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必須要全面盤點你們多久時間可以盤點出來告訴我們"},{"start":397.745,"end":416.997,"text":"給一個時間三個月會影響到很多的保護因為在這個部分的話是整體多年以來現在整體的一個改變我們要一項一項盤點因為未來的保單的內容也必須有所因應"},{"start":418.138,"end":435.49,"text":"因應目前的現況與時俱進對不對我們這三個月請你去盤點出來是不要讓保護不是我所願的但是影響到我的權益好那就請謝謝主委三個月之後給中醫委員好了謝謝委員謝謝謝謝主席現在請蘇清泉委員質詢蘇清泉"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:10:23+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:10:24+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，邀請財政部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席（劉委員書彬代）","start":"2026-05-20T12:10:24+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:10:25+08:00","text":"請莊部長。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T12:10:24.672000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:10:24.912000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:10:24.912000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:10:24.912000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:10:35.679000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:10:45.026000+08:00","text":"我們來討論最近你們推出的放寬身心障礙者二親等內親屬車輛免徵牌照稅的規定。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:10:45.707000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:10:52.892000+08:00","text":"大家聽到這個非常的歡喜，協助所有身障者，能夠讓他身邊二親等的人可以協助。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:10:53.473000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:11:08.301000+08:00","text":"因為依據去年3月份統計，身心障礙有領license的人有一百二十三萬多人，所以對於整個社會來說，它是一個正面的制度。","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:11:08.621000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:11:20.987000+08:00","text":"但是在推行的時候，人家去申請卻碰到了問題，因為監理制度要求車籍地須與車主戶籍地是一致的。","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:11:21.647000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:11:31.172000+08:00","text":"但是我們的修法是車籍地與身障者戶籍地相同即可免稅。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:11:31.433000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:11:31.893000+08:00","text":"現在怎麼辦呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:11:32.273000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:11:34.655000+08:00","text":"他們去申請卡住了，怎麼辦呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:11:35.515000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:11:42.780000+08:00","text":"為什麼我們在推動制度的時候，橫向的聯繫似乎沒有先聯繫好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:11:44.061000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:11:45.182000+08:00","text":"現在預計要怎麼做？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:11:45.342000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:11:50.866000+08:00","text":"我們希望好的政策要能夠讓申請者可以落實，請問？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T12:11:53.593000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:12:02.257000+08:00","text":"上次立法院在討論的時候，當然交通部也有代表，但是因為沒有很清楚的說清楚，所以法律這樣過了。","quality":0.927},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T12:12:02.397000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:12:35.011000+08:00","text":"但是委員剛剛提的這個事情，我們後來了解以後，4月28日都已經做了核釋，也就是說在公路資訊系統裡還有登載一個住居所的地址，這個住居所的地址來取代車籍地，只要住居所的地址跟身障者的戶籍地相同的話，就可以解決您剛剛所提到的問題。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:12:35.011000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:12:36.011000+08:00","text":"居所的地方。","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T12:12:35.011000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:12:39.693000+08:00","text":"對，因為在公路資訊系統也會登載一個住居所的地址。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:12:40.313000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:12:43.755000+08:00","text":"所以只要跟住居所就可以……","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T12:12:44.215000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:12:46.857000+08:00","text":"對，跟身障者戶籍相同就可以。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:12:46.957000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:12:47.658000+08:00","text":"就可以申請。","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T12:12:48.258000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:12:49.459000+08:00","text":"是，二親等以內所有的車輛。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:12:49.600000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:12:52.862000+08:00","text":"所以你要把這個政策說明清楚。好的。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:12:53.803000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:12:58.467000+08:00","text":"你們調整之後，跟監理單位調整之後，要告訴人家。好的。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:12:59.388000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:13:07.115000+08:00","text":"要告訴人家，要不然在第一線申請的人也不知、在第一線作業的也不知，導致良好的政策沒有辦法落實。好的。","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T12:13:07.115000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:13:14.640000+08:00","text":"在4月28日我們函釋以後，再加強宣導，同時因為牌照稅是地方稅，所以我們一起請地方稽徵機關要確實落實。","quality":0.721},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:13:14.640000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:13:21.274500+08:00","text":"對啊，所以你們就和交通部監理單位談好之後，叫他要宣導啊，政策性要宣導。","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T12:13:21.274500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:13:27.909000+08:00","text":"好、好，我們再加強宣傳。","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:13:27.909000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:13:34.543500+08:00","text":"因為有碰到這個問題，你4月28日核釋，因為大家很關心，一百多萬人當然有需要二親等來協助嘛，這是非常天經地義的事情嘛，讓這個社會更祥和。","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T12:13:34.543500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:13:41.178000+08:00","text":"是、好的，除了我們宣導，也請地方稅捐機關要去宣導。","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:13:41.178000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:13:43.621000+08:00","text":"一定要宣導、要宣導，好不好？好、好。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:13:43.941000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:13:49.767000+08:00","text":"你也可以透過這些身障協會，這是最好的啊。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:13:49.967000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:13:58.476000+08:00","text":"除了機關來宣導，重點各縣市政府的身障團體，都有實際上需要的人去宣導啊。","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T12:13:58.476000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:13:59.476000+08:00","text":"實際上需要的對不對，然後公路監理機關也可以協助做宣導，因為在登記的時候……","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:13:59.476000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:14:00.476000+08:00","text":"對啊、對啊，你們要跟他講好，但因為這個政策是你推的，你可以做這個事情啊。好的。","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:14:00.476000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:14:01.476000+08:00","text":"請身障團體宣導下去，這樣大家都會清楚嘛，好不好？","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-05-20T12:14:01.476000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:14:02.476000+08:00","text":"是、是、是，好，謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:14:02.476000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:14:03.476000+08:00","text":"接下來請金管會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-20T12:13:59.076000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:13:59.176000+08:00","text":"請金管會副主委。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T12:13:59.176000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:14:26.594000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:14:26.594000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:14:29.915000+08:00","text":"我們現在來討論一個議題，因為三班護病比。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:14:32.216000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:14:54.651000+08:00","text":"現在醫學也進步，導致醫學中心推動一日手術當日出院，但是以前我們的保險大概維持的基準點還在舊時代，就是住院才給付，早期到目前為止大概都是這個方向。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:14:56.512000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:15:42.087000+08:00","text":"因應現在不管法律的改變、技術的增長各方的元素，導致一日手術當日出院的結果，保險人的付出沒有比較少，但是合約規範裡的重點就是必須住院，這不是保險人所願意啊，我不是不住院，而是因為你的技術提升了嘛，而且可能因為人數不足，不需要住院了，但是他的醫療一樣，付出也一樣，在這樣情況之下，會造成不是我保險人的改變而影響到我的給付，這怎麼辦？","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T12:15:43.387000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:15:50.111000+08:00","text":"我完全理解委員提到的，其實是民眾的一個痛點，特別是以往終身醫療的部分。對！","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T12:15:51.351000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:15:54.213000+08:00","text":"以往其實我們有調整過，在白內障的部分。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T12:15:56.654000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:16:08.120000+08:00","text":"另外，對於不是所謂的住院手術，會有部分的門診手術支付，其實整體對於民眾而言還是一個很大的困擾。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T12:16:08.120000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:16:09.721000+08:00","text":"我是不是可以請保險局副局長簡短說明一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:16:09.721000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:16:11.832500+08:00","text":"好，簡短說明一下。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-20T12:16:11.832500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:16:13.944000+08:00","text":"請簡短說明。","quality":0},{"speaker":"陳副局長清源","start":"2026-05-20T12:16:13.944000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:16:21.250000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，事實上現行市面上也是有保單針對手術，不見得是要住院，但是如果他有……","quality":0.829},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:16:21.490000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:16:23.692000+08:00","text":"但以往多數的基礎條件是如此啊。對。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"陳副局長清源","start":"2026-05-20T12:16:25.774000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:16:32.780000+08:00","text":"針對這個部分，我們當然會去盤點市面上的一些商品，會請公會再做因應。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:16:33.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:16:33.601000+08:00","text":"對、對、對，這就對了。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:16:33.621000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:16:45.668000+08:00","text":"你先盤點出來，要全面具體建議，全面盤點可能受到衝擊保單的規模跟保戶的權益。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:16:46.328000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:16:54.273000+08:00","text":"因為時代的進步、醫學的進步，人力的布局都不一樣了，所以在這樣情況之下，必須要全面盤點。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:16:54.273000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:16:54.993000+08:00","text":"你們多久時間可以盤點出來告訴我們？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:00.745000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:02.286000+08:00","text":"給一個時間。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:02.286000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:05.228000+08:00","text":"三個月，行不行？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:05.228000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:06.228000+08:00","text":"可不可以早一點啊？","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:05.588000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:06.529000+08:00","text":"三個月會影響到很多保戶。","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:07.609000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:15.855000+08:00","text":"因為在這個部分，是整體多年以來，現在整體的改變，我們要一項一項盤點。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:15.855000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:25.641000+08:00","text":"好，我們好好做，你好好去盤點，因為未來的保單內容也必須有所因應，因應目前的現況，與時俱進，對不對？","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:25.961000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:28.163000+08:00","text":"就三個月，請你去盤點出來。是。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"楊委員瓊瓔","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:28.543000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:32.166000+08:00","text":"不要讓保戶覺得不是我所願的，但是影響到我的權益。謝謝。","quality":0.792},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:32.726000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:36.889000+08:00","text":"好，那就請副主委三個月之後給楊瓊瓔委員。謝謝。","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"陳副主任委員彥良","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:36.889000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:37.349000+08:00","text":"好的，謝謝委員，謝謝主席。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:37.469000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:38.470000+08:00","text":"現在請蘇清泉委員、蘇清泉委員、蘇清泉委員不在。","quality":0.55},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:38.970000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:44.112857+08:00","text":"請鄭正鈐委員、鄭正鈐委員、鄭正鈐委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:44.412857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:49.555714+08:00","text":"請洪孟楷委員、洪孟楷委員、洪孟楷委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:49.855714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:54.998571+08:00","text":"請廖先翔委員、廖先翔委員、廖先翔委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-20T12:17:55.298571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-20T12:17:58.727143+08:00","text":"請葉元之委員，時間4分鐘，謝謝。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}