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運動幣等等還有客家幣等等成效非常好如果有助於推動兩個月內給本席一個正式的答覆可以嗎我們現在更希望把它整合成為一個生活的支付不要一個部會花一個幣整合起來更好兩個月內可以嗎兩個月內給一個正式答覆請數碼部來整合這個事情"},{"start":936.84,"end":939.106,"text":"好謝謝那最後多元衛星"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:51:06.285000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:51:09.467000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請行政院卓榮泰院長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-12T11:51:10.068000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:51:18.712000+08:00","text":"請卓院長備詢。","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T11:51:18.712000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T11:51:19.712000+08:00","text":"葛委員好。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:51:19.633000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:51:19.913000+08:00","text":"院長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:51:21.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:51:33.421000+08:00","text":"本席手上這個東西是1980年代最流行的時尚科技，這一支手機叫做「黑金剛」，院長有沒有曾經使用過黑金剛？","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T11:51:35.557000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:51:39.261000+08:00","text":"我沒有使用過這麼原始的。是啦！","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:51:39.961000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:51:49.631000+08:00","text":"院長都說了，這是屬於遠古時代的通訊設備，我們應該也知道現在臺灣不可能有人在用這樣的黑金剛。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:51:49.631000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:52:10.079000+08:00","text":"但是跟黑金剛相同年代的車輛法規，1988年聯合國歐洲經濟委員會通過的UNECE R79車輛法規，居然2025年才在臺灣全面強制施行！","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:52:10.900000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:52:12.762000+08:00","text":"院長，你可以想像嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:52:12.762000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:52:21.363000+08:00","text":"一個這麼原始的、這麼遠古的法規，臺灣竟然2025年才全面強制施行，這就像什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:52:21.363000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:52:32.749000+08:00","text":"假設政府採用一條法律規定，從今天開始全臺灣的民眾不准使用iPhone 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2駕駛輔助系統，目前交通部正在審查，臺灣預計要2032年才強制施行。","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:53:19.778000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:53:21.178000+08:00","text":"院長，沒有聽錯啊！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:53:21.178000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:53:23.739000+08:00","text":"落後其他的國家7年3個月。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:53:24.339000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:53:37.203000+08:00","text":"其他更先進的車輛法規R171第二部分、第三部分，根據交通部的答復，臺灣連什麼時候開始審法規都遙遙無期，不知道什麼時候才有機會施行！","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:53:38.003000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:53:56.200000+08:00","text":"另外，全球都已經跟進的level3自動駕駛等級的R157，聯合國2021年就已經公告了，臺灣則是最快要等到2031年才全面強制施行，到時候又再度比其他國家落後10年的時間。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:53:57.520000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:54:02.002000+08:00","text":"我非常感動院長現在立刻關心起來，為什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:54:02.002000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:54:16.590000+08:00","text":"因為您跟這件事情息息相關，您上個月出席「2026 Touch Taiwan系列展」開幕暨頒獎典禮的時候說，AI十大建設最終目的就是讓臺灣民眾看得到AI技術、用得到AI。","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:54:17.150000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:54:28.558000+08:00","text":"本席對院長的話十分認同，但是全球自駕技術的發展，我們一定要知道臺灣功不可沒，沒有臺灣、沒有自駕。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:54:28.558000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:54:45.812000+08:00","text":"根據報導，特斯拉下一代AI5、AI6的自駕核心晶片，也正由台積電3奈米、2奈米的先進製程代工，結果臺灣的民眾對於最先進的自駕技術卻看得到、用不到！","quality":0.984},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:54:46.593000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:54:58.639000+08:00","text":"自己做的晶片賣給全世界、讓它變得更方便，讓其他國家的人用，院長要如何向全國人民解釋，對於這些AI，我們不只看得到也用得到呢？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:54:59.359000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:55:03.521000+08:00","text":"我們國家對車輛法規的落後，政府難辭其咎！","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:55:04.061000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:55:28.353000+08:00","text":"院長，臺灣的法規不能在科技發展後面聲嘶力竭地追趕，我們一定要讓臺灣的民眾用到最新、最棒的科技，政府就要另闢蹊徑，打開法規的大門，讓臺灣的AI科技可以和其他先進國家齊頭並進，甚至領先，而不是永遠落後8到10年去審查這些法規！","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:55:28.353000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:55:39.643000+08:00","text":"我們的產業要成為領頭羊，國家的法規不應該扯後腿，就像院長說的，要讓臺灣民眾看得到AI技術，也要用得到AI技術，這才是AI內閣嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:55:41.125000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:56:15.494000+08:00","text":"本席辦公室對於這個議題已經多次和交通部以及民間團體進行討論，這邊提供院長兩個具體的解決方案：第一，荷蘭交通管理局（RDW）今年4月已經宣布批准特斯拉全自動駕駛監督版（FSD Supervised）可用於高速公路，使荷蘭成為歐洲首個開放此一功能的國家，RDW聲明表示，正確使用駕駛輔助系統有助於提升道路安全，而且這個系統會比其他同類系統更安全。","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:56:15.934000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:56:16.535000+08:00","text":"這是歐盟的說法！","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:56:17.727000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:56:28.232000+08:00","text":"而且按照歐盟的規定，對於荷蘭交通管理局的認證，其他歐盟會員國可以通過相互承認機制直接接受，而不需要再次進行審查。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:56:28.833000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:56:50.367000+08:00","text":"臺灣雖然不是歐盟會員國，但是從前面的法規整理，可以讓院長得知，臺灣目前在車輛的法規上高度、完全參採了歐盟UNECE的體系，我們要學歐盟，不只要學它的僵化而沒有彈性的部分，而是要跟著它一起前進。","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:56:50.367000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:57:14.362000+08:00","text":"荷蘭現在已經為全歐洲打開了一條快速通道，臺灣當然可以學，讓臺灣製造的晶片、讓臺灣人參與的技術也能上路，更何況臺灣的車安中心（VSCC）與荷蘭交通管理局（RDW）從2011年起就建立緊密的合作關係，這應該是一種雙向的互動。","quality":0.99},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:57:14.362000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:57:26.504000+08:00","text":"2012年簽署協議，車安中心可以代表RDW在臺執行「歐盟驗證品質一致性」的核驗，協助臺灣車輛產業取得輸歐的認證，這應該可以是雙向的。","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:57:26.704000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:57:32.446000+08:00","text":"雙方合作十年以上，RDW的認證臺灣理應可以直接採認，這是第一種方法。","quality":0.839},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:57:32.786000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:58:02.449000+08:00","text":"第二種方法是臺美在2026年2月正式簽署對等貿易協定（ART），據瞭解，當中也包含臺灣要採用美國FMVSS（聯邦機動車輛安全標準）的相關內容，這是一套自我認證（self-certification）制度，製造商自己提供FMVSS的證明文件，保留測試數據備查，直接上市，不需要政府事前審查。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:58:03.129000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:58:16.713000+08:00","text":"我們的鄰國早在2012年韓美FTA生效的時候就採納了FMVSS，並且在2025年11月12日正式讓FSD，也就是Full 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3的自駕技術，已經被荷蘭證實是安全的，而且還可以讓臺灣民眾更加降低交通風險。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:59:08.567000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:59:18.676000+08:00","text":"院長，我要跟您報告，2024年交通事故死亡總人數高達2,950人，平均每天超過8個人因為交通事故失去生命。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:59:19.336000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T11:59:47.780000+08:00","text":"院長，已經有數據了，開放FSD技術可以提升安全性7到9倍，降低85%的事故，每晚一天開放自駕科技，就有可能讓多達8個家庭失去他們的親人，晚一年開放自駕科技，就讓全國將近3,000人有可能平白喪命，因此這是一個人命關天的問題。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T11:59:47.780000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:00:05.795000+08:00","text":"具體想向院長提出建議，第一，採認荷蘭交通管理局（RDW）認證結果，批准特斯拉全自動駕駛監督版可於高速公路使用；另一個則是讓臺灣的車輛法規採用歐規、美規FMVSS自我認證制度的雙軌制。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:00:07.736000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:00:27.536000+08:00","text":"相信卓院長站在道路安全，保障人民性命的立場，一定會盡速研議，讓臺灣民眾可以和世界與其他國家同步，享用最先進的臺灣參與其中的交通科技，請院長可不可以當場承諾，將兩個具體建議帶回研議，一個月內給本席具體的答復？","quality":0.979},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:00:29.124000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:00:51.160000+08:00","text":"謝謝葛委員，剛剛一開始那段話，我覺得應該檢討的是我們跟國際的接軌竟然落後了這麼長久的時間，這個提醒我覺得我們都要非常的重視，我們現在國內level 2是可以在路上走的，level 2跟level 3應該有很大的進步，我們應該朝向更進步的發展，這個是不是有一些法規上……","quality":0.908},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:00:51.680000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:00:55.242000+08:00","text":"我們剛剛都整理好了，院長，我時間有限，一個月內研議好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:00:56.143000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:00:58.224000+08:00","text":"一個月內給本席具體答復，兩個方法都做好了。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:00:58.464000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:00:58.964000+08:00","text":"次長來說明一下癥結在哪裡，請次長說明問題在哪裡，我來決定。","quality":0.346},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:01.874000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:03.895000+08:00","text":"我們都非常清楚，也都溝通過了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:04.055000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:09.399000+08:00","text":"院長在此可不可以承諾一個月內給本席具體答復，跟交通部一起，可以嗎？","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:09.399000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:11.440000+08:00","text":"委員，我想在一個月內……","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:11.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:22.948000+08:00","text":"不好意思，次長，我沒有請你發言，我在這裡需要院長的承諾，我們不要再看到黑金剛的手機，我們要讓先進的交通科技上路，拜託院長可不可以一個月內具體承諾？","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:24.321000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:27.602000+08:00","text":"我要求交通部一個月把現在政府手上所有的資訊跟委員對……","quality":0.72},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:27.802000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:28.222000+08:00","text":"具體答復。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:28.602000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:29.803000+08:00","text":"跟委員對接，好不好？","quality":0.375},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:30.463000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:34.064000+08:00","text":"剛剛我們的兩個提議帶回去研議，一個月內具體答復。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:35.044000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:35.464000+08:00","text":"好，研議可以。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:35.864000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:39.845000+08:00","text":"跟委員對這個資料的內容，如果有更好的方式，我們共同來討論。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:39.845000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:49.328000+08:00","text":"好，我想院長您率領的AI內閣，也發展主權AI，我們看一下照片，你能否辨識這個照片背景的文字？","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:50.909000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:51.329000+08:00","text":"很清楚吧！","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:51.729000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:52.049000+08:00","text":"很清楚。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:01:53.186000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:01:59.431000+08:00","text":"「軍人節敬」，結果我們叫GPT把照片裡的文字讀一下結果呢？","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:02:00.352000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:02:01.233000+08:00","text":"它說的是什麼呢？","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:02:02.053000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:02:17.750000+08:00","text":"它說「華人幣敬」，華人的加密貨幣，更誇張的是GPT不認識卓榮泰院長，竟然還說他是林宜敬部長，而且還說部長曾和華人幣的加密貨幣項目有所連結。","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:02:17.750000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:02:24.557000+08:00","text":"其實就是我們的資料不足，才會造成AI不理解臺灣，我想院長應該非常清楚。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:02:25.726000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:02:34.813000+08:00","text":"為了臺灣的資料治理，數發部去年7月就預告了促進資料創新利用發展條例，去年10月31日提報到行政院。","quality":0.634},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:02:35.314000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:02:47.803000+08:00","text":"今年3月，院長還大動作召開記者會說是本會期的優先法案，結果產業無不翹首期盼，但是草案卡在行政院超過194天。","quality":0.587},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:02:48.423000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:02:53.948000+08:00","text":"請問院長，行政院版的促進資料創新利用發展條例，這個會期能不能送到立法院審查？","quality":0.629},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:02:55.179000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:02:57.501000+08:00","text":"我們列為優先法案，我們會照它的順序逐一向大院提出。","quality":0.609},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:02:58.662000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:03:01.485000+08:00","text":"所以就是能還是不能？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:03:03.046000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:03:03.446000+08:00","text":"有沒有信心？","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:03:04.380000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:03:05.981000+08:00","text":"我努力讓它成為……","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:03:05.981000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:03:08.002000+08:00","text":"好，我們跟部長一起努力，好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:03:08.222000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:03:08.963000+08:00","text":"這個會期送進來。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:03:08.963000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:03:21.630000+08:00","text":"院長，現在既然還在討論階段，我要跟院長報告這個草案有幾個爭議，第一個，預告版的草案34個條文，通篇18個都是「得」字，看不到政府的「應」啊！","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:03:22.791000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:03:33.697000+08:00","text":"我們看到「行政院得召開」；再來，「政府機關得建立」、「政府得鼓勵」，什麼都是「得」，要不要乾脆「為鼓勵」算了？","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:03:34.957000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:03:43.420000+08:00","text":"應該是「應」就要做，民間最期待的資料中介服務還只有一個條文，又是「得」、「政府得鼓勵」。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:03:43.420000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:03:47.161000+08:00","text":"請問我們的政府對於產業之間共享資料的規劃到底是什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:03:48.021000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:03:48.481000+08:00","text":"還有什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:03:48.961000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:03:59.824000+08:00","text":"我們很心心念念，看看政府可不可以去談因應主權AI來認購民間的資料，結果沒有，我們看到的是什麼？","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:03:59.824000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:04:12.808000+08:00","text":"政府不談民間資料的交易，倒是預告版第二十五條提到「政府機關將政府資料作為共享資料提供利用，得收取費用；其收費標準，由各政府機關定之。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:04:13.549000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:04:16.950000+08:00","text":"」替政府販賣資料牟利，留下法源依據。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:04:17.770000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:04:28.477000+08:00","text":"歐盟的開放資料第六條明確規定，收費原則要採邊際成本為原則，現在我們這個草案完全背離世界的趨勢。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:04:28.477000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:04:39.645000+08:00","text":"我想要利用今天總質詢的機會，向院長提出以上的建議，能不能重新來討論，把這些爭議移除掉，才能夠加速發展我們的主權AI，可以嗎？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:04:40.245000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:04:53.129000+08:00","text":"法案預告的功能就是在聽取各界的意見，委員整理出來這個意見如果能夠詳細的交付過來，我想部在檢討的時候，部長、部裡面還有我們政委都會認真來討論。","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:04:53.129000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:05:58.882000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝院長，還有一個議題跟AI平權有關，臺灣使用免費AI的比例高於七成，我們要非常感謝教育部長推動了館館有AI的政策，在本席積極爭取之下，教育部直屬的圖書館會有5台電腦付費購買使用ChatGPT、Claude或Gemini等等的服務，但這只是第一步，本席多次向教育部爭取比照文化部發放文化幣促進文化近用平權政策，請教育部提出研議，結果教育部說這個非常重要，應該要發放，建議AI幣由AI權管部會數發部辦理，現在數發部林部長也在場，院長，今天能不能當場承諾，由行政院邀集相關部會研議發放AI幣，或要叫數位幣、數發幣都可以，讓更多年輕人、更多產業可以體驗數位新的AI付費服務，院長能不能兩個月內給本席一個正式答復，可以嗎？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:05:58.882000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:07.409000+08:00","text":"依照我們過去發展各種文化幣、運動幣還有客家幣等等，成效都非常好，如果有助於推動，我們當然願意來研究。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:07.409000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:08.870000+08:00","text":"好，兩個月內給本席一個正式答復，可以嗎？","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:08.870000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:15.215000+08:00","text":"我們現在更希望把它整合成為一個生活的支付，不要一個部會發一個幣，整合起來會更好。","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:15.296000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:16.416000+08:00","text":"好，兩個月內可以嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:16.416000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:17.377000+08:00","text":"兩個月內給一個正式答復？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:18.338000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:19.099000+08:00","text":"請數發部來整合這個事情。是。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:19.840000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:20.422000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:20.702000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:22.086000+08:00","text":"最後，多元衛星，我們也希望院長支持，好不好？","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"葛委員如鈞","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:22.586000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:25.157429+08:00","text":"我們一起來努力，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:25.457429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:27.171714+08:00","text":"探索太空，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:27.471714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:30.328857+08:00","text":"謝謝葛委員，謝謝卓院長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:30.628857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:39.200286+08:00","text":"許智傑委員之質詢以書面提出，請行政院書面答復，並列入紀錄，刊登公報。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:39.500286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:46.357429+08:00","text":"一、國道七號準時動工完工，以符合我國南部地區國人期待。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:46.657429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:06:52.943143+08:00","text":"國道7號自通過環評以來，地方鄉親與產業界寄予厚望。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:06:53.243143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:07:06.957429+08:00","text":"此工程不僅是解決小港、大寮地區大小車混流、提升用路安全的「救命線」，更是高雄港洲際貨櫃中心最重要的聯外動脈。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:07:07.257429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:07:22.971714+08:00","text":"目前雖已進入設計與用地取得階段，但面對2030完工的目標，因地價上漲及補償條例修正，用地費暴增143.8億元，總經費逾1500億元，可能面臨延宕。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:07:23.271714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:07:35.271714+08:00","text":"為可解決國道1號塞車、長短途混流，常態壅塞解決貨櫃車問題，以及緩解未來港區貨運量暴增最高成長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:07:35.571714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:07:43.286000+08:00","text":"然115年開始全面招標分6大工程標案，目前第5、6標流標（小港及臨海路段）。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:07:43.586000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:07:52.443143+08:00","text":"面對現在南部營造成本每年5-10%的漲幅，目前的預算額度是否不具備吸引力？","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:07:52.743143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:08:23.314571+08:00","text":"為符合南部地區國人期待，高雄港洲際貨運需求與S廊帶交通迫在眉睫，國道7號應準時動工完工，然面對當前營造成本飆漲與土地權益意識抬頭，工程啟動可能有所變故，建請交通部，研擬土地徵收以及流標問題堆動計劃，給高雄市民一條安全、便捷的國道動脈。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:08:23.614571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:08:33.043143+08:00","text":"二、高雄─屏東間東西向第二快速公路，針對生態環境及農地保護再次完整評估。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:08:33.343143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:08:38.200286+08:00","text":"「南高屏不是三個城市，而是同一個生活圈」。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:08:38.500286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:08:45.643143+08:00","text":"高屏二快不僅是屏東的期盼，更是高雄產業轉型的交通命脈。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:08:45.943143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:08:59.943143+08:00","text":"本席主張高屏二快應加強與高雄市區及台積電楠梓園區的聯結，不僅加速建設更要完整評估，作為地方通行替代道路。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:09:00.243143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:09:15.386000+08:00","text":"現規劃方案，避開密集聚落，減少建物拆遷串聯國1、國7、國10及國3，更服務「南部S廊帶」半導體產業，行政院於114年9月22日已核定，預計115年底開工。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:09:15.686000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:09:35.400286+08:00","text":"綜合規畫階段，配合高雄市政府提供圖資及相關單位意見，及確保高雄市民眾用水安全，採迴避205兵工廠遷建後營區範圍、攔河堰蓄水範圍及自來水取水口一定距離範圍。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:09:35.700286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:09:42.843143+08:00","text":"然北移修正後避開營區，卻涉及大樹區丘陵地及水源保護區。","quality":0},{"speaker":"委員許智傑書面質詢","start":"2026-05-12T12:09:43.143143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:10:04.571714+08:00","text":"然針對核定規劃方案，在地居民擔心施工環境影響，破壞水土影響農作、工程延宕經費暴增，本席建請交通部針對高屏二快，提出現行規劃方案說明計畫，讓高雄、屏東居民獲得應有權益。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-12T12:10:04.871714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-12T12:10:08.014571+08:00","text":"下一位請邱若華委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}