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house活动的推广所以之外我们也在跟国内的一些厂商跟法人在谈可能让我们的技术落地让民众可以有机会使用这样的工具来做这样的侦测这样子"},{"start":690.839,"end":706.2,"text":"就是說以AI來偵測AI那其實有您的回答也表示說我們中研院這邊對於整個這個部分的投入其實都還是有在持續的那我為什麼這樣子提醒其實因為AI的科技的應用越來越廣泛"},{"start":706.641,"end":730.044,"text":"那AI生成的相關的內容誤導或甚至欺騙民眾的這樣的事件的屢屢發生那我想這個對社會對民眾都會造成一定的恐慌那如果我們有這樣的工具來協助民眾辨識我們有可以掌握就是比較不會有假訊息的混淆也比較不會有社會的紛擾那主席已經站起來了謝謝那在這邊再次祝福我們的院長謝謝好 謝謝陳秀寶"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:55:06.215000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:55:08.797000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，請廖院長。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T09:55:09.217000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:55:09.998000+08:00","text":"再次有請廖院長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T09:55:09.998000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T09:55:14.401000+08:00","text":"陳委員早。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:55:14.401000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:55:14.841000+08:00","text":"院長早安。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:55:16.221000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:55:26.446000+08:00","text":"從早上質詢的人員到我、到現在，大家都要跟你提一下，你下個月就會離開這個職務，我想您有沒有一點捨不得？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:55:26.947000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:55:27.207000+08:00","text":"會不會覺得捨不得？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T09:55:34.231000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:55:34.251000+08:00","text":"一言難盡。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T09:55:36.372000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:55:50.980000+08:00","text":"我想這個職位有它很重要的地方，有很多值得珍惜的地方，也有很多值得繼續精進、看有什麼地方是可以改進的、什麼地方是可以不用做的。","quality":0.789},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T09:55:52.841000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:56:03.796000+08:00","text":"該做的我們要多做一點，特別是對研究人員的支持跟研究人員的交流這方面，我們要持續精進，這也是我最珍惜的部分，所以我們今天帶這麼多研究人員來。","quality":0.656},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:56:05.488000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:56:15.437000+08:00","text":"其實從院長的回答，我也可以感受得出來在過去10年中您對整個中研院的付出，您是捨不得、依依不捨的，我想同仁也是，我們也是。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:56:16.578000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:56:22.703000+08:00","text":"我想再請教一下院長，你在接受媒體專訪的時候有提到，針對臺灣的高教體制你有一些看法。","quality":0.974},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:56:24.084000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:56:29.549000+08:00","text":"院長，您未來即便是卸任了，我想您對臺灣的學術界還是有一些盼望吧？是的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T09:56:31.070000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:56:38.636000+08:00","text":"誠如我在很多場合說學術的問題是一個非常複雜的問題，最主要是風氣的問題。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T09:56:39.557000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:56:48.844000+08:00","text":"這個風氣不是一、兩個人，也不是一、兩個法規就可以改變，但是不改這些法規又很難去改變這個風氣，所以是有一點相輔相成的。","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T09:56:49.385000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:57:05.570000+08:00","text":"最重要的是我們全民要建立一個觀念，就是我們要做真正的研究，要針對科學或者社會上重要的問題來研究、探討，這是我們做研究的價值，而不是數paper。","quality":0.788},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T09:57:06.490000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:57:13.755000+08:00","text":"可能有人會誤會中研院是一切都量化，不是，我們事實上是重質不重量。","quality":0.69},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T09:57:14.475000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:57:36.708000+08:00","text":"當然，我們也希望能發表很多很好的paper，但是單單發表論文不足以達到我們的期許，我們希望發表很好的論文，而且越多越好，假如以量跟質兩個來看的話，我們除了並重之外，事實上我們還比較重視質的部分。","quality":0.854},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:57:38.018000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:57:38.779000+08:00","text":"謝謝院長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:57:39.259000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:57:46.482000+08:00","text":"我再請教院長，您認為我們臺灣的學者還要多久可以有機會得到諾貝爾獎？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T09:57:46.482000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:58:04.269000+08:00","text":"這個需要大家有一個願景，但是沒有辦法訂一個KPI，所有的諾貝爾獎都是深耕基礎研究，沒有辦法設定一個目標就像說……","quality":0.863},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:58:04.269000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:58:04.930000+08:00","text":"您覺得是樂觀的嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T09:58:06.450000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:58:13.678000+08:00","text":"我覺得假如我們朝這個方向走，全民有共識，我覺得我們是可以往這個方向達到……","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:58:13.798000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:58:16.301000+08:00","text":"當然有共識，也一定是支持的。是的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:58:17.122000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:58:26.892000+08:00","text":"在廖院長任職的期間，中研院有很多進步，當然也有很多挑戰，但很慶幸的是，在這段期間中研院是很穩定的、很堅定地成為臺灣學術的龍頭，帶領著許多相關的研究，包括院長在這段期間也獲得許多獎項，這是令人覺得非常驕傲的。","quality":0.468},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:58:27.132000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:58:33.555000+08:00","text":"您即將卸任，您對中研院的期許有沒有什麼未竟之業，或是你覺得非常重要，現在正要進行，希望即將上任的陳建仁院長可以繼續延續的？","quality":0.839},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T09:58:47.942000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T09:59:19.283000+08:00","text":"我希望大家不要忘記研究的初衷，我們做研究是希望能夠解決重要的問題，至少是自己認為重要的問題，然後我們過來就是要說服其他同儕甚至整個社會，我們認為重要的問題確實是重要的，假如不是的話，我們要跟學界、跟社會有一個良性的對話，怎麼樣把重要的問題變成我們研究的方向，這是中研院的使命。","quality":0.672},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T09:59:19.283000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T09:59:20.5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不只是中研院，本席也很擔心會有人才斷層的問題。","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:03:15.596000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:03:25.523000+08:00","text":"我之前質詢教育部的時候有提到，中國目前在調整大學的學科、學系，增加了38個跟AI、機器人相關的科系。","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:03:26.364000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:03:42.058000+08:00","text":"我想請中研院留意的是，中國對他們的大學做了這樣的調整之後，就會搶學生，不只會搶學生，還會搶教授、搶老師，然後會搶研究人才，這是我們相關部門都應該要留意的。","quality":0.928},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:03:43.379000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:03:49.766000+08:00","text":"這樣的訊息出來之後，中研院對於自己的人才培育跟留任有沒有什麼因應呢？","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T10:03:51.186000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:03:52.126000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的提問。","quality":0.429},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T10:03:53.007000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:04:05.809000+08:00","text":"這方面就要從提高薪資待遇、改善研究環境、加強職場友善的措施來做，這一切都是吸引人才、留住人才的方法。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T10:04:07.009000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:04:14.751000+08:00","text":"最重要的是要有充足、穩定的經費，所以這方面也煩請大院大力支持。","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:04:15.547000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:04:24.152000+08:00","text":"當然是一定會支持，其實從院長的回答我也知道中研院應該有相關的看法跟態度。是的。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:04:25.993000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:04:40.982000+08:00","text":"針對人才的留任，不管是在待遇上，不管是在其他種種的，我們也希望能提供更優渥、更有誘因的條件，希望相關的部會、相關的單位都能夠持續留意。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:04:42.303000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:04:43.664000+08:00","text":"我再繼續講一下好了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:04:44.825000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:05:05.545000+08:00","text":"Google目前有研發可以透過Gemini去辨識圖片是不是AI生成的這個辨識功能，在生成的圖片上會有特殊的電子浮水印，以便之後可以驗證；Google也將擴大支援音訊及影片的辨識，將這個功能整合進Google的搜尋引擎及其他平台。","quality":0.936},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:05:06.586000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:05:29.435000+08:00","text":"加上YouTube也宣布要擴大AI肖像權的偵測，將開放18歲以上的創作者透過申請，並提供身分證件及自拍短片認證上傳之後，系統就可以比對平台上未經授權使用其臉部肖像的影片，並且可以要求對方下架，這表示辨識影像的AI科技並不是不可行。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:05:30.156000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:05:46.649000+08:00","text":"之前本席有質詢過中研院，是不是可以研發相關辨識AI圖片的AI工具，當時中研院回復沒有辦法研究，但是目前如果這樣的技術已經開始進步了，你們是不是可以評估投入相關的研究？","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T10:05:47.730000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:05:48.411000+08:00","text":"這方面就請我們的資訊專家來說明。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"王副主任志宇","start":"2026-05-21T10:05:51.554000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:05:55.940000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我們這幾年都有持續觀察目前的技術，也持續地發展。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"王副主任志宇","start":"2026-05-21T10:05:56.401000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:06:09.915000+08:00","text":"近年來的技術趨勢是用AI來做這方面的偵測，我們也已經開發一些對應的技術，去年已經有在做一些學術的發表，目前應該是在世界前頭的level。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"王副主任志宇","start":"2026-05-21T10:06:10.735000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:06:18.477000+08:00","text":"接下來我們同時在做的就是對民眾的推廣，包括相關知識的推廣，包括演講或是Open House活動的推廣。","quality":0.702},{"speaker":"王副主任志宇","start":"2026-05-21T10:06:19.277000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:06:26.779000+08:00","text":"除此之外，我們也跟國內的一些廠商跟法人在談，可能讓我們的技術落地，讓民眾可以有機會使用這樣的工具做這樣的偵測。","quality":0.608},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:06:27.839000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:06:37.993000+08:00","text":"就是以AI來偵測AI，其實從您的回答也表示，中研院對於這整個部分的投入都還是有在持續的。對。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:06:39.415000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:06:40.417000+08:00","text":"我為什麼要這樣子提醒？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:06:40.677000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:06:52.349000+08:00","text":"因為AI科技的應用越來越廣泛，AI生成的相關內容會誤導，甚至欺騙民眾的事件也屢屢發生，我想這對社會、對民眾都會造成一定的恐慌。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:06:53.030000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:07:02.379000+08:00","text":"如果我們有這樣的工具來協助民眾辨識，就可以掌握……比較不會有假訊息的混淆，也比較不會有社會的紛擾。","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:07:02.579000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:07:04.381000+08:00","text":"主席已經站起來了，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員秀寳","start":"2026-05-21T10:07:05.002000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:07:06.763000+08:00","text":"在這邊再次祝福院長，謝謝。謝謝。","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T10:07:07.263000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T10:07:12.120143+08:00","text":"謝謝陳秀寳委員的質詢，謝謝院長，請回座。","quality":0.235},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T10:07:12.420143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T10:07:21.848714+08:00","text":"因為我們預計要早一點處理預算，所以希望以下發言的委員能夠控制時間，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T10:07:22.148714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T10:07:28.434429+08:00","text":"接下來有請鄭正鈐委員、鄭正鈐委員、鄭正鈐委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T10:07:28.734429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T10:07:31.877286+08:00","text":"有請吳沛憶委員進行詢答。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}