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挺台灣的花生未來我們也做產地的標示別說花生醬啦 或者是一些花生糖餅乾等等也標示這個花生的產地從何而來讓我們一起來挺台灣的花生可不可以"},{"start":270.348,"end":281.327,"text":"謝謝委員這就是我們要去做的就是我們國產花生也有我們的特色所以產地的標示跟我們相關的品牌的推動這是我們首要要去做的所以可以標示產地那請問馬鈴薯可不可以"},{"start":285.498,"end":294.265,"text":"馬鈴薯本身在食品的加工裡面它應該有原料那我不知道它是不是有經過時事轉型嘛我們馬鈴薯尤其我們的薯片這種零食薯片這個如果經過時事轉型的話它就可以改標台灣但是我想這個議題我們也會跟食藥組談好"},{"start":302.37,"end":321.661,"text":"所以我希望不管是花生不管是馬鈴薯未來能夠標示產地第一個挺台灣的花生第二個保障我們消費者食安的選擇這兩大目標部長同意嗎這個同意而且我們一定會去往這個方向去做"},{"start":322.601,"end":340.417,"text":"起碼要這樣做啦但是對於我們花生農的影響像茶葉有沒有我們現在你只有百分之百台灣茶葉才能標台灣茶你不能用混的也不行這個就是我們過去的努力我想我們一定會努力讓台灣的花生真正的回到我們消費的第一選擇"},{"start":341.338,"end":357.85,"text":"對 沒有錯 不要因為這個價格而造成他們整個的這個生意的影響你今天轉型或者是要集團化對很多花生農來講 一時半刻他沒有辦法所以我才會說我們要用價值去取代價格的戰爭好 謝謝黃衛委員來 部長先回座"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:42:32.326000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:42:32.606000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，請陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:42:32.606000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:42:32.726000+08:00","text":"請農業部陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:42:53.722000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:42:53.722000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:42:53.982000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:42:54.802000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:42:56.663000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:43:12.346000+08:00","text":"ART簽了什麼現在一一浮上檯面，真的是一波未平，一波又起，馬鈴薯的爭議還在，現在大家關心的是我們對美國進口花生零關稅。","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:43:12.966000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:43:18.787000+08:00","text":"請問部長，我們對美國進口花生零關稅什麼時候會生效？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:43:19.807000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:43:29.156000+08:00","text":"目前雖然ART內容談定了，但是關於ART文本本身的法令依據，美方正在做法律框架的調整，所以還沒生效。","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:43:29.416000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:43:29.657000+08:00","text":"目前還沒生效？","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:43:31.358000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:43:37.084000+08:00","text":"就算簽署，也要送到立法院進行審查的過程。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:43:37.244000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:43:44.109000+08:00","text":"但是，比如說馬鈴薯的規範是從2月6日就開始生效，你們已有新的公告。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:43:44.970000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:43:51.254000+08:00","text":"所以花生進口零關稅目前還不確定生效時間，是嗎？","quality":0.619},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:43:52.789000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:43:57.671000+08:00","text":"花生目前還沒有確定，也因為現在沒有生效，我們就不會執行。","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:43:57.871000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:44:04.813000+08:00","text":"但針對馬鈴薯，我們過去兩、三年就一直談論這個議題，所以在這個議題的處理過程中……","quality":0.771},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:44:05.193000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:44:06.234000+08:00","text":"馬鈴薯部分生效了，對不對？","quality":0.545},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:44:07.214000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:44:11.335000+08:00","text":"加工用馬鈴薯已經公告生效了。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:44:11.675000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:44:27.753000+08:00","text":"那我想請問部長，如果你今天賣一碗滷肉飯，隔壁的價格就是比你的一半還要低，會不會影響你的價格？","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:44:28.673000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:44:29.654000+08:00","text":"會不會影響你的生意？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:44:31.055000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:44:34.978000+08:00","text":"價格是影響購買意願的所有因素之一，但是相對的……","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:44:35.639000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:44:47.464000+08:00","text":"可是價格差這麼多，美國的花生價格大概是臺灣本土花生的4成而已，還不是一半。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:44:48.685000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:44:58.188000+08:00","text":"另外，你們的對外說法當然是我國並不是只從美國進口，還跟其他國家進口，譬如說阿根廷，對不對？","quality":0.775},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:44:58.928000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:45:00.329000+08:00","text":"印度、阿根廷、巴西。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:45:01.569000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:45:32.905000+08:00","text":"那我想請問，阿根廷跟巴西距離很近，連我們都會擔心中國大陸的產品在臺灣洗產地，如果我們只對美國的花生零關稅……而且以阿根廷產品在臺灣的價格，雖然有些比臺灣本土花生高，有些比臺灣本土花生低，但基本上他們的價格沒有跟臺灣花生差那麼多。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:45:33.845000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:45:37.246000+08:00","text":"所以請問一下，未來南美洲國家──阿根廷、巴西產品要進口臺灣前，也到美國洗產地的事會不會發生？","quality":0.31},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:45:44.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:46:03.115000+08:00","text":"因為關稅差太多了，他們可以享受零關稅，所以未來臺灣花生的對手不僅僅是美國花生，還會包括阿根廷花生跟巴西花生，會不會？","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:46:03.595000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:46:08.537000+08:00","text":"您剛剛提到洗產地，美國本身就是花生的輸出大國，印度也是。","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:46:08.957000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:46:10.958000+08:00","text":"假如印度要拉到美國洗產地……","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:46:11.118000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:46:11.978000+08:00","text":"所以我剛剛特別不講印度嘛！","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:46:12.238000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:46:13.139000+08:00","text":"因為印度太遠了啦！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:46:13.139000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:46:14.299000+08:00","text":"但是阿根廷、巴西……","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:46:14.299000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:46:19.760000+08:00","text":"其實一樣，因為美國是輸出大國，應該不會允許。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:46:20.700000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:46:26.461000+08:00","text":"美國不是我們能夠觸及的，但是以洗產地的機會來講，是不大可能的。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:46:27.662000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:46:35.103000+08:00","text":"部長，6月第一期花生就要收成，那麼現在的政策一定會影響他們。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:46:35.243000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:46:43.768000+08:00","text":"我們現在都訴求Team Taiwan，那能不能挺一下臺灣的花生農、挺臺灣的花生？","quality":0.611},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:46:44.569000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:00.507000+08:00","text":"未來我們也做產地標示，比如說花生醬或花生糖、餅乾等等，也標示花生產地從何而來，讓我們一起挺臺灣花生，可不可以？","quality":0.959},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:01.348000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:10.764000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，這就是我們要去做的，因為國產花生也有我們的特色，產地標示跟品牌的推動是我們首要要去做的。","quality":0.956},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:11.325000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:11.906000+08:00","text":"好，所以可以標示產地。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:11.906000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:12.906000+08:00","text":"可以，對。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:12.066000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:12.307000+08:00","text":"請問馬鈴薯可不可以？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:16.498000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:21.442000+08:00","text":"不過馬鈴薯本身在食品的加工裡面，它應該有原料，我不知道它是不是有經過實質轉型。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:21.762000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:23.083000+08:00","text":"所以馬鈴薯，尤其是我們的薯片，這種零食薯片……","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:23.183000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:25.244000+08:00","text":"這個如果經過實質轉型的話，它就可以改標臺灣，我想這個議題我們也會跟食藥署談。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:25.244000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:50.559000+08:00","text":"好，我希望不管是花生，不管是馬鈴薯，未來能夠標示產地，第一個，挺臺灣的花生；第二個，保障消費者食安的選擇，這兩大目標部長同意嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:50.559000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:52.641000+08:00","text":"同意，而且我們一定會往這個方向去做。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:52.641000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:53.641000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:53.601000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:54.562000+08:00","text":"好，起碼要這樣做啦！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:55.303000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:57.665000+08:00","text":"但是對於我們花生農的影響……","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:57.665000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:47:58.586000+08:00","text":"像茶葉有沒有？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:47:59.026000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:48:02.950000+08:00","text":"現在只有百分之百臺灣茶葉才能標臺灣茶喔！","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:48:03.430000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:48:11.417000+08:00","text":"你用混的也不行，這個就是我們過去的努力，我想我們一定會努力讓臺灣的花生真正地回到消費者的第一選擇。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:48:11.417000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:48:12.417000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:48:12.338000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:48:18.202000+08:00","text":"對，沒有錯，不要因為價格而造成他們整個生意的影響。瞭解。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:48:18.202000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:48:23.146000+08:00","text":"你今天轉型或者是要集團化，對於很多花生農來講，一時半刻他沒有辦法……","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T11:48:23.346000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:48:26.588000+08:00","text":"所以我才會說我們要用價值去取代價格的戰爭。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-04-29T11:48:26.588000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:48:26.788000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:48:26.788000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T11:48:28.830000+08:00","text":"謝謝王鴻薇委員，部長先回座。","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:48:29.330000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:48:35.044286+08:00","text":"我們中午不休息，延長開會時間到議程處理完畢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T11:48:35.344286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T11:48:38.487143+08:00","text":"下一位質詢委員請黃建賓。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}