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而且紅窩蟻整個蔓延到了苗栗所以很清楚的紅窩蟻的南北防線已經全部都被突破可是預算還是持續的逐年下降我對這裡面的邏輯不是很清楚 可不可以請部長做個說明我簡單的說 你這樣來看的話 他預算大概是"},{"start":489.744,"end":515.739,"text":"兩千多萬到兩千八百多萬那以這樣的一個幾百萬的額度通常是在預算最後統三的時候去被刪除的部分但是相關的因為統三預算有刪除但是執行需要的話我們就用想辦法用其他的經費來協助連這個部分都沒有問題所以本期這邊所以你說這個預算數逐年降低是因為被統三的關係可能是統三因為都幾百萬嘛差幾百萬通常是統三的關係啦"},{"start":517.641,"end":545.282,"text":"那針對紅活椅的部分尤其在新竹市的地方我們看到新竹市的情況還是持續的一個狀態並沒有真正很明顯的一個改善那請之後給本席針對新竹市紅活椅的相關的一個範圍還有整個處置的一個狀態給本席一個簡單的書面資料我最後這邊剩下再多給我一兩分鐘的時候我特別要講一下有關於那個"},{"start":546.222,"end":560.287,"text":"馬鈴薯的問題 因為很多人都關心馬鈴薯這件事情那我只是比較特別一點是因為我看到了一個我們馬鈴薯這個部分我們之前有一個食品"},{"start":562.828,"end":588.37,"text":"食用馬鈴薯輸入檢疫條件是在107年就公佈了對不對然後我們現在多了一個美國產加工用馬鈴薯輸入檢疫條件是在115年2月6號通過嘛那在當中的時候很清楚的狀態把那個有扎芽的馬鈴薯這條件把它給去除掉因為本來是不能夠進口現在把它給排除掉了對不對最主要變化在這個地方"},{"start":590.372,"end":611.49,"text":"應該這麼講喔過去的食用馬鈴薯其實它是分為鮮食跟加工它是沒有分開的那其實在過去的一兩年之間其實我們跟美方就這個議題其實已經談了兩三年之久了那美國一直希望能夠比照日本日本是允許加工用馬鈴薯直接進來那以台灣來講我理解這個狀態"},{"start":614.452,"end":639.039,"text":"我只是特別想要特別去講到一個點就是說因為這個我們在馬鈴薯這事情的一個讓步當中的時候我覺得時間點就是感覺很特殊因為1月16號的時候正義軍赴美簽MOU那麼我們1月21號農業部就公告了可是原本我們一般公告會有60天我們在這個事情公告只有14天然後2月6號就公告完成然後2月13號就簽約我覺得這個部分"},{"start":641.98,"end":663.403,"text":"我想特別強調一個點就是說農業部對於我們台灣農業的一個保護跟把關一定要盡力啦那除了這個部分因為它還牽涉到食安的問題那包括我們最近在講的花生的問題我們都希望農業部這邊對於台灣的農產品能夠盡力的去保護不要很輕而易舉的就把它犧牲掉"},{"start":663.783,"end":686.695,"text":"好不好我想這是農業部的責任然後針對馬鈴薯的部分我再次強調我們的檢疫條件檢疫的標準沒有變那相關的食安衛護部的這些檢驗的標準也沒有變只是在程序上面我們做了一些調整部長當國門這邊已經退守的時候你把所有的責任檢疫的相關的量能跟壓力全部都往後端"},{"start":687.575,"end":698.903,"text":"去地方上去送的時候我覺得這量能性是有問題的我們之後再另外再找你們到辦公室這邊來做溝通這件事情主席已經站起來很久了謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:19:43.376000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:19:45.283000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，我想請農業部陳駿季部長。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"主席（邱委員志偉）","start":"2026-04-29T11:19:45.283000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:19:45.323000+08:00","text":"請農業部陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:19:45.323000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:19:54.860000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:19:54.860000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:19:55.140000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:19:56.001000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:20:16.546000+08:00","text":"今天我們審農業部的預算詢答，農業部今年在農業管理和動物保護管理計畫下面，有一個新增計畫叫作建置寵物食品管理及產業輔導計畫，它是一個四年期的計畫，跨年度總經費是7.5億元左右，今年度編列大約6,900萬元。","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:20:16.886000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:20:24.309000+08:00","text":"請問一下，這個新興的跨年度計畫是什麼時候核定的？","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:20:26.952000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:20:34.098000+08:00","text":"行政院在今年1月份授權到我們農業部，我們2月核定。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:20:42.345000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:21:13.824000+08:00","text":"所以我們是在3月把這個跨年度的預算編列出來，114年3月有這個寵物食品管理的計畫，因為3月這個版的時候，今年度的預算是1.8億元，今年實際編列是6,900萬元，我不知道為什麼會差距這個狀態，我想請問一下，我們現在跨年度的年度經費分配表出來了沒？","quality":0.961},{"speaker":"江司長文全","start":"2026-04-29T11:21:17.530000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:21:22.833000+08:00","text":"報告委員，目前的分配表按照中程計畫的分年期是有分配出來的。","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:21:24.033000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:21:29.636000+08:00","text":"因為我們去要一直都要不到，只看到有一個3月份的這個預算表。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:21:30.496000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:21:39.200000+08:00","text":"這個預算表當中，今年是1.8億元，我不曉得差距這麼多的錢是壓縮在後面3年。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:21:40.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:21:49.863000+08:00","text":"等一下結束之後，馬上把分配表送到我們辦公室來，因為我們之前在要一直要不到，碰到的狀態就是一個錯誤的情況。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:21:50.003000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:22:09.626000+08:00","text":"我想特別請教一個狀態，我會特別問這個點，是因為計畫裡面基本上在講的都是跟整個寵物食品管理規範辦法有關政策宣導、建立寵物食品營養師等等相關部分，這個部分都規範在我們的寵物食品管理法裡面。","quality":0.989},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:22:10.687000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:22:14.868000+08:00","text":"請教一下，寵物食品管理法目前進度怎麼樣？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:22:14.988000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:22:28.095000+08:00","text":"因為在立法院一直沒有看到這個法出來，我們現在法還沒有出來，計畫已經往下走了，預算已經編列了，請部長做個簡單的回應。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:22:28.095000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:22:37.980000+08:00","text":"我先跟委員報告，寵物食品管理法的部分已經送到行政院，現在審查完畢，經過政委再次確認以後，就會進到院會。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:22:37.980000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:22:40.482000+08:00","text":"預計什麼時候會進來？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:22:40.482000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:22:56.693000+08:00","text":"因為進到行政院的流程，同時有很多法案在行政院排隊，我們會去請求行政院，儘快把已經完成審查的法案排進去，也會表達經濟委員會委員的關切，能夠儘快送到院會以後，送到立法院來。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:22:59.035000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:23:28.660000+08:00","text":"除了這個部分一定要加快速度，我在想說現在毛小孩的家庭非常多，既然我們有寵物食品管理法要訂，前年就已經公告了，到現在都還沒有送到立法院來，所以我們也很擔心，因為很多相關的民團統計，我們寵物食品管理法下面會衍生出來的子法跟相關辦法可能會高達25項。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:23:28.660000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:23:29.761000+08:00","text":"二十多項。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:23:31.682000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:23:40.968000+08:00","text":"請教部長，這二十幾項相關的子法跟辦法大概需要多久的時間才能夠完善起來？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:23:42.18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4-29T11:28:02.337000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:28:05.719000+08:00","text":"有一部分可能是統刪，因為數額是幾百萬，而差幾百萬通常是統刪的關係。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:28:08.721000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:28:18.669000+08:00","text":"OK，針對紅火蟻問題，尤其在新竹市，我們看到情況還是持續，並沒有真正明顯的改善。","quality":0.829},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:28:19.930000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:28:28.957000+08:00","text":"之後請針對新竹市紅火蟻的範圍以及整體處置狀態，給本席一份簡單的書面資料。","quality":0.794},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:28:30.118000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:28:36.502000+08:00","text":"最後再多給我一、兩分鐘，我要特別講一下馬鈴薯的問題。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:28:37.302000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:28:39.243000+08:00","text":"很多人都關心馬鈴薯這件事情啦！","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:28:40.564000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:28:58.053000+08:00","text":"只是我特別針對一點，我看到之前政府針對馬鈴薯有一項食用馬鈴薯輸入檢疫條件，在107年就公布了，對不對？是。","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:28:58.453000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:29:06.760000+08:00","text":"現在多了美國產加工用馬鈴薯輸入檢疫條件，是在115年2月6日通過。是。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:29:08.141000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:29:18.350000+08:00","text":"這當中有一點很清楚，就是把發芽馬鈴薯這個條件去除掉，本來不能夠進口，現在則排除掉了，最主要的變化在這個地方，對不對？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季：應該這麼講","start":"2026-04-29T11:29:21.473000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:29:25.996000+08:00","text":"食用馬鈴薯其實分為鮮食與加工，但過去是沒有分開的。","quality":0.826},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季：應該這麼講","start":"2026-04-29T11:29:29.780000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:29:41.309000+08:00","text":"我們跟美方就這個議題其實已經談了兩、三年之久，美國一直希望比照日本，日本允許加工用馬鈴薯直接進口，以臺灣來講，我們增加……","quality":0.907},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:29:41.309000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:29:46.753000+08:00","text":"OK，部長，我理解這個狀態，只是特別想問你講到的一點。","quality":0.696},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:29:49.133000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:30:05.598000+08:00","text":"關於我們對馬鈴薯讓步這件事，感覺時間點很特殊，因為1月16日鄭麗君赴美簽MOU，農業部1月21日就公告了，可是一般公告原本會有60天，這件事情公告只有14天。","quality":0.746},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:30:06.218000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:30:08.739000+08:00","text":"然後，2月6日公告完成，2月13日就簽約。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:30:08.999000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:30:19.148000+08:00","text":"對於這部分，我想特別強調一個重點，就是農業部對於臺灣農業的保護跟把關一定要盡力啦！","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:30:19.988000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:30:33.963000+08:00","text":"除了這部分還牽涉食安，也包括最近講的花生問題，我們都希望農業部對臺灣的農產品能夠盡力保護，不要輕而易舉地犧牲掉，好不好？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:30:34.223000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:30:35.364000+08:00","text":"我想，這是農業部的責任。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:30:35.524000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:30:49.191000+08:00","text":"然後，針對馬鈴薯問題，我再次強調，檢疫條件與檢驗標準沒有變，衛福部等食安相關檢驗標準也沒有變，我們只是在程序上做了一些調整。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:30:49.191000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:30:50.191000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝……","quality":0},{"speaker":"鄭委員正鈐","start":"2026-04-29T11:30:49.551000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:31:08.883000+08:00","text":"部長，當國門已經退守的時候，你把所有責任、檢疫相關量能及壓力全都往後端的地方送，我覺得這樣的量能其實是有問題的，我之後再另外找你們到辦公室溝通這件事情，因為主席已經站起來很久了。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:31:08.903000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:31:08.903000+08:00","text":"好，了解。謝謝。","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:31:09.403000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:31:14.545857+08:00","text":"站到腳都酸了，謝謝鄭正鈐委員，部長先回座。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:31:14.845857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:31:17.988714+08:00","text":"下一位請賴士葆委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}