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好好好來"},{"start":185.12,"end":211.825,"text":"委員長跟我們報告那個比較靠近麥克風一下好不好因為這個政策細節的部分還沒有可能還是要等行政院或者是那個主管機關衛福部這邊宣布啦我們這邊目前是不是啊那我以為你要回答我一個什麼具體的一個數字出來如果沒有你就不用上來了啊我們手邊可能好謝謝謝謝我以為你要回答了好來然後跟這個財政部比較有相關的因為昨天這個院長有提到"},{"start":212.906,"end":221.166,"text":"有可能這個會有住宅減稅的優惠會推出育嬰住宅減稅優惠有這部分嗎"},{"start":225.146,"end":246.113,"text":"昨天院長有提到就是相關的一些方向但是整體還需要再經過細部討論而近期會跟各位做一個整體性的一個報告包含生育、養育到教育然後這裡面有一些有關減負擔、征服力跟對所以我就問跟財政部有相關的嘛跟財政部有相關就是稅啊"},{"start":247.614,"end":272.25,"text":"所以是有提到說育嬰住宅有減稅你如果家中有養育幼兒的家庭我們會提供育嬰宅的房屋稅跟地價稅的階段性的減免優惠有這個方向在有這個方向在討論是的有這個方向在討論那下禮拜會出來嗎因為我看院長是說下禮拜四院會會公布對我想院長講的是也按照院長說的是"},{"start":273.431,"end":289.95,"text":"對 那所以是有這個方向就對了嘛對 有這個方向就是房屋稅跟地價稅會有階段性的減免的優惠是是這是確定的是一個研議的方向 對研議的方向最後的我們會做這個最後願意但是確定有這個政策就對了會有這個研議的方向 是的"},{"start":290.87,"end":311.24,"text":"那有沒有這個幼兒學嫌特別扣除額再提高幼兒學嫌特別扣除額因為113年是調整已經是第一胎是四五萬那第二三胎是加碼我想這個部分目前來說已經都在試用當中了我知道啦 我意思是說有沒有在這個提高幼兒學嫌特別扣除額"},{"start":312.4,"end":340.014,"text":"這個部分因為是透過其他的方式我剛剛跟委員報告就是有一些補助補貼等等其他方式並不是以這樣的一個方式來推動所以不是從這個不是以這個方向來推動不是以這個方向那是怎麼樣的方向你剛剛也提到每個孩子多少錢就是在育兒家庭裡面政府會給多少那個是我說0到18歲每個月五千塊的那個也是一個方式也是一個方式是一個方式 對好 那請教一下"},{"start":340.934,"end":347.761,"text":"在目前我們有幼兒學前扣除額,我們也有教育學費扣除額,這18歲之後的。然後我們6歲以上到未滿18歲,這段期間我們沒有特別扣除額,對不對?"},{"start":358.854,"end":376.148,"text":"她有免稅額9萬8嘛對不對沒有特別的控訴額嘛那有沒有機會把這段補上去因為這個我們也跟總統討論過其實這一段也可以希望把它補上去那不曉得財政部的這個想法規劃如何因為之前好像你們都不同意嘛"},{"start":376.788,"end":392.78,"text":"委員您的提議也是我們研議的方向研議的方向那有可能就是說在這一個七歲到十八歲的國小、國中、高中的這個階段也會有一個特別扣除的就對了我想到時候院長會做整體的我們會院裡面會有整體的一個方案裡面會"},{"start":396.042,"end":413.845,"text":"會提出來會提出相關的從各個階段裡面不同的方式沒有啦我又特別你不要用包山包海我就是問這個啦對嘛我想到時候會整體的報告就是說有關這方面的會在特別控訴會再提出來就對了會做整體的報告行政院會做整體的報告要含這一塊就對了"},{"start":415.728,"end":442.949,"text":"對不對我想報告的時候這是一個方向是一個方向好對啊因為我們就是要問一些比較具體的有比較包山包海包山包海我也不曉得是包到哪一項去了好那這個那這部分我再請教一下因為今天來了很多的公股的行庫啦那其實我要特別講說在兆豐銀行這方面他們對於這個育嬰的這個政策其實做得很不錯不曉得部長知不知道他們的產價"},{"start":447.333,"end":469.659,"text":"這個產檢價有8天高於這個法令7天多1天賠產價呢這個賠產檢跟賠產價有8天也是多1天然後呢產後呢有這個42個工作日休息那法令呢是8週40個工作天然後還有相關的這個育兒補助第一胎12萬第二胎15萬第三胎18萬等等"},{"start":470.879,"end":491.699,"text":"就是宮古銀行裡面我想大家都想做到更好因為現在總統有這個宣誓就是希望說我們要照顧這個幼兒我們希望提供好的環境讓我們想結婚的結婚結婚之後能夠生小孩那宮古銀行這邊是不是能夠來帶頭做個示範"},{"start":494.366,"end":513.987,"text":"我剛才講了一些育兒的福利政策我想育兒的部分就是職場的友善環境是很重要的那我們的工作同仁才能夠願意結婚、願意生、願意養那這個部分呢在這一次的整體戰略裡面也是一個非常大的一個重點我想勞動部的部分已經也有相關舉止的方案會提出來那這個部分"},{"start":517.23,"end":527.617,"text":"可以帶頭做示範的啊當然第一個在法令的部分 勞動部那邊會去做調整那公國航庫這邊 它當然也要跟著法令走而且會朝更好的方向 朝著更好的方向去做比趙鳳陽更好的方向去做就對了更好 更友善 哪時候會公佈"},{"start":535.803,"end":556.195,"text":"那就是會 整體會公布就是在這個 下禮拜對 應該是下禮拜下禮拜所以比我剛剛提的這個兆豐銀行目前的這個政策更好您提的確實是大家的一個需要那我想這個政府也會在這個部分去做努力好 那反正如果更好的政策就由院長來宣布啦妳只要跟我講那個方向就可以了啦好不好好 謝謝部長那經管會陳副主委好 來 謝謝"},{"start":570.276,"end":588.302,"text":"副主委 我們個人投資的儲蓄帳戶有沒有兒少版的TISA我們目前在緊隆密鼓在研議 應該在近期會推出一個兒少TISA方向是怎麼樣"},{"start":589.908,"end":613.265,"text":"基本上的話而是要提撒的話因為在這個部分我們是讓它一個目標上就是一個投資跟資產累積的一個整合的一個方案那在這個部分的話我們會再請這個這個我們的這個投信的一些商品再不管是在手續費管理費這樣再讓利那希望呢在這個地方再透過我問一個重點有沒有政府補助"},{"start":616.235,"end":634.361,"text":"這個在這個在整體的一個520的整個一個大計畫當中的確是有一個這個部分的一個研議啦那是不是補助或者是說今天裡面有部分管控在做兒少提撒投資賬戶這個地方我們想在下週都會明確的宣布對啊那方向呢有沒有"},{"start":637.84,"end":662.375,"text":"方向是正向方向是正向的好 立多都留給長官來做宣布啦方向是有正向的那正向就是有啊 有政府補助啊這也不算補助啦也不算補助啊 政府希望讓這個18歲的時候是會有第一桶金啦18歲有第一桶金那第一桶金是家長給的還是政府給的啊這就有差啦"},{"start":663.567,"end":669.816,"text":"政府一定會有所支持 希望下禮拜會有更多的政策出來 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-05-20T11:11:03.604000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:03.844000+08:00","text":"下禮拜？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:05.245000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:05.685000+08:00","text":"我想應該是下禮拜。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:06.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:09.928000+08:00","text":"所以會比我剛剛提的兆豐銀行目前的政策更好？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:10.248000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:15.651000+08:00","text":"是，委員您提的確實是大家的需要，我想政府也會在這個部分去做努力。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:15.971000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:21.954000+08:00","text":"好，反正如果有更好的政策，就由院長來宣布，你只要跟我講那個方向就可以了，好不好？","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:21.954000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:22.954000+08:00","text":"會朝更好的方向。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:21.974000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:22.014000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:22.014000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:23.014000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:22.034000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:22.155000+08:00","text":"請金管會陳副主委。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:22.175000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:22.175000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:36.276000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:46.739000+08:00","text":"副主委，TISA是我們個人投資的儲蓄帳戶，那有沒有兒少版的TISA？","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:47.159000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:53.722000+08:00","text":"我們目前在緊鑼密鼓的研議，應該在近期會推出一個兒少TISA。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:53.882000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:11:54.302000+08:00","text":"方向是怎麼樣？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T11:11:55.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:12:17.423000+08:00","text":"基本上兒少TISA在目標上就是投資跟資產累積的整合方案，我們會再請投信將一些商品，不管是在手續費，還是管理費上再讓利，希望在這個地方再透過……","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:12:17.423000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:12:19.245000+08:00","text":"我問一個重點，有沒有政府補助？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T11:12:22.235000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:12:38.560000+08:00","text":"這個在520的整個大計畫當中，的確是有這部分的研議，至於是不是補助或者是津貼裡面有部分管控在做兒少TISA投資帳戶，下週都會明確地宣布。","quality":0.836},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:12:39.241000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:12:39.961000+08:00","text":"那方向呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:12:40.061000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:12:40.341000+08:00","text":"有沒有？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T11:12:43.840000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:12:45.321000+08:00","text":"方向是正向的。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:12:45.901000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:12:46.682000+08:00","text":"方向是正向的？對。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:12:47.062000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:12:50.544000+08:00","text":"好，利多都留給長官來宣布。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:12:51.084000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:12:54.586000+08:00","text":"方向是正向的，正向就是有政府補助啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T11:12:55.607000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:12:56.428000+08:00","text":"這也不算補助啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:12:56.688000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:12:57.368000+08:00","text":"也不算補助？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:12:57.368000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T11:12:58.368000+08:00","text":"不然型態是怎麼樣？","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T11:12:57.868000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:13:01.991000+08:00","text":"政府希望讓兒少18歲的時候會有第一桶金。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:13:03.652000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:13:04.112000+08:00","text":"18歲有第一桶金？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:13:04.712000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:13:07.114000+08:00","text":"第一桶金是家長給的，還是政府給的？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:13:07.954000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:13:08.175000+08:00","text":"這就有差了啊！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T11:13:09.567000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:13:10.729000+08:00","text":"政府一定會有所支持。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:13:10.729000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T11:13:13.412000+08:00","text":"政府會有所支持？","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-05-20T11:13:13.412000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T11:13:15.816000+08:00","text":"OK，希望下禮拜會有更多的利多政策出來，謝謝。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T11:13:16.316000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T11:13:17.458857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-20T11:13:17.758857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T11:13:21.473143+08:00","text":"好，我們結束李坤城委員的質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-20T11:13:21.773143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T11:13:24.344571+08:00","text":"接下來請林思銘委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}