的，有些是非有價證券，那是另外一個。對。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:45:13.207000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:45:30.732000+08:00","text":"所以我們現在正在研究，我們已經開始在做一些未來交易平臺的建構，還有就是我們第一波會上RWA的這個商品是什麼，我們已經開始找集保，還有我們的F4、相關單位討論，已經開過很多次會，我們最近會定調這個部分。","quality":0.945},{"speaker":"彭主任委員金隆","start":"2026-04-28T11:45:30.852000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:45:39.334000+08:00","text":"因為在時間時序還有基礎的建設要做，我想可能沒有那麼快，短期可能沒辦法上線。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:45:39.334000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:45:45.876000+08:00","text":"好，沒關係，主委，會後能不能有人到我們辦公室來一起討論，一起來加進這方面的努力好嗎？好。","quality":0.868},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:45:46.776000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:46:18.783000+08:00","text":"最後剩一點時間，麻煩有請央行楊總裁，在楊總裁到來之前，我想交付一份比特幣報告──Geopolitical, Economic, and Trade Benefits of Establishing a Bitcoin Reserve for Taiwan，美國參議員的幕僚機構幫臺灣所做的一份報告，我想交給院長，院長可不可以到前面，我交付給你？好。","quality":0.604},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:46:19.424000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:46:20.825000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝院長。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:46:20.825000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:46:21.825000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:46:20.825000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:46:23.107000+08:00","text":"為什麼我們一直在提戰略儲備？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:46:23.107000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:46:32.355000+08:00","text":"因為這是我們金融韌性的一部分，這份報告認為臺灣適合將一定程度、一定量的比特幣作為儲備的資產，因為這是金融韌性的一部分。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:46:32.835000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:46:49.406000+08:00","text":"我們也可以看到，現在連美國印太司令都已經公開表達比特幣是國家級安全資產的潛力，未來如果再發生像伊朗宣布荷姆茲海峽的通行費，限用比特幣、穩定幣或人民幣付款的時候，我們才有能力因應嘛。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:46:49.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:46:59.951000+08:00","text":"然而我們目前的國家儲備，沒有比特幣，也沒有穩定幣，只有人民幣，如果未來發生相關的情況，難道院長想要付人民幣來通行海峽嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:47:03.873000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:47:06.154000+08:00","text":"時空環境會改變，改變的時候就會調整。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:47:06.934000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:47:10.076000+08:00","text":"但是我們該變的時候就要趕快大力地變。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:47:10.076000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:47:34.576000+08:00","text":"現在院長在這裡，請教一下院長，央行有比特幣戰略儲備的報告，我們現在看到穩定幣也可能是一種方法，風險可能更低，我們的RWA小組都研議了很多，能不能請院長下指令研議一下，如果政府先從非常小一部分的外匯存底，換成穩定幣或者代幣化的債券？","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:47:35.037000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:47:58.162000+08:00","text":"因為在極端狀況發生的時候，這些黃金、這些美元、這些美債，不一定好更換或者交易，所以就這一點，RWA這種區塊鏈上的數位代幣，就會是我們非常重大的金融韌性的一部分，能不能請央行或者是責成相關的部會來研議？","quality":0.934},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:47:58.162000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:47:59.764000+08:00","text":"院長，能不能答應研議一下？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:48:00.245000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:48:03.649000+08:00","text":"能不能在一個月內提出一份穩定幣或數位貨幣的國家儲備報告？","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:48:05.485000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:48:10.947000+08:00","text":"現在的資料顯示上，沒有其他國家把比特幣列為外匯的存底，是不是？","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:48:11.147000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:48:18.569000+08:00","text":"不好意思，您可能沒有看央行的報告，現在捷克已經開始這樣做，還有越來越多的國家在研議。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:48:18.569000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:48:27.052000+08:00","text":"但是臺灣的做法比較穩定的是，我們希望能朝向發行穩定幣的方式，先進入到虛擬貨幣的世界裡面。","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-04-28T11:48:27.732000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:48:31.713000+08:00","text":"好，我想未來的金融我們一起努力，跟2,300萬的同胞一起努力，好嗎？謝謝。","quality":0.821},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-04-28T11:48:31.713000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:48:31.933000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-28T11:48:31.933000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:48:38.103000+08:00","text":"謝謝葛委員，謝謝卓院長。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-28T11:48:38.103000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-28T11:48:47.073000+08:00","text":"下一位王正旭委員之質詢以書面提出，請行政院書面答復，並列入紀錄，刊登公報。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"委員王正旭書面質詢","start":"2026-04-28T11:48:47.573000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:49:29.001571+08:00","text":"本院王委員正旭，針對我國現行依據「護理人員法」設立之一般護理之家，能否比照財團法人以自有房地興辦長期照顧服務機構得申請免徵房屋稅及地價稅之制度，請財政部會商衛生福利部，研議將符合相關要件之一般護理之家，亦納入免徵房屋稅及地價稅之範圍，以因應強化我國面對超高齡社會下所需之長照及醫療服務量能，特向行政院提出質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員王正旭書面質詢","start":"2026-04-28T11:49:29.301571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:49:37.873000+08:00","text":"一、我國65歲以上高齡人口已占總人口數超過20%，已經正式邁入超高齡社會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員王正旭書面質詢","start":"2026-04-28T11:49:38.173000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:50:14.744429+08:00","text":"依據內政部統計，我國人口在2025年12月為2,329萬9,132人，同時65歲以上人口達467萬3,155人，占整體總人口數之20.06%，已正式邁入超高齡社會，且因我國人口正同時面臨少子女化衝擊，短期內65歲以上人口占總人口比，只會持續增加，同時也顯示，我國對於長期照顧服務之需求會隨之快速增加，需要政府持續投入資源並研議配套政策。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員王正旭書面質詢","start":"2026-04-28T11:50:15.044429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:50:33.330143+08:00","text":"二、查我國現行依據「長期照顧服務法」設立之長照機構，得依據財政部「長期照顧服務機構使用房地免徵房屋稅及地價稅認定原則」，申請免徵房屋稅及地價稅。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員王正旭書面質詢","start":"2026-04-28T11:50:33.630143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:51:23.915857+08:00","text":"然而，其免稅法源則為「房屋稅條例」第十五條第一項第二款「業經立案之私立慈善救濟事業，不以營利為目的，完成財團法人登記者，其直接供辦理事業所使用之自有房屋」得免徵房屋稅；以及「土地稅減免規則」第八條第一項第五款「經事業主管機關核准設立之私立醫院、捐血機構、社會救濟慈善及其他為促進公眾利益，不以營利為目的，且不以同業、同鄉、同學、宗親成員或其他特定之人等為主要受益對象之事業，其本身事業用地，全免。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員王正旭書面質詢","start":"2026-04-28T11:51:24.215857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:51:46.787286+08:00","text":"但為促進公眾利益之事業，經由當地主管稽徵機關報經直轄市、縣（市）主管機關核准免徵者外，其餘應以辦妥財團法人登記，或係辦妥登記之財團法人所興辦，且其用地為該財團法人所有者為限」。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員王正旭書面質詢","start":"2026-04-28T11:51:47.087286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:52:21.658714+08:00","text":"三、綜觀前述免稅要件，若依據「護理人員法」設立之一般護理之家，能符合不以營利為目的、完成財團法人登記、自有自用等要件，其是否也應該能納入法規所謂「立案之私立慈善救濟事業」及「經事業主管機關核准設立之私立、社會救濟慈善及其他為促進公眾利益之事業」之事業範圍，應有研議之空間。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員王正旭書面質詢","start":"2026-04-28T11:52:21.958714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:52:50.530143+08:00","text":"四、此外，在照顧服務強度上，一般護理之家所提供之醫療及照顧服務，因為其所收治之對象之醫療依賴度往往較高，其實際上提供之醫療及照顧服務，並不低於長期照護服務機構，就其社會慈善救濟或社會公益性質而言，均不低於長照服務機構。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員王正旭書面質詢","start":"2026-04-28T11:52:50.830143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:53:12.258714+08:00","text":"五、綜上所述，建請財政部會商衛生福利部，研議將符合相關要件之一般護理之家，亦納入免徵房屋稅及地價稅之範圍，以因應強化我國面對超高齡社會下所需之長照及醫療服務量能。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-28T11:53:12.558714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:53:16.844429+08:00","text":"報告院會，財政組之質詢已詢答完畢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-28T11:53:17.144429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:53:26.573000+08:00","text":"上午會議進行到此為止，下午2點30分繼續開會，進行教育及文化組之質詢，現在休息。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-28T11:53:26.873000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-28T11:53:28.015857+08:00","text":"休息（11時48分）","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}