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高雄就是遠洋漁業重鎮所以當然我們在國際上透過農業部跟這個不管是歐盟或者是其他太平洋島國之間的這些互動還有外交部的協助其實高雄在我過去跟高雄遠洋漁業的這些接觸其實我大概知道我們中央政府農業部甚至我們未來海委會都可以協助很多他們對海洋事務的推動非常的緊張"},{"start":278.473,"end":283.039,"text":"這個管主委也非常清楚過去你的選區有非常多遠洋漁業的這些朋友們"},{"start":283.663,"end":309.703,"text":"那另外針對這些不明小艇要強化我們的禁案的這些監測那以及這個中國的這個海警或者是中國的漁船的聚集那對於我們的這些漁民安全情資掌握以及海上巡護等等我們都希望海委會有更多更精密的這些作業可以讓漁民讓國人安心"},{"start":310.484,"end":332.484,"text":"那也有很多其他委員有提到無人機我想在這邊也說明一下我曾經協助有一些尤其是接下來玩水的人又多了可能又有一些海上必須要救援的這些案件除了內政部"},{"start":335.493,"end":350.226,"text":"空勤總隊的巡防之外其實我們也高度期待海委會這邊的無人機無人機有人可能會把無人機當作玩具當然也有玩具的無人機也有到這個"},{"start":352.488,"end":371.978,"text":"上個禮拜才跟我們副組委在司法聯席委員會裡面針對我們海巡署要增設一名副署長那天非常快一下大家都支持也有這種我提到的這種烏克蘭軍用無人機可以攔截飛彈你說它貴嗎?它相對於這種飛彈來講它非常便宜"},{"start":378.242,"end":398.38,"text":"所以無人機非常非常多種我們在過去在協助包含相關的這些搜救救援不管是我們國軍的弟兄又或者是我們民眾戲水等等的我們高度期待無人機可以再增設多一點因為每次有這些災難發生的時候"},{"start":400.702,"end":426.625,"text":"其實我想很多在講無人機的人沒有看過但是我也感謝海委會其實在高雄辦了兩次這個巡演的時候其實也有展示相關的這些無人機的系統那所以我們很清楚它要偵測它不是只要能飛上它要有非常多的鏡頭鏡頭要到什麼程度等等的可以達到可以偵搜或者是可以"},{"start":427.225,"end":446.808,"text":"快速的看到可能這個落海者啦或者是相關的漁船的定位等等的我們高度的期待啦這好像家裡要買新車一樣就是我們很期待我們這個海委會的這些相關的無人機的系統尤其是夜間是 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謝謝"},{"start":497.368,"end":497.389,"text":"謝謝滿感謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:39+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:43:40.034000+08:00","text":"謝謝，邀請管主委，辛苦了。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:40.034000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:43:41.068000+08:00","text":"請管主委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:41.068000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:43:42.102000+08:00","text":"召委好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:42.102000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:43:43.403000+08:00","text":"主委，很久沒審預算了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:43.403000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:43:44.504000+08:00","text":"是，我們很期待，感謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:44.504000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:43:59.317000+08:00","text":"上一次審預算是2024年9月在我們委員會，那一年的預算其實非常的遺憾，當然在委員會裡面大家有經過充分的討論，非常認真的審議。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:59.317000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:00.317000+08:00","text":"是，當時非常支持。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:43:59.738000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:21.030000+08:00","text":"民進黨黨團的部分，我們也是原班人馬，除了要繼續審海洋委員會的預算之外，在2024年的預算上做了非常多的討論，基本上我們的立場就是要人給人、要錢給錢，甚至我們還爭取深夜危勞津貼的部分。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:22.271000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:35.688000+08:00","text":"但是很遺憾，在2024年我們去到院會的時候，其他的提案幾乎把我們內政委員會審議完畢的預算全部打亂。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:36.129000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:53.031000+08:00","text":"我當然是很期待，也要呼籲在野黨委員，我們等一下一起審議這個預算，我們有經過充分的討論，也希望未來可以在院會裡面，共同捍衛我們一起審議的這一份預算。","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:53.491000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:53.932000+08:00","text":"是，謝謝召委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:53.932000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:44:59.216000+08:00","text":"謝謝主委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:44:59.216000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:45:19.943000+08:00","text":"今天這一份預算應該是去年8月29號就已經送入立法院，經過245天的時間，我們終於可以在內政委員會審議，而且我們幾乎是全院第一個審議預算的委員會。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:45:20.063000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:45:28.347000+08:00","text":"我在這邊說明為什麼內政委員會必須要排列海委會先做這些預算的審查報告。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:45:32.148000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:46:12.083000+08:00","text":"我先說明今天所有的預算我大概都全力支持之外，我有做幾個提案的建議，包含希望海委會跟行政院可以做出相關的書面報告提供給委員會、深夜危勞津貼接下來的執行狀況，也包含剛剛主委講到的，我來排考察岸巡隊的環境，因為接下來你說會有超過100億的中長程計畫，希望可以支持我們所有岸巡、海巡的工作環境，不是只有給錢，工作的環境也要好，人家才願意擔任海巡、岸巡人員。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:46:12.083000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:46:13.603000+08:00","text":"是，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:46:13.603000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:46:29.750000+08:00","text":"接下來，針對我們很關心的斷纜、權宜輪及侵入我們海域的這一些，我們希望可以讓國人安心，而整個海巡署的相關程序怎麼做，我們希望都可以有。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:46:31.570000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:46:42.569000+08:00","text":"另外，我還針對海洋委員會……高雄市政府有海洋局，賴瑞隆就當過海洋局的局長，海洋局要做什麼？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:46:42.569000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:47:06.444000+08:00","text":"跟海委會一樣，除了可能涉及目前海委會裡面有的包含海巡、海保等等，我希望重視產業這一塊，所以包括船員的培訓，包括可能涉及海洋方面的相關產業部分。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:47:07.084000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:47:18.668000+08:00","text":"其實我們都應該要站在輔導的角色，讓他們可以上軌道，不是只有海保，也不是只有海巡，我們要結合讓產業也可以發展。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:47:19.068000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:47:25.851000+08:00","text":"大概兩個部分跟委員報告，第一個，關於高雄市政府的部分，他們發展帆船航行的相關活動，我們非常支持……","quality":0.721},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:47:25.851000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:47:26.231000+08:00","text":"還有郵輪、遊艇展。","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:47:26.391000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:47:27.071000+08:00","text":"對，我們非常支持。","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:47:30.452000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:47:46.081000+08:00","text":"另外，我們其實跟海洋局的合作也很密切，我們有一個興達港碼頭強固跟疏濬的計畫，大概是十八億多，這十八億多的案件就委託海洋局替我們執行，這個將來對漁業都會有幫助。","quality":0.877},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:47:49.963000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:48:12.470000+08:00","text":"對，高雄就是遠洋漁業重鎮，所以我們在國際上透過農業部跟歐盟或是其他太平洋島國之間的這些互動，還有外交部的協助，從我過去跟高雄遠洋漁業的接觸，其實我大概知道中央政府農業部甚至未來海委會都可以協助很多。","quality":0.989},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:48:12.490000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:48:15.051000+08:00","text":"他們對於海洋事務的推動非常積極。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:48:17.473000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:48:22.039000+08:00","text":"管主委也非常清楚，過去你的選區有非常多遠洋漁業的朋友們。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:48:23.083000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:48:48.683000+08:00","text":"另外，針對這些不明小艇，要強化我們的近岸監測，以及注意中國的海警或中國漁船的聚集，對於漁民安全、情資掌握及海上巡護等等，我們都希望海委會有更多更精密的作業可以讓漁民、讓國人安心。是。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:48:49.664000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:49:24.002000+08:00","text":"也有很多委員提到無人機，我想在這邊也說明一下，尤其接下來玩水的人變多了，可能又有一些海上必須要救援的案件，除了內政部空勤總隊的巡防之外，其實我們也高度期待海委會的無人機。","quality":0.987},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:49:24.002000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:49:41.373000+08:00","text":"有人可能會把無人機當作玩具，當然也有玩具的無人機，我上個禮拜才跟副主委在司法的聯席委員會裡面，針對海巡署要增設一名副署長。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:49:41.373000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:49:43.755000+08:00","text":"那天非常快，大家都支持……","quality":1},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:49:43.755000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:49:44.955000+08:00","text":"很感謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:49:44.955000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:49:50.358000+08:00","text":"也有我提到的烏克蘭軍用無人機可以攔截飛彈，你說它貴嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:49:50.458000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:49:59.984000+08:00","text":"相對於飛彈來講，它非常便宜，所以無人機有非常、非常多種。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:49:59.984000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:50:33.815000+08:00","text":"我們過去在協助相關的搜救或救援，不管是國軍弟兄，又或者是民眾戲水等等的，我們高度期待無人機可以再增設多一點，因為每次有這些災難發生的時候，其實我想很多在講無人機的人都沒有看過，但是我也感謝海委會在高雄辦了兩次巡演時，也有展示相關無人機的系統。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:50:33.975000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:51:02.644000+08:00","text":"所以我們很清楚它要增設，它不是只要能飛，也要有非常多的鏡頭，以及鏡頭要到什麼程度等等的，達到可以偵搜或是可以快速看到落海者，或者是相關的漁船定位等等的，我們高度期待，這好像家裡要買新車一樣，我們很期待海委會相關無人機的系統。","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:51:02.644000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:51:05.788000+08:00","text":"尤其是夜間，夜間要看得到。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:51:06.948000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:51:16.513000+08:00","text":"對，就是黃金24小時、黃金36小時，我們都很希望可以快速偵搜到、可以救援到，也可以掌握到所有的訊息。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:51:19.235000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:51:35.846000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我非常信任海巡，因為從國艦國造以來，海巡執行國家非常多的大計畫和大案都非常順利，而且維持廉政，在採購的部分都沒有發生過政風案件。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"管主任委員碧玲","start":"2026-04-29T10:51:38.308000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:51:48.877000+08:00","text":"這也讓我們的海巡有越來越好的設備，然後有越來越好的能力，所以這個部分請委員放心，當然我們監督是需要的，但是……","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"李委員柏毅","start":"2026-04-29T10:51:49.398000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T10:51:56.368000+08:00","text":"我們也一樣，要人給人、要錢給錢、要裝備給裝備，支持海巡。謝謝。謝謝。","quality":0.815},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T10:51:56.868000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:51:58.868000+08:00","text":"謝謝李柏毅召委。","quality":0.143},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T10:51:59.168000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T10:52:02.310857+08:00","text":"接下來請鄭天財委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}