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謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:17:34.016000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:17:35.262000+08:00","text":"召委、與會同仁。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:17:35.885000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:17:37.472000+08:00","text":"請海委會管主委。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:17:45.732000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:17:45.732000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:17:46.032000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:17:46.272000+08:00","text":"主委好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:17:47.793000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:18:12.100000+08:00","text":"現在我們國家船模實驗室在推動中，其實我們都知道海委會尤其在推動海洋相關事務的過程中都很辛苦，所以對海委會所有的預算，本席在這邊是非常的支持，因為我們知道大家在船上，為了守護國土，大家都很辛苦。","quality":0.899},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:18:12.620000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:18:46.206000+08:00","text":"但是本席要求的就是，包括海專也好，過去是海專現在是海洋科技大學，以及海洋大學，目前他們招收新生的速度有點緩慢，其實這跟海巡、海洋都有連帶關係，所以未來我們要怎麼扶植，讓年輕一輩有志向投入海洋事業？","quality":0.876},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:18:47.106000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:18:53.590000+08:00","text":"不管生態也好，海巡署也好，我們還是要鼓勵這些年輕人來投入海洋。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:18:54.230000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:18:57.232000+08:00","text":"我想請問主委有沒有具體的辦法？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:18:58.790000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:19:07.652000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，從很宏觀、結構性的角度，探討我們海洋相關的人才培育問題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:19:07.652000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:19:16.335000+08:00","text":"確實我們非常希望國內高等教育在有關於海洋相關的科系能夠多，而且能夠招生滿額。","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:19:18.155000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:19:29.983000+08:00","text":"這個部分的話，不見得是我們完全可以掌握，但是我們必須要盤點，然後對於海洋人力結構的培育問題，我們要掌握它的趨勢，提出我們應該要有的見解。","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:19:35.827000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:20:08.799000+08:00","text":"有關於最直接為我們亟需的部分，就有透過我們的努力去增班，譬如海巡相關的訓練，無論是海專也好，或者是海大也好，人力訓練都必須要增加量能才能夠更符合我們的需要，未來我們也不排除跟這兩個學校以外的其他海洋相關大學探討合作的方式。","quality":0.99},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:20:09.800000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:20:24.762000+08:00","text":"除此以外，其他的訓練，跟社會性的、海洋意識、海洋素養方面的教育，我們也都有在努力。好的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:20:27.567000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:20:28.308000+08:00","text":"主委，為什麼我會提出這個問題？","quality":0.692},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:20:28.969000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:20:55.339000+08:00","text":"現在我們了解很多年輕人投入海洋的比例算是非常低，所以不管是海巡署或者各港口開放給小朋友、在學的學生來參觀，有參觀就有解說嘛，讓他們了解生態、海洋以及投入這個工作的重要性，不然現在是很多人……有。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:20:55.800000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:20:55.920000+08:00","text":"未來會有斷層。是。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:20:55.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:21:05.294000+08:00","text":"未來用招聘跟考取的絕對都不一樣。是。","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:21:05.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:21:07.494000+08:00","text":"這個我們一定要去討論。","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:21:07.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:21:35.967000+08:00","text":"謝謝，跟委員報告，我們有辦，但以海巡來講，我們必須在不影響他們勤、任務履行，要在餘力下來辦，我們都有辦，我們甚至有帶年輕人去東沙，這些營隊我們都有辦，但是沒辦法非常多，所以我們就從國海院來發展海洋素養教育，變成深入學校，而且是深入到國民教育，深入到國小、深入到國中。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:21:36.428000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:21:57.366000+08:00","text":"我們已經培養了三百多個種子教師，有一套教案跟教具，這一套教案跟教具是非常好的啟發性科學教材，已經進入兩百多所學校實施這個教材，所以我們就是儘量推廣。對。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:21:57.786000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:22:28.644000+08:00","text":"這個計畫若是繼續做下去，我們是很希望等它發展到一個成熟的階段，我們跟教育部協商，讓我們這一套海洋素養教育如何能夠真的變成更制度性地在校園裡面推廣，這是國小、國中都可以實施的一個教材，甚至於我們要研發到高中程度、本土化海洋素養教育的教材。","quality":0.891},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:22:30.747000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:22:31.588000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝主委，這一定要持續推動。是。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:22:36.373000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:22:46.918000+08:00","text":"教育中心有4處，在臺南、澎湖、臺中、新竹，但是未來新北也要納入。","quality":0.84},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:22:47.438000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:22:47.918000+08:00","text":"對，我們趕快來請……","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:22:47.918000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:22:48.918000+08:00","text":"本席的建議，好不好？","quality":0},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:22:47.918000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:22:48.058000+08:00","text":"我們趕快，這是地方政府……","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:22:48.058000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:22:49.058000+08:00","text":"時間上的問題。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳委員琪銘","start":"2026-04-29T10:22:48.538000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:22:48.558000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:22:49.058000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:22:50.058000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T10:22:50.358000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:22:52.358000+08:00","text":"謝謝吳琪銘委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T10:22:52.658000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:22:54.943714+08:00","text":"接下來請黃捷委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}