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謝謝委員謝謝林市民委員"},{"start":704.163,"end":704.725,"text":"在顏光文委員質詢之前本席宣告第十位質詢"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:33:06+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:33:07+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:33:07+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:33:08+08:00","text":"有請部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T10:33:08+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:33:09+08:00","text":"請財政部莊部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:33:09+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:33:10+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:33:09.848000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:33:10.208000+08:00","text":"部長早。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:33:11.609000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:33:48.048000+08:00","text":"部長，最近公股行庫內部稽核管理真的是弊端層出，先是彰化商銀北投分行王姓男職員私自預蓋客戶的印鑑，分次挪用帳戶內近30萬元的存款，又有兆豐金融票券某分公司的協理性侵女性部屬，而一直到該名狼協理被列為升遷名單中，才被內部人檢舉，整件事情才爆發出來了。","quality":0.876},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:33:48.568000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:34:05.857000+08:00","text":"我想我們政府一直在宣傳防詐、一直在宣傳要推廣性平，但結果銀行內部或者是票券公司才真的成為一個犯罪的溫床。","quality":0.98},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:34:07.778000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:34:20.386000+08:00","text":"我想請問這兩個案件，除了已經移送檢調方面來偵查、起訴以外，身為主管機關，尤其是國庫署，有對涉案者做出任何額外的懲處嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:34:23.379000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:34:39.263000+08:00","text":"這個部分不會是國庫署，第一個，各銀行的負責人或金控的負責人必須要去做嚴正的處理，查到有這樣的行為，基本上都是嚴格的處分，甚至是把他解職，這是一個。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:34:39.463000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:34:53.018000+08:00","text":"第二個，我們對於公股行庫的負責人，如果公司內部一些管理的不妥，我們在考核裡面對這個部分的扣分，是加成提高的，也就是請各公股行庫負責人必須強化內部管理。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:34:57.570000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:34:59.572000+08:00","text":"所以針對這兩個案子……","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:34:59.572000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:35:00.572000+08:00","text":"行為人一定是嚴處。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:34:59.613000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:35:04.118000+08:00","text":"當然這是原則性的問題，剛才部長提的都是原則性的問題……是。","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:35:04.118000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:35:15.111000+08:00","text":"但是我想針對這兩個個案，你們整個內部的管控、稽核流程，以及職員的性別、道德訓練，到底是出了哪些問題，有沒有做出事後的檢討？","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:35:16.032000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:35:42.151000+08:00","text":"尤其是兆豐票券的這個案子，職場性別暴力，這變成是一個結構性問題，受害者為了工作選擇噤聲，而是到加害人在體制的掩護之下升官發財後，內部才有人檢舉，所以你們有沒有調查其他相關的高階主管機關有沒有護航、要不要負責，讓這一位性侵的主管還能夠升官？","quality":0.936},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:35:54.039000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:35:54.860000+08:00","text":"你們有沒有進行調查？","quality":0.556},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:35:55.661000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:35:56.602000+08:00","text":"針對這個案子，有沒有進行調查？","quality":0.692},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:35:57.422000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:36:05.189000+08:00","text":"這個案子是有做調查，然後兆豐的部分，我們要求申訴機制一定要透明跟暢通。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:36:05.289000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:36:05.329000+08:00","text":"好，有做調查……","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:36:05.329000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:36:06.329000+08:00","text":"有做調查，也做了處理。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:36:05.469000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:36:06.130000+08:00","text":"懲處結果出來了沒有？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:36:10.333000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:36:12.074000+08:00","text":"懲處結果應該出來了，這已經有一段時間了，是去年……","quality":0.619},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:36:12.975000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:36:13.855000+08:00","text":"有一定的時間嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:36:15.476000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:36:19.698000+08:00","text":"我們是不是把懲處的相關報告跟改善情形提供給委員，好嗎？","quality":0.84},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:36:19.918000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:36:26.561000+08:00","text":"好，改善的相關計畫，兩個禮拜內提供給本席，可以嗎？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:36:26.561000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:36:26.982000+08:00","text":"可以、可以。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:36:29.303000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:36:32.504000+08:00","text":"部長，接下來我要請問有關統一發票獎金追回的議題。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:36:34.957000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:36:56.416000+08:00","text":"之前有民眾透過手機條碼蒐集超過1,500張的小額雲端發票，並兌領其中10張中獎發票，但因不符一般消費習慣方式，刻意取得大量發票提高中獎率，被國稅局認定不符給獎規定，最後相關獎金被依統一發票給獎辦法第十五條規定追回。","quality":0.884},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:36:59.859000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:37:15.687000+08:00","text":"關於統一發票中獎查核機制的透明及查核的合理性，因為相關法條規定「不予公開」，就是不透明，請問是不是有檢討改進的必要？","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:37:18.808000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:38:15.790000+08:00","text":"部長，我們先看一下數據，根據財政部114年度派查異常的案件總共有2,030件，實際認定需追回獎金的案件為592件，占比約29%，而其中小額發票異常的僅有131件，占追回案件的22.13%，金額更只有64萬元，占整體追回金額229萬元的27.9%，換句話說，政府投入時間成本及查核資源，最後追回的金額規模卻是非常有限，目前是採事後查核再進行追回，程序上曠日廢時，甚至有時候還要進入訴願流程，形同高成本、低效率的情況。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:38:16.851000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:38:40.992000+08:00","text":"部長，現在的制度是先給獎再追回，導致行政機關要動用大量人力進行事後查核，但追回的金額僅僅數百萬元，官方的說法是為了符合公益性，但是以預算執行的角度而言，是否已經出現成本高於效益的情況？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:38:43.245000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:38:46.006000+08:00","text":"你們花了大量的成本、人力去查……","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:38:46.786000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:38:49.667000+08:00","text":"實務執行部分，是不是可以請署長跟委員報告？好。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"宋署長秀玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:38:51.348000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:39:12.036000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，首先委員提到可不可以在事先開獎的時候就防範，因為我們開獎要即時，而且要普遍開，所以原則上沒有辦法先過濾再開獎，而且它可能是同一個獎號的其中某一些人利用這種方式處理，所以目前在實務上做不到，這是第一個。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"宋署長秀玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:39:12.756000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:39:34.751000+08:00","text":"第二個，剛才委員特別關切這樣的追回機制到底符不符合成本效益的問題，我想這主要是因為影響到消費者的中獎權益，如果不該中獎者把獎金拿走了，那麼其他應該要中獎的人不就減少機會，所以我們是要維護一個公平性。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:39:35.291000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:39:56.105000+08:00","text":"對，為了公益性、公平性，你們的想法很正確，但我現在的問題點在於，依照統一發票給獎辦法第十五條第三項規定，目前對這種不合常規交易、蒐集大量小額發票的認定基準是「不予公開」，但因為你們不公開，會造成什麼問題？","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:39:56.105000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:40:10.919000+08:00","text":"就是人民不知道什麼樣的行為會被認定是違規，等於是由國稅局單方面認定、判定是不是要追回獎金，我想這不符合法治國原理。","quality":0.887},{"speaker":"宋署長秀玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:40:14.585000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:40:27.832000+08:00","text":"我想這個認定原則一旦公開，那些有心人士就會想辦法規避，譬如假設我說什麼樣的狀況拿多少張發票，就會變成是異常，那麼他就會故意控制在那個張數以內，所以跟委員報告，這個……","quality":0.813},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:40:27.932000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:40:46.982000+08:00","text":"署長，我舉幾個例子，例如有民眾集資團購，由其中一個人負責購買，因此每一筆消費他都要拿發票，因為要提供給其他委託的人，所以他必須取得發票。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:40:48.143000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:41:14.420000+08:00","text":"第二種，或者他為了累積超商的店數，分別到不同超商購買小額商品，然後取得發票；又或者他為了累積電子支付或信用卡的紅利點數，所以小額購買各樣的商品，像這種情況，你們認為是不符合常規的交易嗎？","quality":0.965},{"speaker":"宋署長秀玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:41:14.420000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:41:15.420000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:41:14.820000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:41:26.051000+08:00","text":"其實情形非常多，如果你們不透明的話，會造成民眾無所適從，到底什麼樣的行為叫做大量蒐集發票？","quality":0.854},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:41:26.591000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:41:29.314000+08:00","text":"對於我剛才講的那種情形，你的看法呢？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"宋署長秀玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:41:32.297000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:42:02.738000+08:00","text":"國稅局在追回這些是不是異常小額發票時，為什麼剛才委員會發現追回的比例感覺好像不符成本效益，就是因為國稅局有給他們補充說明的機會，簡單講，如果這個中獎人有解釋為什麼他會拿到這些小額發票，像上一期有一個2塊錢的發票中了1,000萬，他是到某一個速食店消費，如果不是那種連續的行為，這個1,000萬我們照給。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:42:02.938000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:42:32.311000+08:00","text":"署長，我的意思是，因為這有點類似例示的規定，所以某些部分你要有條件公開，而不是全部不公開，你都不公開，民眾真的會不曉得到底怎麼樣的消費行為、怎麼樣取得的發票到最後中獎時會被追回，他們會一頭霧水，所以是不是檢討應該要適度予以公開？","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"宋署長秀玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:42:32.611000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:42:40.817000+08:00","text":"我知道現在國稅局如果有追回這樣的中獎金狀況，都會發新聞稿，說明是什麼狀況……","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:42:40.817000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:42:41.817000+08:00","text":"會發新聞稿？","quality":0},{"speaker":"宋署長秀玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:42:41.417000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:42:47.818000+08:00","text":"對，是不是可以透過這樣的方式，讓各地區國稅局在追回案件的時候，告訴民眾不要取巧。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:42:47.999000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:43:05.145000+08:00","text":"署長，如果會發新聞稿，這點我就贊同，我認為應該要適度公開，才不會形成我剛才講的情形，增加那麼多行政成本去查核，但是追回來的只有一點點錢，不符合效益啦！","quality":0.776},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:05.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:43:08.427000+08:00","text":"所以適度公開是有其必要性。是。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:09.248000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:43:30.425000+08:00","text":"好，最後一個問題，最近金融業主張應全面檢視、建立更具合理性的證交稅率，並將其制度化，以提升證券市場的競爭力，讓我們邁向亞洲資產管理中心的地位，因此提出四大稅改建議。","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:30.425000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:43:32.748000+08:00","text":"部長，對於這四大稅改建議，你的看法如何？","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:33.669000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:43:37.914000+08:00","text":"尤其對於是否調降證交稅，你的看法怎樣？","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:42.132000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:01.098000+08:00","text":"就證交稅來說，其實現在股票市場相當熱絡，然後還有當沖降稅減半，這個雖然實施期間到明年才會結束，但大家都認為有可能要再做檢討，至於提供各項減稅的部分，我覺得必須再深入研議。","quality":0.705},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:02.839000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:22.894000+08:00","text":"對於業者所提出的這四大建議，部長的看法是認為手續費是由券商收取，應該先予以調降，證交稅可能還要再檢討，所以你認為的重點就是，證交稅部分，目前股市交易熱絡，而且明年又要到期……","quality":0.859},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:25.810000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:27.090000+08:00","text":"當沖降稅的部分，明年底到期。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:27.150000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:28.071000+08:00","text":"所以你是否會比較各國的相關稅率，再來做相關的檢討、改進？","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:28.071000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:30.852000+08:00","text":"林委員，我建議一下，因為你這個題目蠻大的，而且時間已經到了一段時間了，是不是讓財政部用書面回答，好不好？","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"林委員思銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:30.852000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:31.852000+08:00","text":"好，用書面回答。","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:30.912000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:31.252000+08:00","text":"是，我們用書面回復，謝謝委員。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:31.252000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:31.653000+08:00","text":"謝謝林思銘委員。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:31.653000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:50.524000+08:00","text":"第10位質詢的吳秉叡委員質詢完之後，休息5分鐘。","quality":0.263},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:50.524000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:50.725000+08:00","text":"現在換第9位顏寬恒委員質詢。","quality":0.333}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}