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拜託委員"},{"start":652.401,"end":656.822,"text":"因為我覺得這個過程當中說到另外一件是很辛苦的說沒有你也有一天,你如果沒有他生後,他沒做,他又怎麼開玩笑的又不夠有膽子去說另外一件,他認為他保安的這樣"},{"start":670.026,"end":676.712,"text":"一定為我們政府的事,不過應該要做的,但不過醫生他沒辦法做啦所以就像秘書長說的,恆大來恆後來,當時沒發生什麼事所以大家相同去,重心比心,未來國家會好利也好,大家也要想到說"},{"start":693.866,"end":698.534,"text":"你們的家庭,你們的父母,你們的家庭的孩子,可以讓他們好好生活的,以上謝謝吳議員,我們經常拍檔,謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:08:18+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T10:08:23.208333+08:00","text":"主席，請行政院秘書長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席（廖委員先翔）","start":"2026-05-21T10:08:23.208333+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T10:08:28.416667+08:00","text":"請秘書長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張秘書長惇涵","start":"2026-05-21T10:08:28.416667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T10:08:33.625000+08:00","text":"委員早安。早安。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:08:33.625000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:09:05.418000+08:00","text":"秘書長，今（115）年，現在已經5月中旬、將近月底了，行政院的預算還沒審，很多民生的政策也都還沒審，說實在的，如果說軍購案，百姓都認為那個是要保護中華民國、臺灣，大家都會關心一些，不過民生政策我相信很多人會關心跟煩惱。","quality":0.747},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:09:19.755000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:09:36.601000+08:00","text":"我們也看到行政院卓院長19日有說到一個政策補助，本來我們是針對出生後的小孩到6歲的補助，現在是補助到18歲。","quality":0.522},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:09:36.601000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:09:38.161000+08:00","text":"剛才有很多我們的同仁也說你的錢要由哪裡來、你是怎麼會突然想到要補助到18歲？","quality":0.647},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:09:38.681000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:10:20.238000+08:00","text":"本席剛剛聽你說這不是突發奇想，而是有計畫地、一步一步把各黨的建議都採納進去，所以這幾天，包括賴總統昨天提到這項政策，卓院長也有說，我覺得不管這是哪個政黨的提議，目前看來是各黨都同意耶！","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:10:20.518000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:10:22.280000+08:00","text":"所以秘書長，難得各黨都同意這項政策，這要趕快啦！","quality":0.524},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:10:22.280000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T10:10:43.583000+08:00","text":"你認為多久可以送來審查？","quality":0.273},{"speaker":"張秘書長惇涵","start":"2026-05-21T10:10:43.583000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:11:26.161000+08:00","text":"跟委員補充報告一點，不管總統或院長，他們這幾天說的0到18歲每個月5,000元的方案，並沒有排除現在已經在做的「0到6歲國家一起養2.0」，而是再加碼上去的0到18歲的方案，除此之外，行政院這次對0到18歲全程支持的方案初步有18項政策，我們正在做最後的盤點，最快下個禮拜會在行政院院會通過，相關的修法草案會儘速送到立法院，希望所有委員能夠支持。","quality":0.78},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:11:28.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:11:45.692000+08:00","text":"本席要和秘書長探討的是，相關的政策和做法不會因為今天來內政委員會備詢而延宕，我相信你們每項政策都是好幾個月前就在進行盤點，看需要多少經費，就像你剛剛說的，把年齡往上延伸之後，經費就要增加2,000億元。","quality":0.478},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:11:45.732000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:12:32.301000+08:00","text":"我覺得作為有擔當的執政黨，不會像在菜市場「喊王祿仔仙」一樣，既然全臺灣、全中華民國的百姓支持我們執政黨，我們執政黨就要有擔當，而不是隨便喊一喊，如果喊一喊卻做不到，那就糟了！","quality":0.442},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:12:32.301000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T10:12:46.886000+08:00","text":"在這個過程當中，我覺得0到6歲、6歲到18歲是非常有感的，有去服務處閒談的長輩和老人家都說政府幫忙養，可以減輕年輕人的負擔。","quality":0.173},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:12:46.886000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T10:13:01.471000+08:00","text":"但是本席要拜託秘書長，相較之下，我覺得國民年金有不足之處。","quality":0.269},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:13:01.471000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:13:24.733000+08:00","text":"沒錯，現在要提高到每月5,000元，可是你想一想，其實一個老人一天能花的不到200元！","quality":0.406},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:13:27.195000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:13:30.597000+08:00","text":"秘書長知道什麼人會領國民年金嗎？","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"張秘書長惇涵","start":"2026-05-21T10:13:30.597000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:13:31.498000+08:00","text":"主要是沒有其他的保險。對啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:13:32.118000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:13:43.756000+08:00","text":"說實在的，領取國民年金的人生活多半都非常困苦。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:13:44.036000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:14:07.940000+08:00","text":"在困苦當中，政府也有補助弱勢團體，可是領取國民年金有不少限制，包括他不能向地方政府申請低收入戶補助，所以他只能領國民年金。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:14:08.861000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:14:27.069000+08:00","text":"因此本席希望，就像剛剛蘇巧慧委員講的，從小孩子照顧到老人、從老人照顧到剛出生的小孩，這就是政府現在所要做的。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:14:31.790000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:14:41.893000+08:00","text":"秘書長，本席覺得你們對每一項都非常用心，但是除了用心，如果有不足之處，還是要多加瞭解和關心。","quality":0.415},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:14:41.893000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T10:15:39.916000+08:00","text":"有關預算的部分，本席來自嘉義市，去年行政院雲嘉南區聯合服務中心的預算被刪，雖然八、九月有追加預算，但是本席要告訴秘書長，這個設在嘉義市的行政院雲嘉南區聯合服務中心，對嘉義市、嘉義縣甚至臺南市的民眾而言，在服務方面都相當方便，現在要開始審預算了，本席要在此拜託秘書長多用心去和提案立委溝通。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"王委員美惠","start":"2026-05-21T10:15:39.916000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:16:21.228000+08:00","text":"去年有問題，不代表今年有問題，不管是提案凍結或刪減，希望各業務單位趕快去和每位提案委員溝通，因為就像我剛剛跟秘書長說的，本席來自嘉義市，對我們來講，要刪就刪你們自己所在選區的業務費和相關經費才對，而不是從外地來的卻刪我們嘉義服務中心的預算，這樣真的很沒道理！","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