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都支持我只問新北為什麼沒有"},{"start":222.043,"end":243.306,"text":"跟委員報告我新北海岸線這麼長超過120公里我們的海洋資源這麼多我的漁港有28座這麼好的資源為什麼沒有跟委員報告因為資源很有限很競爭所以呢由下而上地方政府報上來的時候有一些呢報上來可能都還會失望因為我們的資源那我問你新北有沒有報告新北應該是沒有提"},{"start":243.766,"end":255.127,"text":"新北沒有提嗎已經連續幾次了嘛從過去沒有提到這批的申請當中新北也沒有提出申請那你的申請規則有限制嗎一定要地方政府做為主體嗎"},{"start":256.827,"end":275.482,"text":"也可以是大專院校那如果地方政府沒有作為的話那你的這個中央主管機關沒有任何的方式嗎事實上我看到你的設置標準裡面也有第一項是中央主管機關可以考慮嗎其實我們也有積極的在通知、邀請"},{"start":276.983,"end":295.236,"text":"那基本上就是因為很競爭我沒辦法說好啊你都沒有我就直接給你那基本上選址也需要地方政府他們來提供所以他的那個地方政府的角色是最重要的主要還是在選址那主要也是在競爭"},{"start":296.517,"end":323.844,"text":"那新北的話我想我們再加強吧過去我們我想是這樣啦這個對新北海洋的特色和資源我想我在這裡應該是可以算是數一數二的應該沒有在場沒有人不有更了解新北到底有多少的海洋資源有多少的觀光景點可以運用又有多少的人口應該要能夠去接近海岸線所以一個沒有積極"},{"start":325.465,"end":348.886,"text":"沒有積極爭取資源的地方政府的話其實是可惜的啦那我是認為現在我是立法委員所以我能夠督促的是中央機關我會督促海委會是不是能夠再跟地方政府溝通因為畢竟我們台灣的海岸線就是這麼長而新北站的比例就是這麼高所以身為新北市的立法委員我督促海委會是不是能夠讓"},{"start":349.767,"end":373.292,"text":"擁有海岸線相當長的縣市也要能夠更積極一點來提出這樣的申請案因為我同意你是要主動申請因為是稀缺資源嘛競爭型計劃嘛對不對我去年呢我就把各縣市他們的申請跟我們最後的補助有做了一個縣市別的統計我再給委員看確實有一些縣市他們在海洋的這一塊是比較沒有琢磨"},{"start":374.392,"end":392.938,"text":"那很可惜 因為海岸性也非常嚴重沒關係 別人不陪我們來做那我們繼續前進但是我還是希望海委會在對這個地方政府之間的關係可以多發揮一點主動性這是我現在對您的要求我們再進一步好嗎 委員督促我們就積極的再去同時也可以把資料再一份到我們的辦公室"},{"start":393.578,"end":406.032,"text":"那最後呢30秒的時間我想跟你追蹤一個上一次上個會期我跟您這邊討論過的一個部分就是其實現在正是因為我們要利用海洋資源嘛所以海域利用的淨河這是一個大問題從漁業到觀光"},{"start":408.735,"end":432.154,"text":"到這個人本身的這樣修製因為觀光有分船舶跟人的部分嘛所以上次在問您說在海洋當中不同使用者之間的衝突會不會有一套規範那你贊成有規範的同時呢那也認為我們現在就是會往制定規範的方向去實施而且甚至呢現在新北市也已經在進行小規模的試驗驗證所以能不能要簡單跟我們說明一下進度然後未來的發展"},{"start":435.416,"end":450.346,"text":"跟委員報告我們已經有制度而且在這個制度裡面我們還會提供資源來跟在地的漁會等等合作讓他們共同來投入介護的工作就是相關的協調的作業等等還有會這邊像委員關心的龍東灣或者是過去"},{"start":456.91,"end":464.775,"text":"曾經發生過的一些潛水跟漁業之間競合的問題我們個案的部分都已經完成了協調是 那民間團體會跟我們合作好 所以我看到第一個案的部分我們將來會做 我們甚至會出錢來替他們做這個扶求式的範圍的界限會做出來"},{"start":479.304,"end":507.495,"text":"那您的進度就可以有一份報告到我們這邊來好了我覺得上一次就很關心我們都有進度對 因為個案部分爭議解決 協調完成然後現在也訂立了相關的準則包括像潛水活動與遊艇動力小船人車避碰規定的指引其實都已經完成但我還是認為應該要有法治化而且我再次的強調漁會 協會跟民眾這些第一線會受到實際參與影響的人都應該要被一起加入討論我們喊他當夥伴是謝謝 謝謝委員"},{"start":511.669,"end":512.234,"text":"好 謝謝蘇巧慧委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:28:35.473000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:28:35.999000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，我們請管主委。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:28:35.999000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T09:28:40.827000+08:00","text":"蘇委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:28:40.827000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T09:28:45.655000+08:00","text":"主委好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:28:45.655000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:28:50.036000+08:00","text":"我們今天除了質詢，還要討論今年我們海委會的預算。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:28:51.937000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:28:55.978000+08:00","text":"在海巡署的部分，其實我在第21案的部分有做了一個提案。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:28:57.138000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:29:15.965000+08:00","text":"我在這裡要直接公開再次說明，其實我對海巡同仁的部分真真正正……尤其我們新北的海岸線這麼長，可以看到這麼多的海巡同仁就是在這個崗位上努力，所以海巡署我們真的全力支持，應該是要人給人、要錢給錢，就是這個態度。","quality":0.989},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:29:15.965000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T09:29:18.886000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，謝謝，委員也都到第一線去慰勉，很感謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:29:18.886000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:29:20.186000+08:00","text":"對，但是我們為什麼還是有提案呢？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:29:20.526000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:29:45.654000+08:00","text":"我們的提案其實是希望在海巡署113年到116年的整體發展計畫當中，碼頭這部分的進度，就是海巡署的艦艇泊位缺口的部分，到底建置的進度如何，希望提出一個進度的報告，所以小凍10萬元，希望提出書面報告以後就可以再繼續執行。","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:29:46.194000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:29:51.575000+08:00","text":"也很高興海巡署已經同意這樣子的作法，所以我們非常期待這個進度報告，這樣可以喔？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:29:52.015000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:29:57.037000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員監督我們這件事，這件事也真的非常的重要，我們一定全力努力朝前瞻部署。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:29:58.757000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:30:01.399000+08:00","text":"對，艦艇的泊位其實是非常、非常重要的一件事情。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:30:01.559000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:30:17.930000+08:00","text":"對，我們目前也得到一些地方政府協助，還有港務公司、國防部以及經濟部的協助，所以基本上我們樂觀，以目前的這一些溝通協調而言，我們是樂觀的。","quality":0.934},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:30:18.170000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:30:26.195000+08:00","text":"好，沒有問題，因為我們特別就是從……現在我們也會從地方政府的角度來看待這件事情，就是應該要加速進行、極度的配合……","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:30:26.396000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:30:26.916000+08:00","text":"有些碼頭是地方的產權。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:30:28.697000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:30:29.198000+08:00","text":"再來，我是不好意思說將來我一定會積極配合啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:30:29.218000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:30:29.238000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:30:35.539000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:30:47.945000+08:00","text":"但是主委又接話，我在這裡就先預告，如果我有這個機會的話，我一定全力配合海巡署，真的就是要人給人、要錢給錢，一定全力支援海巡艦隊。","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:30:47.945000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T09:30:48.945000+08:00","text":"謝謝、謝謝，謝謝委員，非常感謝，我們很期待。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:30:47.945000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:30:53.288000+08:00","text":"好，但是另外一個我還是要繼續為新北市爭取。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:30:54.108000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:31:15.535000+08:00","text":"我想現在海保中心應該也是海委會滿重要的一個亮點設施，目前的海保中心是在臺南、澎湖、臺中、新竹，有4處，可不可以簡單的跟我們說明一下海保中心的目標、已經達成的效果、為什麼你們覺得做得好，所以現在又要再持續增加？","quality":0.989},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:31:16.715000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:31:17.116000+08:00","text":"簡單就好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:31:18.516000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:31:23.117000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們署長很少有表現的機會，我們讓署長來做非常到位的說明。","quality":0.613},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:31:23.757000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:31:25.938000+08:00","text":"好，但就是要快一點，因為我們的時間有限。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陸署長曉筠","start":"2026-04-29T09:31:26.947000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:31:37.032000+08:00","text":"跟委員說明，我們希望擴大保育的效果，這4處目前都是不同的類型，比如說，白海豚的泥灘地，或者是不同類型所謂的空間。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陸署長曉筠","start":"2026-04-29T09:31:37.372000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:31:45.977000+08:00","text":"我們希望結合地方政府、結合不同的學校或者是大專院校，讓這個海洋保育教育中心可以更走入不同的階層跟不同的民眾。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:31:46.617000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:31:48.118000+08:00","text":"其實它就是海洋……","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:31:48.578000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:31:49.519000+08:00","text":"在地的特色很重要。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:31:50.279000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:31:51.840000+08:00","text":"對，所以每個地方都有特色。是。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:31:52.901000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:08.351000+08:00","text":"每一個地方其實就是大眾跟海洋知識之間、海洋科普之間做一個連結的中心，所以它會儘量讓自己的專業知識可以科普化，讓更多的人願意走進來，所以這等於是一個海洋世界的入口，很棒嘛，對不對？","quality":0.89},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:08.872000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:09.092000+08:00","text":"我們希望它有趣。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧：好，非常好，我覺得都棒、都支持，我只問","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:10.393000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:10.673000+08:00","text":"新北為什麼沒有？","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:16.043000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:17.064000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告……","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:17.425000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:24.072000+08:00","text":"我新北海岸線這麼長，超過120公里，我們的海洋資源這麼多，我的漁港有28座，這麼好的資源，為什麼沒有？","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:24.472000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:34.463000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，因為資源很有限、很競爭，所以由下而上，地方政府報上來的時候，有一些報上來可能都還會失望，因為我們的資源有限。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:34.643000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:35.704000+08:00","text":"那我問你，新北有沒有報？","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:35.884000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:37.286000+08:00","text":"新北應該是沒有提。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:37.766000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:38.327000+08:00","text":"新北沒有提嘛。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:38.327000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:39.429000+08:00","text":"新北在海洋這一塊確實……","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:39.429000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:45.901000+08:00","text":"已經連續幾次了，從過去沒有提到這一批的申請當中，新北也沒有提出申請。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:45.901000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:46.901000+08:00","text":"有關的獎補助……","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:46.022000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:47.845000+08:00","text":"你的申請規則有限制嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:47.845000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:49.127000+08:00","text":"一定要地方政府作為主體嗎？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:50.827000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:53.409000+08:00","text":"沒有，也可以是大專院校。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:53.409000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T09:32:54.409000+08:00","text":"也可以是大專院校？是。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:32:54.089000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:33:00.495000+08:00","text":"如果地方政府沒有作為的話，那中央主管機關沒有任何的方式嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:33:00.495000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T09:33:01.495000+08:00","text":"我們有一些……","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:33:00.495000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:33:05.419000+08:00","text":"事實上，我看到你的設置標準裡面也有第一項是中央主管機關可以考慮嘛。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:33:05.419000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:33:17.067000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，其實我們也有積極通知、邀請，就是因為很競爭，我沒辦法說好啊，你都沒有，我就直接給你。","quality":0.878},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:33:18.328000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:33:29.236000+08:00","text":"基本上，選址也需要地方政府來提供，所以地方政府的角色是最重要的，主要還是在選址，主要也是在競爭。","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:33:30.897000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:33:37.179000+08:00","text":"新北的話，我想我們再加強，把過去我們……","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:33:37.179000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:34:03.468000+08:00","text":"主委，我想是這樣啦，對新北海洋的特色和資源，我想我在這裡應該可以算是數一數二的，在場應該沒有人比我更了解新北到底有多少的海洋資源、有多少的觀光景點可以運用，又有多少的人口應該要能夠去接近海岸線，所以一個沒有積極爭取資源的地方政府，其實是可惜的啦！","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:34:03.468000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T09:34:04.649000+08:00","text":"是滿可惜的。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:34:04.649000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:34:12.617000+08:00","text":"我是認為現在我是立法委員，所以我能夠督促的是中央機關，我會督促海委會是不是能夠再跟地方政府溝通？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:34:14.158000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:34:30.228000+08:00","text":"畢竟我們臺灣的海岸線就是這麼長，而新北占的比例就是這麼高，所以身為新北市的立法委員，我督促海委會是不是能夠讓擁有海岸線相當長的縣市，也要能夠更積極一點提出這樣的申請案？","quality":0.987},{"speaker":"蘇委員巧慧","start":"2026-04-29T09:34:30.788000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T09:34:36.150000+08:00","text":"我同意這個要主動申請，因為是稀缺資源、競爭型計畫，對不對？是。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T09:34:36.31000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