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一條就可以接到家科去"},{"start":445.643,"end":470.476,"text":"好 就這個嘉義科學園區連外的這個交通的問題我們來研究好 那麻煩次長那我是希望說因為現在有台37線橋下的一個研究案這個是在大南方計畫裡面的很重要的一個案那有沒有可能把這樣跟家科周邊的道路的一個改善可以納入在這個台37線的這個整體評估也許這樣時間"},{"start":472.177,"end":495.075,"text":"你再用一個新的案,可能會比較慢一點我們希望這件事大家要趕快好,我們要納在裡面一起討論好,就把它納在裡面一起來討論,好謝謝那接下來我還是要繼續講一個這個嘉義的另外一個就是我們嘉義的無人機的一個產業那我們也知道這幾年我們嘉義從我們翁章良縣長"},{"start":495.936,"end":514.082,"text":"那跟我們行政院這邊包括賴清德總統小美琴副總統那院長也都有到我們的無人機所謂太保的這一個這一個亞航這一個無人機的研發中心有多次來這邊去看整個無人機的產業那現在進駐在我們這一個"},{"start":517.343,"end":544.285,"text":"這一個無人機研發的中心也已經超過了50家的無人機企業未來整個無人機產業在嘉義的佈局除了我們講鋪子太保也就是現在的亞創中心之外在民雄的一個航太基地這個是由中科院來主導未來希望說整個無人機的生產可以以民雄的航太基地來做中心"},{"start":544.825,"end":573.451,"text":"那還有就是所謂無人機的試飛試飛的基地勒那可能就是會放在水上機場水上機場 那是金額的報酬我們現在當然第一勒 我們很歡樂的這次我們的特別預算針對這一個所謂無人機的一個飛鴻供應鏈甚至包括我們這一次所編列商購跟偽製的都被藍白國民黨跟民眾黨台灣抬去"},{"start":576.012,"end":588.079,"text":"砍了將近4千億超過4千億的預算這個對我們未來整個嘉義在做無人機的佈局可以說是一個重傷害所以這件事情讓我們嘉義整個無人機發展當然帶動嘉義整個產業的發展"},{"start":595.903,"end":623.836,"text":"這是一點 可是更重要的是國家 我們整個國防是需要這些無人機來強化我們的國防因為無人機是可以代替我們人民在戰場上保衛我們台灣這塊土地的啊所以院長 現在未來我們整個無人機的預算有沒有可能再用怎樣的方式來繼續強化整個無人機的投入呢是 謝謝蔡委員的支持"},{"start":625.812,"end":648.087,"text":"國防的特別預算跟特別條例三大部分其中現在被刪除沒有排列進去的這個就是國防相關產業自主發展的這個部分那其中最重要的當然就是無人機的產業其實無人機產業在我國雖然起步較慢但近年來發展迅速已經在民主供應鏈上取得相當的地位"},{"start":648.647,"end":669.934,"text":"那未來不論是軍規商用或是有更重大的需求的時候全世界都很仰賴台灣迅速發展這個產業我們也正逢其時有這個契機這可以成為台灣另外一個相當大的產業發展所以院長雖然這一次特別運算我們在投入整個無人載具及反制系統這個3,350億受到了他們這樣"},{"start":674.695,"end":703.067,"text":"不討論 都不討論的情況就把我們刪除這件事讓我們吃得更好一碗那我相信院長剛剛講我們未來台灣無人機產業仍然是我們整個行政院很重要的一個國防產業的方向是國防相關產業不能放棄所以這部分我們是要繼續加強那所以我還是講回到了剛剛我講的所謂嘉義無人機產業的布局那我們中間就看到了一個就是未來的水上機場他就是要用作於中大型的"},{"start":703.507,"end":720.232,"text":"非策場域那所以水上機場在整個無人機的發展就扮演了一個很重要的一個角色他所謂非策的一個跑道要借用水上機場那目前水上機場的構造呢他整個民航站"},{"start":722.506,"end":737.065,"text":"民航站在水上機場裡面站他的土地的比例啦大概只有一%所以民航站那裡很小而且他們也沒有幾乎是沒有自己可以這個停機棚啦 要放回去的地方就沒有"},{"start":737.966,"end":766.213,"text":"所以這件事看起來就是說未來如果無人機 中大型的無人機它的試飛的基地在水上機場但是它這裡沒有土地可以讓我們這些無人機可以放置可以有停機可以讓它放在地方你說 畢竟這些無人機在飛行的時候它有一些是尾辦所以它把它進入到第四聯隊整個是國防部的一個空間也是不適合的"},{"start":766.673,"end":789.285,"text":"所以有沒有可能基於我剛剛講的這樣的一個考量以目前嘉義的民航站它就是在水上的龍點路也就是靠近水上的北回歸線地標的地方它是現在的民航站基本上在這裡單是軍用的空間就已經不足了所以我們希望是不是可以在整個機場的東側東側這裡我們偵測"},{"start":795.63,"end":812.189,"text":"東偵測一個新的一個民航站給一個新的西側這裡啦原本東側的仍然是保留現在它的定位在於西側這邊你看我把它用紅線框起來的全部都是台塘的土地"},{"start":813.141,"end":841.267,"text":"這裡都是台湯的土地現在都要進去吃然後這樣的一個西側這裡你做一個新的民航站那裡有很大的空間可以做未來不管是無人載具中大型無人機的停機棚或者是我們進一步有沒有可能去爭取到一些新的國際航線現在我們這個機場只有這個包機包機的國際包機用未來有沒有可能爭取到新的一個國際航線"},{"start":843.047,"end":862.084,"text":"啊都要看這個新的西側的這個民航站的一個地點啊他們一樣就是特貴高通車一樣是在這個跑道機場的跑道所以不影響現在的跑道這個機場跑道的狀況只是在西側增加一個新的一個空間這個空間呢就可以把"},{"start":862.985,"end":880.053,"text":"軍用的跟民用的啦做一個分流然後這一個新的民航站有一個最大的好處是你看他就在中山高就在一高就在一高的旁邊離一高離一高咧大概只有兩分鐘然後到高鐵站咧到高鐵咧差不多只有七分鐘十分鐘不用搞"},{"start":883.494,"end":903.066,"text":"所以未來這一個民航站它會變成是一個距離高鐵全台灣距離高鐵最近的一個民航站這樣我們整個水上機場它對於地方的整個它的價值會完全被展現出來院長能夠支持我們未來朝向這樣的方向一起來努力嗎謝謝蔡委員對"},{"start":904.625,"end":919.531,"text":"這個機場的規劃也配合整個未來縣政的發展我們分兩個部分東側這個部分2027到2029年當中他會先完成新建的停車場以及新的航廈工程然後再拆除現有的航廈但是還是會保留這個東側"},{"start":920.771,"end":934.498,"text":"那西側這個部分因為他牽制到土地徵收還有跟軍方協調還有內部的規劃這個還要再重新的計這個規劃下去我請交通部跟國防部能夠去談未來增加一個再好謝謝蔡委員謝謝卓議長下一位請"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T10:59:02.559000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T10:59:08.082000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，是不是有請院長以及交通部次長？","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-12T10:59:08.082000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T10:59:09.223000+08:00","text":"請卓院長、交通部次長備詢。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T10:59:09.283000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T10:59:09.463000+08:00","text":"蔡委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T10:59:09.523000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T10:59:09.723000+08:00","text":"院長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T10:59:25.796000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T10:59:33.482000+08:00","text":"我想針對嘉義未來的交通狀況跟院長討論。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T10:59:34.243000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:00:23.208000+08:00","text":"首先，也是要先感謝院長，因為嘉義科學園區二期，在院長的協助之下，順利的環評通過，接下來台積電應該會在嘉義針對先進封裝CoWoS廠持續興建，所以未來從高鐵站到嘉義科學園區及高鐵周邊，在鐵道局招商的努力下，會在高鐵旁興建一座大型的outlet華泰名品城，這個outlet不是一棟建築物，它是仿照比較美式那一種很大且平面的outlet。","quality":0.877},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:00:24.609000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:00:38.215000+08:00","text":"我可以想像等到台積電完成建廠且順利投產之後，以及華泰名品城大概在2年後的冬天，就可以順利正式開幕了。","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:00:41.757000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:01:28.941000+08:00","text":"你可以想像未來從高鐵往故宮南院方向的中間是科學園區，也就是會有很多不管是台積電或者其他科技公司進駐；而往另外一側是我們知道的華泰outlet，就在簡報上地圖顯示的這一塊區域，所以你來看未來在高鐵站、科學園區及華泰outlet這裡一定會有很多人口，除了有遊客及上班族外，也因為嘉義縣政府在旁邊，會有必須前往縣政府上班的員工，且旁邊還有長庚醫院。","quality":0.801},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:01:34.583000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:01:50.947000+08:00","text":"事實上，嘉義是把很多重心發展都集中在這裡，不管是站在醫療、站在整個科技產業、站在行政中心，以及未來的消費中心，所以未來要面對的是這個地方的交通流量一定會非常的大。","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:01:52.247000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:02:11.824000+08:00","text":"我們現在都可以感受得到，走台37線，也就是高鐵的橋下道路，現在看起來這條台37線的車流量已經是過往的好幾倍了，所以已經開始感受到這裡的交通量能是不足的。","quality":0.851},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:02:13.467000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:02:39.144000+08:00","text":"我想要向院長提出一個建議，因應現在嘉義急迫的需求，台82線東西向快速道路有沒有可能增設一條新的支線，可以讓它直接連到高鐵站，甚至可以再往北一點，直接到嘉義科學園區？","quality":0.838},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:02:39.504000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:02:41.386000+08:00","text":"為什麼我會說必須要到嘉義科學園區呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:02:42.527000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:02:53.924000+08:00","text":"以竹科跟南科的經驗，竹科跟南科對外都有一條直接連接的聯絡道路，也就是高架連接的道路可以直接到科學園區。","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:02:55.266000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:03:17.851000+08:00","text":"我們在簡報上有列出來，像新竹科學園區在力行路就有一條高架道路；以南科而言，他們一樣有一條北環道的快速道路，園區的員工可以透過高架道路直接連到台82線東西向快速道路，迅速地將車流量能有紓解的效果。","quality":0.831},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:03:20.863000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:03:24.784000+08:00","text":"我想要把以上這些建議提供給院長，看院長能不能支持我們？","quality":0.72},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:03:24.784000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:03:38.828000+08:00","text":"因為現在整個嘉義正在發展的過程中，行政院也在這裡協助了很多，但是我們預見未來已經有這樣的需求存在，所以我們必須要預作準備。","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:03:39.088000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:03:42.729000+08:00","text":"院長是不是可以支持我們來興建這一條連接道路？","quality":0.619},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T11:03:43.289000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:03:44.750000+08:00","text":"好，非常謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T11:03:44.750000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:04:01.269000+08:00","text":"嘉義隊的整個團隊合作，過去這幾年已經把嘉義從一個農業的大縣，再加上科學園區，未來必定是一個農業科技大縣，而且它有非常好的觀光資源，再加上剛剛你提到有這種大型的商場，又會是一個商業活動頻繁的地方。","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T11:04:01.869000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:04:13.232000+08:00","text":"我們認為能夠把交通路線事先做好規劃，當然是必要的，而且未來科學園區的需求，整個貨運的吞吐量也會非常的大，所以這個部分也必須要完成。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T11:04:13.852000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:04:24.496000+08:00","text":"但是台82線連接嘉義高鐵站這條路線，將採用什麼方式通行，是橋下的或是用其他的方式？","quality":0.861},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T11:04:24.976000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:04:38.390000+08:00","text":"可能要請交通部再詳細規劃，雖然目前也有一些像鹿草交流道等等的通行，但如果橋下的部分能夠合理的規劃，應該會讓交通量更為舒暢。","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T11:04:39.070000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:04:41.112000+08:00","text":"針對這個部分，我會請交通部再來規劃。好。","quality":0.647},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:04:42.527000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:04:45.752000+08:00","text":"所以我聽院長這樣說，你對我們那邊應該很清楚，你知道鹿草交流道那邊……了解。","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:04:47.174000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:05:04.057000+08:00","text":"事實上，現在那邊的車流量已經開始有回堵的狀態了，所以站在時間上，我們真的會擔心嘉科一旦正式動起來，就是開始上班之後，交通量真的會增加很多。","quality":0.841},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2026-05-12T11:05:04.437000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:05:05.658000+08:00","text":"我跟委員補充一點就好。好。","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2026-05-12T11:05:06.239000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:05:17.467000+08:00","text":"委員特別提到嘉義科學園區的聯外交通，剛才講的高鐵橋下台37往臺南延的這一個部分，我們正在研究。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2026-05-12T11:05:18.028000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:05:28.808000+08:00","text":"另外，科學園區聯外的交通，我們會跟相關單位再來討論，對於聯外是不是有支線的可行性，我們一起來探討。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:05:29.288000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:05:42.993000+08:00","text":"次長，現在高鐵的台37線橋下道路，就是要從鹿草把它直接貫穿到南科，所以第一期可能會做新營這一段，這個沒有問題，因為這個會把南科跟嘉科串聯起來。","quality":0.921},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:05:42.993000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:06:16.790000+08:00","text":"但是未來有可能會塞車的地方是在嘉科到高鐵這一段，因為outlet、嘉科、高鐵這三個剛好連在一起，這裡又有遊客、又有上班族、又有其他的需求存在，沒有用高架路線直接貫穿高鐵、貫穿過嘉科的話，這個車流量想必未來是沒有辦法消化的，所以我們希望比照竹科、比照南科，直接有一條高架路段，直接就可以接到嘉科。","quality":0.782},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2026-05-12T11:06:18.003000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:06:22.826000+08:00","text":"就嘉義科學園區聯外的交通問題，我們來研究。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:06:23.326000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:06:24.947000+08:00","text":"好，那就麻煩次長。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:06:25.087000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:06:29.489000+08:00","text":"我是希望說，因為現在有台37線橋下的研究案嘛！","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:06:30.050000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:06:37.534000+08:00","text":"這是在大南方計畫裡面很重要的一個案子，有沒有可能把嘉科周邊道路的改善……","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2026-05-12T11:06:37.534000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T11:06:38.534000+08:00","text":"我一併討論。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:06:38.154000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:06:48.220000+08:00","text":"可以納入台37線的整體評估，也許這樣時間……你再用一個新的案子也許會比較慢，我希望這件事情要儘快。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2026-05-12T11:06:48.901000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:06:51.003000+08:00","text":"我們納在那裡面一起討論。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:06:51.003000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:06:54.365000+08:00","text":"好，就把它納在裡面一起來討論，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:06:54.686000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:07:02.632000+08:00","text":"接下來，我要繼續講嘉義的另外一部分，就是嘉義的無人機產業。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:07:02.812000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:07:22.541000+08:00","text":"我們也知道這幾年嘉義翁章梁縣長跟行政院，包括賴清德總統、蕭美琴副總統、院長，也都有到太保的亞航無人機研發中心……亞創。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:07:23.161000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:07:36.409000+08:00","text":"有多次來這邊看無人機的產業，現在進駐無人機研發中心也已經有超過50家無人機企業。","quality":0.972},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:07:36.409000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:08:06.927000+08:00","text":"未來整個無人機產業在嘉義的布局，除了我們講的朴子、太保，也就是現在在亞創中心之外，在民雄的航太基地是由中科院來主導，因為未來希望無人機的生產，可以以民雄的航太基地為中心，還有無人機試飛的基地可能會放在水上機場，這是整個的布局。","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:08:07.967000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:08:24.971000+08:00","text":"當然我們現在第一個很煩惱的是這次的特別預算，針對無人機的非紅供應鏈，甚至包括這一次所編列商購跟委製的部分，都被藍、白，即國民黨跟民眾黨砍掉了。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:08:28.012000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:08:37.758000+08:00","text":"砍了超過4,000億的預算，這對未來整個嘉義的無人機布局，可以說是一個重傷害啦！","quality":0.879},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:08:38.658000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:08:48.443000+08:00","text":"這件事情真的讓嘉義覺得未來整個無人機……因為無人機的發展，當然會帶動嘉義整個產業的發展，這是一點。","quality":0.705},{"speaker":"蔡委員易餘","start":"2026-05-12T11:08:48.443000+08:00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