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謝謝部長那這個消息我們就跟我們的主席的朋友還有我們全部的鄉親來講謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:15:16.069000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:15:17.550000+08:00","text":"你好，我們請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:15:17.550000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:15:18.051000+08:00","text":"請農業部陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:15:18.051000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:15:42.443000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:15:42.443000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:15:42.603000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:15:43.003000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:15:49.208000+08:00","text":"我先補充剛才蔡委員提到的野生動物對農作產品的危害。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:15:50.209000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:15:53.351000+08:00","text":"剛才提到這是個案性的問題，還是普遍性的問題？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:15:54.232000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:16:03.279000+08:00","text":"其實它已經是普遍性的問題，在我們嘉義縣的各鄉鎮，從竹崎鄉、阿里山鄉、大埔鄉都有農民跟我們一一陳情。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:16:04.460000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:16:15.248000+08:00","text":"如果我們仔細去做文獻回顧的話，臺中梨山、臺東、嘉義中埔，還有臺南、高雄等，都有相關的狀況出現。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:16:15.508000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:16:21.153000+08:00","text":"剛才部長有提到保險上面是不是將其納入天然災害，這個是不是可以思考一下？","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:16:21.933000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:16:30.259000+08:00","text":"第二個部分就是我們看到日本也是一樣，特別是在比較鄉村的地方，熊害的問題也是不斷在發生。","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:16:31.380000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:16:39.486000+08:00","text":"也就是說，我們不針對單一物種，不管牠是哪一種野生動物，在日本通常野豬是最多的，再來就是熊害。","quality":0.927},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:16:40.867000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:16:51.534000+08:00","text":"其實包含我們自己，我自己在日本比較年長的朋友，他最近車禍就是因為撞到野生動物，這樣子的狀況不斷出現。","quality":0.761},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:16:51.534000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:17:09.382000+08:00","text":"所以我們地方的鄉親提出是不是擴大獵人狩獵的範圍及其他的相關補助，另外一個做法就是用新的科技，不過我覺得在經濟效益上面來講可能又太貴了。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:17:09.943000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:17:20.686000+08:00","text":"不知道部長有沒有什麼樣的回應，可以讓我們的鄉親朋友們，特別是在比較山區的朋友們能夠應對不管是猴害、山豬、野生動物等這種危害？","quality":0.965},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:17:21.866000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:17:32.180000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員關心這個議題，我想分兩個層次來說明，第一個層次就是說遇到以後政府有沒有辦法提供一些協助的措施。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:17:33.301000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:17:50.666000+08:00","text":"這個部分我剛才有特別提到，我會請同仁規劃，就是因為猴害雖然是個案，所謂個案是它普遍發生，但是它不是同一個時間，像天然災害同一個時間、同一個區域，所以我們可能要重新界定可能發生猴害的範圍。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:17:50.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:18:07.953000+08:00","text":"第二個部分是有沒有可能透過政策型的保險，因為商業保險大概不會保，但是用政策型的保險來處理，因為它不像天然災害是同時發生，它是零星發生，但是持續發生，那用政策型保險是不是有機會去cover它的一些損失？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:18:08.254000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:18:08.674000+08:00","text":"這是第一個部分。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:18:09.194000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:18:16.898000+08:00","text":"第二個部分是防止的部分，我想我之前也講，猴子越來越多如果不處理的話，到時候牠會一直逼到我們的都會區。","quality":0.978},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:18:16.898000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:18:25.083000+08:00","text":"鄉村區現在已經有了，所以林保署已經啟動一些特殊的計畫，去做一些族群的抑制。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:18:26.604000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:18:31.948000+08:00","text":"這個族群的抑制，如果在示範區做得還不錯的話，我想我們會推廣到其他的區域去做。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:18:32.848000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:18:40.013000+08:00","text":"這個事情從我就任之前到現在，他們都不斷地跟我反映，而且這個頻率越來越多。","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:18:40.393000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:18:43.515000+08:00","text":"我們移除計畫去年就開始做了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:18:44.555000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:18:48.898000+08:00","text":"好，移除計畫如果試辦成功之後就把它擴大，然後再把它加強。","quality":0.84},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:18:48.898000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:18:50.459000+08:00","text":"對，我們就可以擴大，才能夠一直……","quality":0.231},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:18:50.459000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:18:54.961000+08:00","text":"謝謝部長，因為我時間有限，我緊接著再問一下嘉義竹崎高接梨的問題，也就是梨穗的問題。","quality":0.757},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:18:55.282000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:19:21.123000+08:00","text":"我現在用一個鄉鎮為例，竹崎鄉梨農的梨穗需求大概是一百一十多箱，但是竹崎農會直接向日本採購的話，大概只能滿足36%到40%左右，其他無法滿足的需求可能就變成要跟臺中的合作社拿貨，或者是用其他的方式去直購。","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:19:21.343000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:19:39.770000+08:00","text":"我們的意思是說，因為相對於整個大型的產區，不管是在竹崎鄉或者是整個嘉義，跟全國三千多公頃的需求相比，這個只是很小的量體，如果小產區去跟人家申請、去談判的話，選擇上是弱勢。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:19:39.770000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:19:48.073000+08:00","text":"那有沒有可能有一個全國協調機制，用一個窗口來盤點各農會的需求總量，然後我們統籌來跟日方協商？","quality":0.884},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:19:48.734000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:19:56.478000+08:00","text":"這樣子的話，我們得到的品質也好，梨穗也好，會比較有好一點的妥協，或者應該說是談判的空間。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:19:56.478000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:20:04.322000+08:00","text":"我想我們的梨穗大概80%還是用我們國產的寶島甘露梨，1%的部分大概是從日本來的。","quality":0.829},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:20:05.242000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:20:21.293000+08:00","text":"我也了解小產區的議價或者是貨源的掌握會比大產區還小，特別是有時候梨穗要嫁接兩次，所以他也不敢買多，到時候多了也會賠錢，買少會不夠。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:20:21.293000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:20:22.293000+08:00","text":"對，沒錯。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:20:21.293000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:20:27.419000+08:00","text":"所以我現在就希望有一個媒合平臺，甚至於可以成立一個採穗的策略聯盟。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:20:28.240000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:20:37.249000+08:00","text":"每一年我們就針對不同地區的採穗大概是多少，然後有個調度平臺來處理，我想我會這樣做。","quality":0.868},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:20:37.249000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:20:38.249000+08:00","text":"太好了！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:20:37.869000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:20:43.656000+08:00","text":"部長，有沒有辦法給我們一個大概的時間表，就是什麼時候我們可以跟農民朋友說這個可能會出來？","quality":0.927},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:20:43.656000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:20:48.021000+08:00","text":"我們在明年度採購之前一定要完成。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:20:48.962000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:20:49.242000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝部長。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-04-29T12:20:49.242000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:20:52.245000+08:00","text":"那這個消息我們就跟竹崎的朋友，還有全部的鄉親講，謝謝！","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:20:52.745000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:20:53.745000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:20:54.045000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:20:57.473571+08:00","text":"謝謝陳冠廷委員，部長先回座。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:20:57.773571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:21:00.916429+08:00","text":"李彥秀、李彥秀、李彥秀不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:21:01.216429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:21:03.502143+08:00","text":"請郭昱晴委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}