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那趙偉你讓我幫你問問題你總要多給我一點時間吧"},{"start":489.392,"end":513.479,"text":"好那我們115年度我們的預算叫114年度大幅增加近14億那我們看到增加的經費用於AI創新應用醫療南部的院區發展量子科技還有經建的實驗大樓等項目請院長一下這14億預算的增幅預期能為國家帶來哪些具體的科研"},{"start":514.139,"end":542.814,"text":"突破經濟效應特別是AI和量子科技的部分中研院的研發如何跟國際接軌這個其實我也蠻有興趣想跟你詢問一下我們在南部院區投資很多在做量子的研究這方面我們會結合國際的單位包括一些國際知名的研究團隊廠商等共同進行合作"},{"start":543.634,"end":552.02,"text":"希望把這些資源同時也跟國內的各團隊一起共享我們希望在短期之內能夠在台灣開啟量子電腦的產業"},{"start":560.811,"end":581.078,"text":"實際的應用啦實際應用但是我還是要提醒就像今天我一開中明醫就問你嘛有幾項成果嘛你也提到像今天我們也看到你列舉的不管是20位元的超導量的一個量子電腦以及乳癌風險然後還有你剛剛說的氣候變遷等等我還是要再一次的提醒希望這些科研成果能夠轉換為實際的產業價值帶動國內的一個產業經濟的一個提升發展"},{"start":586.88,"end":604.467,"text":"包括刚刚叶炎之委员说他很关心我们刚刚所有的这些我们科研成果是不是能够模组化以后赶快变成量产这个部分还是希望最后你能够帮我们在实际的督促是这个部分可以吗好谢谢委员非常感谢罗廷瑞"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T10:57:16.551000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:57:16.711000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T10:57:17.493000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:57:18.774000+08:00","text":"有請院長、廖院長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T10:57:20.036000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:57:20.998000+08:00","text":"有請廖院長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T10:57:20.998000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T10:57:23.681000+08:00","text":"羅委員早。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T10:57:23.681000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:57:24.523000+08:00","text":"院長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T10:57:26.826000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:57:33.084000+08:00","text":"院長即將要退休？卸任。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T10:57:33.344000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:57:35.886000+08:00","text":"卸任，好，對不起，是卸任。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T10:57:37.106000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:57:38.727000+08:00","text":"有沒有什麼未來的規劃？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T10:57:38.727000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:57:40.268000+08:00","text":"我會繼續在中研院……","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T10:57:40.448000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:57:40.948000+08:00","text":"還是後面有什麼其他的職位？","quality":0.417},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T10:57:41.328000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:57:46.051000+08:00","text":"我在中研院生化所擔任特聘研究員。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T10:57:46.231000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:58:11.803000+08:00","text":"我想跟你請教一下，2016年當年那位「家裡有事，回家幫忙」的您來到中研院擔任院長，10年過去了，未來中研院還是我們最重要的研究最高機關，在即將卸任的時候，你有沒有什麼建議要給未來的團隊，甚至是賴總統？","quality":0.881},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T10:58:13.892000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:59:09.551000+08:00","text":"我想大家都知道中研院的使命是做基礎研究，我們也希望在做基礎研究的同時要注意幾件事情：第一個，我們做的基礎是真正針對重要關鍵的問題來做；第二個，我們不能只把我們的眼光放在實驗室的基礎，我們更要把這個基礎推廣到實際能夠在社會上應用，包括理工、生醫方面，我們講的可能是技轉或是在醫院，或是在產業界，或是在工業界，在人文社會科學方面，則是落實成幫助政府制定政策後面的理論基礎，我們應該朝這些方向來做。","quality":0.685},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T10:59:10.171000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:59:15.674000+08:00","text":"我想院長講出非常務實的層面，但是也是一種擔憂，我覺得這個部分非常重要。","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T10:59:16.134000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:59:24.358000+08:00","text":"回顧這10年來，中研院在國際的排名、關鍵科技的突破及人才培育等方面，你認為最重要的3項成果是什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T10:59:26.980000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T10:59:57.535000+08:00","text":"假如我們跳開這些指標性的數值的話，我們最大的突破，第一個是黑洞發現，整個團隊……再過來是我們的量子計畫，在過去很短的時間內，我們達到20位元的量子電腦，而且我們在製程方面有相當突出的表現，這兩個研究都把我們帶上國際的水準。","quality":0.677},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T10:59:58.375000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:00:26.289000+08:00","text":"除此之外，譬如在癌症的研究方面，我們也發現了肺癌的成因之一，這些也有很好的成就；在氣候變遷方面，我們在推估山區的氣候怎麼樣變遷上，這個模式也登上國際頂尖的期刊；在光合作用二氧化碳的吸收方面也有很大的突破，所以這個……好。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:00:26.289000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:00:27.649000+08:00","text":"看起來不只有三項成果。對。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:00:28.990000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:00:37.914000+08:00","text":"我們都希望未來在你領軍的過程當中，對於所形成的不管是風氣也好，或者是這些成果也好，都能夠繼續帶動成為下一個10年的養分。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:00:41.215000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:01:08.357000+08:00","text":"今天媒體報導，教育部擬成立臺灣高等研究學院，結合臺大、清大、陽明交大以及成大4所大學與中研院的資源，目標是為了落實賴總統所提出的333諾貝爾計畫，也就是在30年之內，要在物理、化學、醫學3個領域拿下3座諾貝爾獎。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:01:08.357000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:01:12.522000+08:00","text":"我想請問，這個計畫事前有沒有跟你討論過？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T11:01:12.522000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:01:12.983000+08:00","text":"我不清楚。","quality":1},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:01:13.643000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:01:13.944000+08:00","text":"你不清楚？對。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:01:16.126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"但我想委員提出的這些說法也應該虛心接受指教，那……","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T11:04:51.117000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:04:52.338000+08:00","text":"是的，沒錯。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T11:04:52.338000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:04:53.338000+08:00","text":"這事實上……","quality":0},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:04:52.338000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:04:54.960000+08:00","text":"待會是不是也應該有機會跟委員說明一下？","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T11:04:55.160000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:05:15.474000+08:00","text":"是的，我本人雖然字寫得不好，但是我對書法是非常有興趣的，特別是我祖先也是一個書法家，所以我對這方面是很尊敬的，雖然我字寫得很草。好。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:05:18.517000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:05:19.457000+08:00","text":"召委，你要我幫你問問題，你總要多給我一點時間吧？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:05:26.253000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:05:42.237000+08:00","text":"你們115年度的預算較114年度大幅增加了近14億，我們看到增加的經費被用於AI創新應用、醫療、南部的院區發展、量子科技，還有興建實驗大樓等項目。","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:05:42.517000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:05:50.200000+08:00","text":"請問院長，這14億的預算增幅預期能為國家帶來哪些具體的科研突破、經濟效益？","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:05:50.640000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:05:56.303000+08:00","text":"特別是AI和量子科技的部分，中研院的研發要如何跟國際接軌？","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:05:56.303000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:05:58.324000+08:00","text":"這個其實我也蠻有興趣想跟你詢問一下的。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T11:05:59.444000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:06:23.278000+08:00","text":"我們在南部院區投資了很多在做量子的研究，這方面我們會結合國際的單位，包括一些國際知名的研究團隊、廠商等共同進行合作，希望把這些資源同時也跟國內的各團隊一起共享。","quality":0.987},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T11:06:24.018000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:06:27.020000+08:00","text":"我們希望在短期之內能夠在臺灣開啟量子電腦的產業，這是我們的期許","quality":0.767},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:06:35.811000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:06:36.372000+08:00","text":"實際的應用啦。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T11:06:36.572000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:06:36.572000+08:00","text":"是實際的應用，對。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:06:36.752000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:06:41.193000+08:00","text":"但是我還是要提醒，像今天我就開宗明義地問你有幾項成果？","quality":0.84},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:06:41.493000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:06:52.497000+08:00","text":"你有提到，而今天我們也看到你列舉的，不管是20位元超導量子電腦，以及乳癌風險，然後還有你剛剛說的氣候變遷等等。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:06:52.657000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:06:56.058000+08:00","text":"我還是要再次提醒，希望這些科研成果能夠轉換為實際的產業價值，帶動國內產業經濟的提升與發展。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:07:01.880000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:07:13.465000+08:00","text":"包括剛剛葉元之委員也說了，他很關心剛剛所有的這些科研成果是不是能夠模組化，以後能趕快變成量產，這個部分還是希望最後你能夠幫我們在實際上督促、督導。是。","quality":0.551},{"speaker":"羅委員廷瑋","start":"2026-05-21T11:07:14.405000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:07:14.925000+08:00","text":"這個部分可以嗎？好。","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"廖院長俊智","start":"2026-05-21T11:07:15.425000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:07:16.567857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T11:07:16.867857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:07:21.153571+08:00","text":"非常感謝羅廷瑋召委，也請院長回座。","quality":0.267},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T11:07:21.453571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:07:31.453571+08:00","text":"現場有洪孟楷委員，他還是希望能爭取質詢，如果大家沒意見，是不是就3分鐘，嚴守3分鐘？","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T11:07:31.753571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:07:33.182143+08:00","text":"可以嗎？好，請。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}