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其實針對這部分當然高工局當時的解決因的方式他就是把平面道路路肩在巔峰時期來讓大家能夠行走這個路肩但是我覺得這只是暫時性的"},{"start":689.187,"end":716.273,"text":"因為路肩他畢竟是要給救護車跟警察做這個救護跟維護安全的來使用那如果長期使用路肩畢竟不是長久之計所以我們希望這個趕快能夠來完成那而且我們當初這個陽梅休息站其實針對運安會所做的報告其實他有講事故路段道路工程相關的現況有部分與法規建議值與原設計規範不一樣而且"},{"start":718.513,"end":738.549,"text":"他特別有講,他說這個其實高攻擊在設計上面是有一些問題的不知道部長針對這部分有什麼看法雲南匯的報告裡面他寫的第一項跟第二項最主要的是兩個一個就是說他用輔助駕駛的部分這個是他寫的最主要的原因之一"},{"start":738.949,"end":757.844,"text":"那另外一個最主要的原因就是上面所寫的就是說駕駛嚴重超速的這個問題那我們其實也有分析過之前所發生的這些案例為什麼我們會去改是因為很多的車子確實在那個路段使用輔助駕駛他會判別不出來因為我們的社會可能都誤解成"},{"start":758.624,"end":777.878,"text":"輔助駕駛是自動駕駛所以把它當作自動駕駛在使用在之前的路段確實會有相當高的危險現在我們也不斷在宣導說輔助駕駛它是有極限的大家還是要自己注意安全所以運安會其實跟委員報告如果您有仔細看它當時報告的內容主因是輔助駕駛"},{"start":778.858,"end":804.325,"text":"跟嚴重超速的部分這個部分其實我們也不斷在宣導另外您在提的設計規範的部分其實都是符合規範以內但是我們現在又把它做更好的修正跟改善讓它改善得更好現在的狀況委員應該也很清楚因為那是您的選區現在的車禍的狀況已經降低相當多會撞到分隔島的狀況也降低相當多了"},{"start":805.014,"end":830.516,"text":"那這一部分當然其實我覺得我們還是尊重運安會的報告其實他對於說這陽梅休息站設計上真的是有問題所以後來才會去因應做一些改善標線這個過程他改善標線之後可是沒有想到造成我們五陽高架開始嚴重的回堵那後來也因為陽投道路拖寬工程"},{"start":830.936,"end":855.657,"text":"也做了一些圍籬那我們當初是想說寄望這個工程趕快施作解決但是現在看起來一直流標所以其實這個陽梅休息站我相信部長也知道他的前身其實是收費站他不是一個真正的休息不是真正的休息站所以他改了之後其實有很多的設計他本來就不是依休息站去做設計所以後來也難怪運安會"},{"start":859.281,"end":874.518,"text":"做出這個設計不良這個報告那我們現在是希望能夠解決這個塞車的問題不然你一直流標然後又用平面走路間根本不是長久之計所以後面還有些"},{"start":875.379,"end":903.126,"text":"地方人士甚至建議如果說真的因運長久之際看陽梅休息站是不是可以廢除不然我們現在陽投我們南入的部分也找不到閘道而且這個休息站因為配合這個休息站又造成塞車又這麼多嚴重的死亡車禍所以我覺得下面20公里10分鐘的路程就有一個湖口休息站其實這個陽梅休息站這廢除其實是可以考慮的"},{"start":904.796,"end":927.277,"text":"那希望這部分今天提出就是希望能夠院長跟部長好好幫我們思量一下不然這個塞車的問題沒辦法解決又一直流標然後而且這個設計上我是覺得造成這麼多死亡車禍應該我們是要好好的注意謝謝委員這個新竹段的塞車兩年前我們跟"},{"start":946.367,"end":946.787,"text":"好謝謝謝謝圖委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:31:58.703000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:32:02.586000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，請卓院長及陳世凱部長。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-15T14:32:03.326000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:32:04.447000+08:00","text":"請卓院長及陳部長備詢。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-15T14:32:04.667000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:32:14.913000+08:00","text":"涂委員好。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:32:15.974000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:32:17.094000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝院長、部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:32:18.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:32:33.305000+08:00","text":"院長，在5月12號（禮拜二）我有看了一下邱若華委員的質詢，院長有回復，針對桃園的重大建設，你說不會因為顏色的關係而給桃園重大建設差別待遇。當然。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:32:34.306000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:32:40.811000+08:00","text":"桃竹苗大矽谷當中的交通建設會影響未來整個產業發展、觀光需求，院長當時有講這個話。是的。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:32:43.193000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:32:46.657000+08:00","text":"當然我們也給院長一個正面的肯定。","quality":1},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-15T14:32:47.218000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:32:47.779000+08:00","text":"大家一起努力。","quality":1},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:32:49.301000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:32:53.346000+08:00","text":"對，我們現在也針對國道專案、國道7號，國道7號在高雄，院長、部長知道？是。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:32:59.454000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:33:23.333000+08:00","text":"針對這部分，行政院在112年核定，115年正式施工，中央也撥付了615億，全線都在高雄市境內，北起鳥松、南至林園，成功連結高雄港跟臨海大發、林園工業區。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:33:23.673000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:33:43.446000+08:00","text":"我們覺得這個決定也是非常好，因為高雄港是我們國家的重要門戶，這條路紓解了國道跟省道的車潮，也大幅分流大貨車，以及減少道路大小車混流的問題，重點是它支撐了南部半導體S廊帶的戰略動脈。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:33:47.230000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:33:54.582000+08:00","text":"對於具有重大經濟戰略意義的道路，國家當然以功能與貢獻為導向，這部分院長、部長應該認同嘛？是。","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:34:01.041000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:34:32.197000+08:00","text":"針對這部分，我們也跟院長提一下，同樣是國家戰略級的桃竹苗大矽谷計畫，這也是國發會發起的，目前針對交通路網的串聯有規劃環城西路快速道路，它串聯桃園航空城、龍潭及竹南園區，可以提升物流效率，構建一個具國際競爭力的科技創新走廊。","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:34:33.178000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:34:51.190000+08:00","text":"未來桃園新屋、龍潭也要增加1,022公頃產業用地，而且龍潭很有可能會開發算力中心，連接亞洲矽谷3.0計畫，產值可以達到6兆，並增加14萬個就業機會。","quality":0.898},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:34:51.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:34:52.651000+08:00","text":"針對這些經濟價值還有重要性，院長應該也認同嘛？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"卓院長榮泰","start":"2026-05-15T14:35:02.144000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:35:14.500000+08:00","text":"對於地方產業的需求，我們都希望交通建設能夠先一步施作完成，對產業產生吸引力，對於後續發展起來的產業未來也才能夠有量能順利地來輸送。","quality":0.77},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:35:16.435000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-15T14:35:56.003000+08:00","text":"對，因為現在其實我們周邊很多工業區，當然針對桃竹苗大矽谷計畫我們地方也會配合中央，關於現在我們這個路段，像台61線本身大貨車就進出頻繁，而且我們現在所有東西向的路線都要銜接台61線，所以如果要因應桃竹苗大矽谷計畫，我們勢必要再興建另外一條南北向的公路來紓解台61線，所以這個環城西路快速道路就這樣子因應而生。","quality":0.878},{"speaker":"涂委員權吉","start":"2026-05-15T14:35:57.004000+08:00","g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