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謝謝今天要審你們預算希望待會在審預算的時候能夠好好的把一些數據提供給我我希望審預算之前能夠解決要不然我又要等明年了我們的族人的權益不能夠等到明年尤其是部長尤其是殯葬事業我們往生者他不能夠永遠沒有地方讓他安息啊對吧好 謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:27:27.441000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:27:27.543000+08:00","text":"謝謝召委，有請劉部長。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-05-18T10:27:27.543000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-18T10:27:34.065000+08:00","text":"高金委員早。","quality":0},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:27:34.065000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:27:34.365000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:27:35.226000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:27:47.192000+08:00","text":"今天我們要審你們的預算，所以我必須就去年我審你們預算的時候提出的幾個附帶決議或者是主決議，來跟你就教一下，看看你們解決了問題沒有。是。","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:27:50.093000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:28:00.859000+08:00","text":"當時我們提了非常多的案子，第一個是秘密投票、不在籍投票還有原鄉殯葬的議題，你們是不是能夠簡短地回答一下具體改善的狀況？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-05-18T10:28:04.914000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:28:16.747000+08:00","text":"有關秘密投票的部分，其實我們在三個月內提出報告的時候，也有送到委員的辦公室，這個可能會涉及公職人員選罷法規範的問題。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-05-18T10:28:18.529000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:28:37.496000+08:00","text":"第二個，有關於不在籍投票的部分也是一樣，我們希望首先適用於公民投票，至於牽涉到公職選舉、罷免，目前為止，尤其是在山地原鄉部落會比較困擾一點，因為我們怕會影響到秘密投票的本質。","quality":0.975},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:28:40.017000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:28:45.479000+08:00","text":"好，這兩個部分請部長也加速一下你們的進度。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:28:45.980000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:29:05.370000+08:00","text":"據我了解，在秘密投票的部分，你們曾經承諾過我去年會改善，但是你們一直到今年3月才發文到地方上要來處理這件事情，所以並沒有非常積極地要處理。","quality":0.937},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:29:05.671000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:29:17.481000+08:00","text":"第二個就是不在籍投票，你們更離譜了，你們給我辦公室的資料是，你們所謂的進度居然是我在前年的時候召開公聽會的紀錄。","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:29:17.481000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:29:27.271000+08:00","text":"所以這兩個請部長了解一下，希望不要因為今天審預算，你們才來這邊草草地應付我。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:29:28.371000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:29:31.892000+08:00","text":"關於原鄉殯葬的議題，其實部長一上任的時候我們就討論過了，我們都知道原鄉殯葬的議題有非常多問題，譬如說有種種環評、水保的問題。","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:29:32.012000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:29:32.712000+08:00","text":"您應該還記得我當時就希望你們就殯葬這個問題的預算能夠延後，部長也答應我了。","quality":0.543},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:29:32.712000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-18T10:29:54.664000+08:00","text":"我知道你們最近要提出新的計畫，但是我請部會給我新計畫資料的時候，你們說行政院還沒有核准，所以不能夠給我看。","quality":0.061},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:29:54.664000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-18T10:30:16.616000+08:00","text":"部長，我要請教您的是，在你們提的新期計畫裡面，到底有沒有解決原住民長期面對的殯葬問題、我剛剛說的種種水保問題，還有所謂的環評問題？","quality":0},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:30:16.616000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:30:18.978000+08:00","text":"有沒有要試圖解決？","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-05-18T10:30:18.978000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:30:22.762000+08:00","text":"有關環評部分的標準，是不是等一下請司長跟您報告？","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-05-18T10:30:23.283000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:30:39.367000+08:00","text":"但是委員在關心有關殯葬相關預算的部分，確實沒有錯，我們已經提報到行政院，目前所編列的經費大概是1億4,000萬左右。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:30:39.707000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:30:45.751000+08:00","text":"如果我們地方上還碰到種種環評跟水保的問題，還能不能夠延後？","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-05-18T10:30:46.872000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:30:53.376000+08:00","text":"我們現在有根據114年修正的部分、認定的標準，我請司長跟您報告，一共有四項。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:30:54.517000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:30:56.860000+08:00","text":"能不能到時候提供這個資料給我？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:30:57.380000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:31:00.424000+08:00","text":"我很遺憾的是，要審預算的時候你們才給我這個資料。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:31:01.065000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:31:04.369000+08:00","text":"事實上，我請內政部前幾天到我辦公室來了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林司長振祿","start":"2026-05-18T10:31:05.130000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:31:05.130000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員關心。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:31:05.130000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:31:07.052000+08:00","text":"你們並沒有說明，我沒有那麼多時間，我還有其他的問題，待會審預算的時候一併告訴我，好不好？好。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:31:13.040000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:31:43.111000+08:00","text":"部長，我們去年推動修正地方制度法第八十三條之七，其實目的很簡單，就是在山地鄉裡面，當所屬縣市升格為直轄市以後，我們叫做山地區，我們最近確實看到有增加，譬如烏來增加了6,000萬，復興區增加了8,000萬，和平區增加了600萬，茂林區增加了1,000萬，桃園區增加3,000萬，那瑪夏增加2,000萬，統統合計起來是2億。","quality":0.787},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:31:43.932000+08:00","guessed"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我們有跟高雄市政府工務局長溝通，已經有溝通了，但是他還要再送議會，還有相關的程序。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:34:10.927000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:34:19.957000+08:00","text":"部長以前曾經是高雄市政府的副市長，如果你這裡溝通不了，是不是請我們的部長能夠去溝通一下？謝謝。好。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:34:19.957000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:34:22.640000+08:00","text":"最後我要關心的是都會區原住民的居住權。","quality":1},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:34:24.181000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:34:48.988000+08:00","text":"今年住宅法修正的時候我有提出一個附帶決議，當時我要求國土署跟原民會你們一定要協商，以參建的方式換取提高一定的比例給原住民的承租戶，其實簡單講起來就是我們的社宅應該要有更多的原住民戶數。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:34:48.988000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:34:50.989000+08:00","text":"請問一下部長，你們有按照我的附帶決議進行嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-18T10:34:56.070000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:35:08.814000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，這個部分有照委員的要求，我們有跟原民會等等開過會，目前也有照計畫，原民會也有規劃參建哪一些地方。","quality":0.98},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:35:09.274000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:35:10.695000+08:00","text":"目前有哪幾個地方？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-18T10:35:12.675000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:35:16.217000+08:00","text":"桃園跟新北已經有一些案件要參建。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:35:16.217000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:35:22.599000+08:00","text":"所以您的意思是說，桃園跟新北這兩個直轄市都有提出計畫，是不是？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-18T10:35:23.178000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:35:24.499000+08:00","text":"就是經過原民會這邊評估。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:35:24.820000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:35:27.122000+08:00","text":"是原民會評估的？對。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:35:27.442000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:35:29.684000+08:00","text":"你知道為什麼原民會評估這兩個地方嗎？","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-18T10:35:29.684000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:35:32.206000+08:00","text":"我們提供這個位置給原民會。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:35:32.426000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:35:40.954000+08:00","text":"好，那您知道桃園市政府……桃園市是現在全臺灣有最高比例原住民人口數的地方，您知道嗎？","quality":0.892},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:35:43.215000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:36:09.868000+08:00","text":"不知道，好，我現在提醒您，如果原民會提供這兩個，本席建議應該是原住民人口數最多的地方，這是第一點；第二點，應該要以這個縣市政府的首長或者是議員他們有沒有積極配合，如果原民會一直提這兩個，而這兩個都沒有積極配合，或者是桃園市比較積極配合，但是原民會不想，有沒有可能就不願意了呢？","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:36:09.969000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:36:10.329000+08:00","text":"有沒有可能這樣子呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-18T10:36:14.293000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:36:18.698000+08:00","text":"這個部分在整個住宅政策裡面，我們還是會儘量去協助溝通。","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:36:19.078000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:36:19.218000+08:00","text":"好不好？好。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:36:20.560000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:36:29.789000+08:00","text":"我們真的希望有幾個原則性，第一個就是原住民人口數最多的地方，因為這畢竟是解決都會原住民住的問題，對吧？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:36:30.630000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:36:35.074000+08:00","text":"第二個就是要以縣市政府到底積極度如何。","quality":1},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:36:37.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:36:48.182000+08:00","text":"就我目前了解，桃園市政府的議員、桃園市政府也非常願意積極配合，所以我們是不是可以排一下會勘，我們一起去看看？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:36:48.702000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:36:54.586000+08:00","text":"如果大家都認為可以的話，我們就趕快讓這件事情上路，好嗎？好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:36:55.407000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:36:55.407000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:36:55.407000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:37:01.271000+08:00","text":"今天要審你們的預算，希望待會在審預算的時候，能夠好好地把一些數據提供給我。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:37:01.791000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:37:09.837000+08:00","text":"我希望審預算之前能夠解決，要不然我又要等明年了，我們族人的權益不能夠等到明年。","quality":1},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-18T10:37:11.038000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-18T10:37:19.683000+08:00","text":"部長，尤其是殯葬事業，我們往生者不能夠永遠沒有地方讓他安息，對吧？謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-18T10:37:20.183000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-18T10:37:22.468714+08:00","text":"謝謝高金素梅委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-18T10:37:22.768714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-18T10:37:25.911571+08:00","text":"丁學忠委員改提書面質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-18T10:37:26.211571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-18T10:37:30.211571+08:00","text":"接下來我們請黃捷委員進行詢答。","quality":0}]}},"supported_rela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