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那我們大概什麼時候可以去完成這樣子的初步的盤點跟盤點知道哪些人有 哪些人沒有要如何督促他們做到村裡呢報告委員 我們用兩桌的時間兩桌的時間是不是 對好 那這樣子我們才有辦法討論那個KPI啦 好不好好 謝謝喔謝謝主席唉 不客氣 我腳都麻了"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:31:58+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:01.061500+08:00","text":"那我時間可以多一點嗎？","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:01.061500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:04.123000+08:00","text":"我儘量啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:04.123000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:04.825000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝主席。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:04.945000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:05.486000+08:00","text":"我們有請部長。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:05.486000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:05.587000+08:00","text":"請農業部陳部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:05.587000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:09.975000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:09.975000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:14.363000+08:00","text":"部長好！","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:14.363000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:17.865000+08:00","text":"我想我還是要跟你討論有關於動物用藥的問題。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:18.665000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:24.849000+08:00","text":"其實之前我們就有要求你們盤點救命藥跟常用藥，我知道目前已經盤點完成了。","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:25.769000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:33.153000+08:00","text":"我接下來就想要來請教部長，就是我們這個名單是不是可以再廣納各界的意見？","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:35.912000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:43.977000+08:00","text":"公告的藥品，我想我們除了技術上的確認以外，也會讓外界，特別是獸醫院，有哪一些常用藥沒有納入的……沒錯！","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:43.977000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:46.359000+08:00","text":"擔心會有缺漏啦！","quality":0.286},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:46.359000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:52.843000+08:00","text":"所以我們跟獸醫公會也會有一些密切的接觸。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:52.843000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:53.903000+08:00","text":"所以我們目前是跟獸醫公會……","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:53.903000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:54.903000+08:00","text":"全聯會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:32:53.903000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:32:59.567000+08:00","text":"跟全聯會都有討論這份清單，對不對？對。","quality":0.688},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:33:00.568000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:33:08.814000+08:00","text":"有關這個部分，因為野生動物救傷單位的狀況可能也會有點不一樣，是不是也可以邀請他們來表達意見？","quality":0.837},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:33:08.814000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:33:10.395000+08:00","text":"野灣這邊的意見是不是也可以一起來納入？","quality":0.722},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:33:11.896000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:33:17.100000+08:00","text":"您關心的野生動物的部分，我們現在有成立一個藥物的調度平臺。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:33:17.580000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:33:31.254000+08:00","text":"特別是針對偏鄉的野生動物，如果有一個比較好的調度平臺，讓他知道這個藥在哪邊有，我們會有一些比較完整的區位跟點位，讓他們了解來提取或是領用。好啊！","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:33:32.454000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:33:43.676000+08:00","text":"其實最主要是救命藥跟常用藥的概念上面，可能在都市的獸醫院跟偏鄉相對會不太一樣，所以才會希望這個名單是不是可以廣納大家的意見，這部分部長是願意的嘛？願意。","quality":0.873},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:33:44.777000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:33:48.257000+08:00","text":"再來就是我們目前分級管理的規劃進度是怎麼樣？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:33:48.257000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:33:51.238000+08:00","text":"因為目前好像還沒有清楚了解這個時程表是什麼。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:33:51.238000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:33:52.418000+08:00","text":"分級管理？對。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:33:55.119000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:33:56.519000+08:00","text":"還是誰可以來回復一下？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:33:56.519000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:33:58.438000+08:00","text":"我請組長來說明好了。","quality":0},{"speaker":"余組長俊明","start":"2026-04-29T12:33:58.438000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:34:11.861000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們在4月17號已經又有更新了，目前是有731個品項。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"余組長俊明","start":"2026-04-29T12:34:12.381000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:34:16.922000+08:00","text":"我們已經有發函給獸醫師全聯會，請全聯會就這個分級的部分提供意見，我們後面會……","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:34:17.202000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:34:20.223000+08:00","text":"預計什麼時候會產出一個比較初步的方案呢？","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"余組長俊明","start":"2026-04-29T12:34:20.863000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:34:24.823000+08:00","text":"我們是請全聯會在文到一週內。","quality":0.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mg就有反映不出貨了。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:34:42.573000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:34:51.378000+08:00","text":"現在其實是全聯會他們自己在內部有一些協調的機制，但如果還是沒有藥，還是會請防檢署再去找食藥署協調。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:34:51.498000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:34:58.622000+08:00","text":"我想問一下，因為現在他們告訴我們的是說大概還需要3到4天才能夠得到這個藥。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:35:00.343000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:35:04.385000+08:00","text":"剛剛部長有講你們有個藥物調度平臺，這個時間會再加速嗎？","quality":0.84},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:35:05.426000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:35:13.530000+08:00","text":"分兩個部分，就是你藥已經拿得到，但是我們在一個調度平臺裡面有藥，特別在偏鄉或急救的可以處理。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:35:14.190000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:35:18.952000+08:00","text":"另外一個議題就是有些廠商到目前為止還不大願意出貨，這是另外一個議題。","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:35:18.952000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:35:30.320000+08:00","text":"但是我們防檢署比較弱的是我們對藥商的管道比較薄弱，所以我們一方面會透過獸醫院，把我們的解釋函或相對的食藥署解釋函讓藥商再知道；另一方面……","quality":0.891},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:35:31.581000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:35:32.882000+08:00","text":"這部分是不是可以跟食藥署更緊密聯繫？","quality":0.471},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:35:32.882000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:35:34.023000+08:00","text":"因為食藥署對藥商比較了解嘛！對。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:35:34.023000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:35:43.210000+08:00","text":"第二方面，就是拜託食藥署再跟藥商溝通，因為他們的指令會比較有效啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:35:44.031000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:35:48.194000+08:00","text":"所以我們也會跟食藥署講，拜託他們再去跟藥商通知一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:35:49.175000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:36:01.158000+08:00","text":"但是我覺得防檢署的角色還是要強化，我們應該要更清楚地知道哪些藥出了問題，積極地跟食藥署溝通，請他們協助加速這個過程，因為現在還要3到4天，好不好？對。","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:36:02.118000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:36:17.203000+08:00","text":"過去的我們就不講了，現在我們把它認定為動物保護用藥就是由防檢署全權負責，所以我們會更積極地對這樣的藥物流向讓提供的廠商的清單更清楚。抱歉！","quality":0.908},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:36:17.724000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:36:18.945000+08:00","text":"主席，再給我一分鐘的時間。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:36:20.146000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:36:30.036000+08:00","text":"再來就是有關於遊蕩犬管理的部分，最近也還是接二連三有很多的公安事件，不管是婦人也好，或是小朋友掉到水溝裡面等等都還是有。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:36:30.596000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:36:39.682000+08:00","text":"其實我發現了一件事情，就是我們在管理的預算增加，可是點位也在增加，然後點位還有高度重疊的部分。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:36:40.122000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:36:42.143000+08:00","text":"如果現在的計畫有效，115年的點位應該不會跟113年重複啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:36:42.163000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:36:42.783000+08:00","text":"可是竟然還有229處是重疊的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:36:42.803000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:37:04.435000+08:00","text":"所以我想問一下，對於這個計畫的內容，到底有沒有確實地去檢討，不然怎麼會以前的熱區到現在還是熱區呢？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:37:06.998000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:37:13.656000+08:00","text":"第一個部分，我覺得熱區不一定是調查過它就不是熱區了。","quality":0.708},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:37:13.656000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:37:13.656000+08:00","text":"當然啊！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:37:14.017000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:37:16.739000+08:00","text":"但是問題是，如果你計畫都下去了，兩年之後它還是熱區？","quality":0.652},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:37:18.100000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:37:24.805000+08:00","text":"我覺得比較重要的是熱區裡面的遊蕩犬要怎麼樣讓它變成不是熱區，這才是重點。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:37:24.805000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:37:25.805000+08:00","text":"我也是啊！","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:37:25.805000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:37:26.805000+08:00","text":"問題是……","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:37:25.205000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:37:44.560000+08:00","text":"所以現在就是透過農再計畫，針對有關於動物福利跟遊蕩犬的措施，已經明列在農村再生計畫裡研提的時候來協助，這樣動保司就不會完全由它的系統去協助，也可以從農村再生的系統、農村計畫的系統去協助。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:37:46.582000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:37:56.310000+08:00","text":"雖然我們在農村再生計畫當中有要求不要餵食遊蕩犬，但是我還是要講，如果只有宣導，卻沒有查核點位的時候，我們還是很難知道到底有沒有。","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:37:56.890000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:37:58.932000+08:00","text":"我也會擔心他領了補助款，可是他繼續餵嘛！","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:37:59.292000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:37:59.893000+08:00","text":"對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:37:59.893000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:38:02.295000+08:00","text":"還是可能會有這樣子的問題，所以查核還是很重要。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:38:03.812000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:38:12.520000+08:00","text":"關於農村再生計畫，宣導是一件事情，它也會提供那個區位本身遊蕩犬的數量跟點位的相關資訊。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:38:13.916000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:38:15.757000+08:00","text":"會提供點位的資訊？對。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:38:15.757000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:38:21.180000+08:00","text":"那我們是不是可以有一些資料？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:38:21.701000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:38:39.998000+08:00","text":"雖然我們在1959上可以看到到底發生了哪些公安事件，那我們是不是可以針對這些……就是我們現在是用縣市來盤點這一區有哪些公安事件，那我們可不可以對應？","quality":0.831},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:38:39.998000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:38:49.010000+08:00","text":"因為你現在點位已經到村里了，那麼公共安全的數字是不是也可以對應到村里的數字，讓我們可以更清楚地知道這個地方到底有沒有實際地減少？","quality":0.836},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:38:51.173000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:38:55.735000+08:00","text":"第一個部分，如果它的資料來源已經有到村里，當然可以；但還有一些是沒有的。","quality":0.781},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:38:56.116000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:07.583000+08:00","text":"我們第一部分先通函給縣市政府，請他在統計的時候，能夠把確切的村里，甚至於社區都能夠把它掛上去，才能夠做統計。","quality":0.898},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:07.583000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:08.583000+08:00","text":"我想就是一致性啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:07.583000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:10.004000+08:00","text":"因為你現在是用村里來劃設嘛？對。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:10.004000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:14.687000+08:00","text":"那我們就一致性地都是用村里的方式，因為如果你一下用社區，一下用村里，我們就會很難比對啦！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:14.687000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:15.687000+08:00","text":"我知道。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:14.687000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:23.193000+08:00","text":"所以後續我們會先請動保司發函給地方，請他在調查的時候，一些基本欄位一定都要有。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:23.553000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:24.494000+08:00","text":"現在1959應該已經是到村里的啦！","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:24.494000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:25.494000+08:00","text":"我知道的是這樣的啊！","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:25.455000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:27.957000+08:00","text":"可是地方政府有的函報只到縣市而已哦！","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:28.617000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:28.738000+08:00","text":"沒關係！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:28.738000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:30.679000+08:00","text":"有村里的，我可不可以先知道我們有多少有縣市，哪些是……","quality":0.826},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:30.839000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:32.060000+08:00","text":"有村里的部分，我們可以先了解。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:32.180000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:35.183000+08:00","text":"先把資料調出來，因為我們還是要知道到底……因為熱區是熱區，但是有……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:35.563000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:38.492000+08:00","text":"如果資料有，我想我們可以馬上調啦！好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:39.772000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:48.755000+08:00","text":"大概什麼時候可以完成這樣的初步盤點，知道哪些人有、哪些人沒有，以及要如何督促他們做到村里呢？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"江司長文全","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:50.316000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:52.657000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們用兩週的時間。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:52.657000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:54.077000+08:00","text":"兩週的時間是不是？對。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:54.077000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:57.718000+08:00","text":"好，因為這樣子我們才有辦法討論KPI，好不好？謝謝。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:57.818000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:57.838000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:57.878000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:57.958000+08:00","text":"不客氣！","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:57.958000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:58.178000+08:00","text":"我腳都麻了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:39:58.678000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:39:59.820857+08:00","text":"主席很累。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:40:00.120857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:40:06.406571+08:00","text":"主席要作重要的宣告，請大家注意聽一下，這很重要哦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:40:06.706571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:40:13.563714+08:00","text":"登記發言委員除不在場者外，其餘均已發言完畢，詢答結束。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:40:13.863714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:40:20.149429+08:00","text":"委員陳超明、徐欣瑩所提書面質詢，列入紀錄，刊登公報。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:40:20.449429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:40:28.735143+08:00","text":"書面質詢未及答復部分，請相關單位一週之內以書面答復，並副知本會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-04-29T12:40:29.035143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-04-29T12:40:32.749429+08:00","text":"委員另有要求期限者，從其所定。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}