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你好好面對這個問題啦這個大家要對這個很好 我想我們一起來努力我們要看到發芽的馬鈴薯啊 你現在是交給"},{"start":216.168,"end":242.065,"text":"檢驗一顆一顆檢驗是交給個別工廠加工廠目前加工廠只有兩家耶然後你針對這個要屬科檢驗誰來確定它可以做到屬科檢驗我跟委員報告第一個部分齁這個加工廠並不是只有兩家這個就是說其實我們有看到我們看到發芽但是它還是農會檢沒有超標喔超標也是餘地退貴喔"},{"start":242.745,"end":269.154,"text":"我先問你 你怎麼確定他們有沒有驗你怎麼確定這家紅茶 不管幾家你怎麼確定他有檢驗因為我們的 我們是整櫃封簽運到指定的地點以後由檢疫人員督導之下開櫃然後他們做就是輸用帶的自動選別選別完合格的我們才發檢疫合格證他的正式的入關所以這個過程都還在邊境檢疫"},{"start":271.345,"end":282.495,"text":"第三個 最後一個小問題ART3.3條第四段他要加速MIL就是溶液殘留的容量"},{"start":284.697,"end":304.394,"text":"簡單來講就是幫美國的藥商 如孟山都、丹麥爾、量身病照的打造到人家講話好不好你可以跟我們講一下台灣被迫用美國的標準USBA或者是FDA不過我想這是不正確的訊息第一個齁 這個我要存你版本是食藥組在訂第二個部位...USBA的標準...翻譯給我來"},{"start":305.635,"end":322.725,"text":"MIL是食藥組在訂的第二個就是說農藥殘留標準是跟我們的實用的攝取量是有關係的就是ADI整個的ADI的概念它跟不同的國家都不一樣所以我們是參考國際標準但是我們也會參考我們的實用的一個習慣好 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"end":"2026-04-29T11:34:10.745000+08:00","text":"農安基金300億就是在處理這些我們必須長期關切、會影響產業的問題，而且我們要讓這個產業升級。300億！","quality":0.829},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:34:10.745000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:34:11.026000+08:00","text":"張俊雄……你知道這個人吧？知道。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:34:15.685000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:34:18.390000+08:00","text":"以前的行政院長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:34:18.390000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:34:34.312000+08:00","text":"他那時候因為臺灣要加入WTO，就編了1,000億，因應加入世貿所產生的……還不是農業方面的補助基金，就編了1,000億啦！","quality":0.83},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:34:35.333000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:34:37.034000+08:00","text":"你現在還在講300億，那時候是1,000億啊！","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:34:38.535000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:34:45.741000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，加入WTO當時，農業的競爭力跟現在不可同日而語，我們也會積極地給產業協助。","quality":0.675},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:34:45.741000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:34:47.223000+08:00","text":"你好好面對這個問題啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:34:48.023000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:34:48.724000+08:00","text":"大家應該對這點很感冒。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:34:49.144000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:34:50.205000+08:00","text":"我們一起努力，我們會協助地方政府。","quality":0.533},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:34:50.345000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:34:50.625000+08:00","text":"我們來看發芽的馬鈴薯。","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:34:50.886000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:35:05.415000+08:00","text":"你說一顆一顆檢驗是交給個別工廠、加工廠，但目前加工廠只有兩家，卻要逐顆檢驗，誰來確定真的有逐顆檢驗？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:35:05.415000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:35:09.298000+08:00","text":"我要跟委員報告，第一部分，加工廠並不是只有兩家。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:35:09.298000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:35:11.339000+08:00","text":"是比較重要的啦！","quality":0.143},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:35:11.339000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:35:20.045000+08:00","text":"其實當我們看到發芽，龍葵鹼可能還是沒有超標，若超標也一律退櫃喔！","quality":0.655},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:35:20.745000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:35:25.107000+08:00","text":"我先問你，你怎麼確定他們有沒有驗？","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:35:25.107000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:35:29.468000+08:00","text":"你怎麼確定這一家……或者不管幾家，你怎麼確定他們有沒有檢驗？","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:35:29.468000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:35:46.374000+08:00","text":"因為我們是整櫃封緘、運到指定地點以後，在檢疫人員督導之下開櫃，他們做輸送帶的自動選別，對於選別完合格的，我們會發檢疫合格證，才正式入關喔！","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:35:46.374000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:35:47.134000+08:00","text":"所以這段過程都還在邊境檢疫。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:35:49.345000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:35:50.806000+08:00","text":"第三、最後一個小問題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:35:50.806000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:36:07.921000+08:00","text":"ART第3.3條第4段提及加速MRL，也就是農業殘留容量，簡單來講就是幫美國藥商如孟山都、拜耳量身打造的……好……","quality":0.766},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:36:08.842000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:36:09.102000+08:00","text":"讓他講完好不好？","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:36:10.463000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:36:12.485000+08:00","text":"臺灣是不是被迫用美國USDA或FDA的標準？","quality":0.476},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:36:15.648000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:36:17.430000+08:00","text":"我想這是不正確的訊息。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:36:17.430000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:36:18.510667+08:00","text":"第一，農業殘留標準是由食藥署制定。第二……","quality":0.118},{"speaker":"賴委員士葆","start":"2026-04-29T11:36:18.510667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:36:19.591333+08:00","text":"就是食藥署翻譯過來的不是嗎？","quality":0.231},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:36:19.591333+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:36:20.672000+08:00","text":"MRL是由食藥署制定。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:36:20.672000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:36:40.545000+08:00","text":"第二，農藥殘留標準跟食用攝取量是有關係的，整個ADI的概念在不同國家不一樣，我們是參考國際標準，但也會參考我們的食用習慣。","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:36:41.045000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:36:44.473571+08:00","text":"謝謝賴士葆委員，部長先回座。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:36:44.773571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:36:47.916429+08:00","text":"下一位，請賴惠員委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}