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畢竟這些無人機在飛行的時候它有一些是尾辦所以它把它進入到第四聯隊整個是國防部的一個空間也是不適合的"},{"start":766.673,"end":789.285,"text":"所以有沒有可能基於我剛剛講的這樣的一個考量以目前嘉義的民航站它就是在水上的龍點路也就是靠近水上的北回歸線地標的地方它是現在的民航站基本上在這裡單是軍用的空間就已經不足了所以我們希望是不是可以在整個機場的東側東側這裡我們偵測"},{"start":795.63,"end":812.189,"text":"東偵測一個新的一個民航站給一個新的西側這裡啦原本東側的仍然是保留現在它的定位在於西側這邊你看我把它用紅線框起來的全部都是台塘的土地"},{"start":813.141,"end":841.267,"text":"這裡都是台湯的土地現在都要進去吃然後這樣的一個西側這裡你做一個新的民航站那裡有很大的空間可以做未來不管是無人載具中大型無人機的停機棚或者是我們進一步有沒有可能去爭取到一些新的國際航線現在我們這個機場只有這個包機包機的國際包機用未來有沒有可能爭取到新的一個國際航線"},{"start":843.047,"end":862.084,"text":"啊都要看這個新的西側的這個民航站的一個地點啊他們一樣就是特貴高通車一樣是在這個跑道機場的跑道所以不影響現在的跑道這個機場跑道的狀況只是在西側增加一個新的一個空間這個空間呢就可以把"},{"start":862.985,"end":880.053,"text":"軍用的跟民用的啦做一個分流然後這一個新的民航站有一個最大的好處是你看他就在中山高就在一高就在一高的旁邊離一高離一高咧大概只有兩分鐘然後到高鐵站咧到高鐵咧差不多只有七分鐘十分鐘不用搞"},{"start":883.494,"end":903.066,"text":"所以未來這一個民航站它會變成是一個距離高鐵全台灣距離高鐵最近的一個民航站這樣我們整個水上機場它對於地方的整個它的價值會完全被展現出來院長能夠支持我們未來朝向這樣的方向一起來努力嗎謝謝蔡委員對"},{"start":904.625,"end":919.531,"text":"這個機場的規劃也配合整個未來縣政的發展我們分兩個部分東側這個部分2027到2029年當中他會先完成新建的停車場以及新的航廈工程然後再拆除現有的航廈但是還是會保留這個東側"},{"start":920.771,"end":934.498,"text":"那西側這個部分因為他牽制到土地徵收還有跟軍方協調還有內部的規劃這個還要再重新的計這個規劃下去我請交通部跟國防部能夠去談未來增加一個再好謝謝蔡委員謝謝卓議長下一位請"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}