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謝謝謝一芬"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:19:15.840000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:19:16.060000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:19:16.681000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:19:22.926000+08:00","text":"我想先請經濟部何次長跟水利署署長。","quality":0.562},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T11:19:23.907000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:19:25.409000+08:00","text":"有請經濟部跟水利署。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T11:19:25.409000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:19:33.642333+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:19:33.642333+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:19:41.875667+08:00","text":"次長好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:19:41.875667+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:19:50.109000+08:00","text":"現在水利署有31條需要緊急施工的破堤施工案件，其中26條正在施工中，有5條尚未施工，請問，目前這5條的情況如何？","quality":0.244},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:19:50.109000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:19:57.652000+08:00","text":"有沒有濁水溪的部分？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T11:20:05.894000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:20:16.276000+08:00","text":"破堤施工在汛期前都會處理，我們也都會加強檢視，目前破堤施工全部都掌握住，沒有問題。","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:20:16.276000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:20:17.576000+08:00","text":"那濁水溪呢？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T11:20:20.237000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:20:21.057000+08:00","text":"濁水溪目前沒有。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:20:21.625000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:20:22.846000+08:00","text":"沒有是不是？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T11:20:23.346000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:20:24.006000+08:00","text":"對，31條裡面，目前沒有濁水溪。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:20:24.407000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:20:33.912000+08:00","text":"未來我們要推動AI影像辨識，如果停電的時候，影像辨識會不會發生作用？","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:20:34.532000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:20:46.159000+08:00","text":"以及除了影像辨識外，如何讓中央跟地方有合作的社區防災能量？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T11:20:48.397000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:21:16.706000+08:00","text":"影像辨識部分，目前我們有兩千多個感知器，感知器事實上是透過感知器再配合它的高程就可以做判斷，而這個判斷是由我們經濟部水利署在做的，並不是在現場，所以並不會受停電的影響，是由我們中央這邊馬上做加值分析。","quality":0.849},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:21:18.173000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:21:19.795000+08:00","text":"所以不會受停電影響？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T11:21:19.795000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:21:20.795000+08:00","text":"不會，這個不會。","quality":0},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:21:19.795000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:21:21.616000+08:00","text":"那基層的社區防災呢？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T11:21:22.577000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:21:42.431000+08:00","text":"社區防災部分，因為有一些是自主防災，很多里長或志工都會提報給我們，所以社區防災是這個概念，但是我們另外會利用AI科技化導入，就是剛剛講的感知器或CCTV的掌握，這個都同步在進行，有些是……","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:21:43.231000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:21:46.154000+08:00","text":"那對淹水就可以完全掌握，對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T11:21:46.154000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:22:05.091000+08:00","text":"對，也就是說現在有三個系統，一個是透過志工的提報，一個是透過感知器自動回傳，另外就是EMIC，縣市政府經由災防民眾陳情的部分，這三個系統都會彙整到水利署來，也會彙整到災防辦這邊做統籌運用。","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:22:05.111000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:22:09.635000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝署長。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T11:22:09.635000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:22:09.635000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:22:09.935000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:22:12.417000+08:00","text":"接下來我想請交通部次長。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:22:12.417000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:22:13.418000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:22:13.418000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:22:59.877000+08:00","text":"何次長也請留下，我想問一個問題，就是去年我們看了ADAS輔助系統，我知道經濟部有很多技術及測試場域，這部分未來要怎麼推動，讓我們的汽車零組件市場可以擴大，協助我們中部的傳產跟中小企業？","quality":0.835},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:23:06.403000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:23:21.077000+08:00","text":"現在ADAS不管是輔助駕駛或者自動駕駛部分，在交通場域上的運用，有什麼樣的限制？","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T11:23:24.768000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:23:27.671000+08:00","text":"我們現在會透過車測中心去測試這個系統，這個系統如果企業運用之後，我們也會提供研發補助給這個企業。","quality":0.978},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:23:27.852000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:23:58.658000+08:00","text":"因為我們面臨駕駛高齡化問題，再來就是公共運輸駕駛目前也有缺工情況，未來我們要如何推廣這個產業，以及協助解決公共運輸問題？","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:24:01.059000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:24:14.752000+08:00","text":"其實六都以外，或甚至六都，都需要這種協助的輔助駕駛系統，甚至未來可能是無人駕駛系統，交通部在這部分有沒有其他相關規劃？","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:24:15.252000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:24:29.509000+08:00","text":"是，謝謝委員，你提到的這個問題，確實是目前公共運輸駕駛的重要議題，主要就是針對公共運輸來講，有疲勞駕駛的問題，有年齡老化問題，以及缺工、缺人問題，所以目前ADAS……","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:24:29.770000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:24:30.010000+08:00","text":"那無人駕駛部分，我切入正題……","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:24:30.010000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:24:31.010000+08:00","text":"無人駕駛也在研發中。","quality":0},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:24:30.010000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:24:31.372000+08:00","text":"無人駕駛什麼時候可以上路？","quality":1},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:24:35.016000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:24:36.657000+08:00","text":"你們相關的法規、法令有沒有做？","quality":0.692},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:24:37.637000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:24:47.701000+08:00","text":"其實已經在測試了，以前在桃機，工研院有測試無人駕駛，直接用50公里速度就可以切換，事實上，在不同的示範區，像沙崙……","quality":1},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:24:47.701000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:24:48.942000+08:00","text":"我講的不是示範區，我講的是怎麼樣……","quality":1},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:24:48.942000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:24:49.182000+08:00","text":"要落地有一個問題，因為……","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:24:49.182000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:24:49.322000+08:00","text":"對，落地的問題。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:24:55.244000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:15.884000+08:00","text":"我們目前有level 1到level 4，目前一般還在level 2，就是還需要人來注意跟操控，而我們對於進入level 3比較審慎，因為已經涉及到駕駛人完全不用操控，可能所有的駕駛責任、操控完全是設計廠商的問題。","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:16.324000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:19.326000+08:00","text":"其實我們level 2現在也只是在試辦……","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:19.567000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:20.748000+08:00","text":"level 2已經有了。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:22.149000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:23.470000+08:00","text":"可以直接上路？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:23.470000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:24.611000+08:00","text":"是，level 2已經有了，很多車種……","quality":0},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:24.611000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:25.752000+08:00","text":"可以直接上路嗎？","quality":0.143},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:25.752000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:26.652000+08:00","text":"法規、法令都沒有問題嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:26.652000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:38.162000+08:00","text":"因為level 2還是要人駕駛，他的手要放在方向盤上，所以基本上跟現在的操作都一樣，而level 3就是完全放手，那就跳得比較大。","quality":0.821},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:38.693000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:39.433000+08:00","text":"那這個部分呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:39.794000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:40.054000+08:00","text":"有沒有辦法？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:40.214000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:43.956000+08:00","text":"這個部分現在在測試中，還沒有完全導入，國內法規還沒有。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:44.537000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:49.319000+08:00","text":"因為這涉及到未來超高齡社會……","quality":1},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:49.319000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:25:50.319000+08:00","text":"了解，沒有錯。","quality":0},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:25:49.860000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:26:02.686000+08:00","text":"還有偏鄉公共運輸問題，或者是像你們所謂的需求反應式的這種公共運輸運具等等，這個都是在可以協助的範圍，是不是？","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:26:03.267000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:26:09.749000+08:00","text":"是，我們也鼓勵業者往這個方向進行，但是目前車測廠還有業者都還在測試中。","quality":0.719},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:26:10.650000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:26:12.711000+08:00","text":"不是車測廠，我是說法規、法令啦！","quality":0.538},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:26:13.671000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:26:17.593000+08:00","text":"主要還是系統要完整，要能夠完全自動駕駛。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:26:17.733000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:26:19.894000+08:00","text":"你覺得現在系統不夠完整嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:26:19.894000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:26:21.374000+08:00","text":"目前導入臺灣的都還沒有。","quality":1},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:26:23.576000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:26:25.197000+08:00","text":"何次長，你是不是也回答一下？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T11:26:25.217000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:26:47.565000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們有一個無人載具沙盒計畫，業者可以跟我們申請這個沙盒計畫，那他就可以在指定路線上做一些測試，如果測試沒有問題，基於安全問題，可能交通部那邊才會有相關上路的計畫。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:26:47.565000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:26:51.607000+08:00","text":"但剛才交通部次長提到了沒有相關的技術，是嗎？","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T11:26:53.349000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:26:54.289000+08:00","text":"技術應該是有啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T11:26:54.289000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:26:55.289000+08:00","text":"有在測試中。","quality":0},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:26:55.130000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:26:55.690000+08:00","text":"技術有啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:26:56.170000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:27:01.432000+08:00","text":"因為我看到技術是有，但是全盤性的技術或者……","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:27:02.112000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:27:04.533000+08:00","text":"報告委員，有導入在沙盒實驗測試中，但是還沒有……","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:27:05.253000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:27:08.295000+08:00","text":"你是說還沒有運用嗎？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:27:08.295000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:27:19.439000+08:00","text":"應該是說還沒有完成所有的測試並進行大量生產，然後在國內取得正式的生產，因為要有生產的過程除了通過測試以外，還要經過我們車安中心……","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:27:21.039000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:27:30.802000+08:00","text":"這個東西為什麼我追了很久，就是因為這個涉及到經濟部跟交通部，經濟部是關於技術方面；交通部則是安全跟法規相關的部分。是。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:27:31.963000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:27:43.487000+08:00","text":"關於無人載具的上路以及協助公共運輸等等，主席，是不是能夠請他們提一個報告給委員會？","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T11:27:46.145000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:27:48.546000+08:00","text":"就提一個相關報告給我們。好。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:27:48.787000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:27:59.893000+08:00","text":"提一個相關的報告，包括技術方面；上路的法規、法令；怎麼樣到level 3；相關的法規、法令是不是也有提到這個部分等等。","quality":0.86},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:28:00.673000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:28:17.781000+08:00","text":"這樣子也可以協助我們的中小企業或是中部地區的汽車零組件企業，在不景氣的時候，畢竟現在的半導體都很好了，可是我們的中小企業還是需要協助的，好不好？","quality":0.836},{"speaker":"林次長國顯","start":"2026-05-21T11:28:18.201000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:28:19.402000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:28:19.402000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:28:20.342000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:28:20.622000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:28:23.203000+08:00","text":"接著我想要請農業部陳部長。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-05-21T11:28:23.203000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:28:23.243000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:28:27.803000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:28:47.351000+08:00","text":"陳部長，昨天我有請教了台糖蘭園的問題，就是要在美國的基地做相關的生產，對此，經濟部龔部長說，這是你們農業部需要協助農民的部分。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-05-21T11:28:48.367000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:29:27.489000+08:00","text":"對，因為台糖在美國有一些蘭園廠，那時候我們有透過經濟部、透過台糖來協調，是不是可以讓台糖的基地當成我們臺灣蘭園一個接力生產的場域，對此，我們也跟蘭協相關的協會做了討論，然後他們也在做評估跟規劃，因為最重要的是這些業者願意去那邊做接力生產，不然到時候一旦建設了，之後卻沒有人去，反而會更糟糕，現在蘭協他們內部正在做這些討論，因為不同的業者還是有不同的聲音。","quality":0.853},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:29:30.069000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:29:43.894000+08:00","text":"我知道臺灣銷往美國的蘭花有2,300萬株，可是台糖蘭園的容納量只有500萬株，其他的好像沒有辦法容納那麼多。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-05-21T11:29:44.114000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:29:50.159000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，我們臺灣業者在美國的蘭園基地，不是只有台糖那一塊。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:29:51.460000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:29:51.520000+08:00","text":"還有其他的？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-05-21T11:29:51.900000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:30:07.172000+08:00","text":"在西岸的部分，部分是藉由台糖的地；在東岸的部分，很多業者都有基地了，所以他變成是一個接力生產的基地，可以供應加州的部分，一直到奧勒岡跟……","quality":0.836},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:30:09.093000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:30:10.555000+08:00","text":"主要是加州的部分就對了？對。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:30:11.737000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:30:27.395000+08:00","text":"所以未來包括花卉業者能夠在美國這個生產基地設置相關的冷鏈系統等等，農業部要怎麼樣來協助他們？","quality":0.568},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-05-21T11:30:27.996000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:30:53.282000+08:00","text":"我們初步的規劃是，如果業者真的有達成共識，而且他們願意當作經營主體的話，因為台糖那塊基地裡面部分的溫室已經太老舊了，所以相關這些設備的改善等等，我想政府會提供相關的經費去做修建，在滿足業者需求以後，由業者來做經營主體。","quality":0.792},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:30:54.922000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:30:56.224000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:30:57.325000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:31:12.341000+08:00","text":"汛期也到了，除了災後的補貼，希望農業部能夠以精準農業跟智慧防災的角度，協助農民進行汛期前主動式預防，可以嗎？","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"陳部長駿季","start":"2026-05-21T11:31:13.142000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:31:49.863000+08:00","text":"一定會的，委員也一直非常關注這一切，也一直叮嚀我們農業部在汛期的過程中，讓農民早一點知道訊息，早一點做防災的準備，就這個部分，我們在全臺灣布建了非常多農業專屬的氣象站，大概有兩百多個氣象站，透過這些氣象站的興建，相關氣象資訊的掌握會更精準，然後再透過智慧化的訊息傳遞，才能讓農民有更早的預防，這個部分我會尊重委員的意見，然後我們更加速來進行。","quality":0.904},{"speaker":"謝委員衣鳯","start":"2026-05-21T11:31:50.464000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T11:31:50.645000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T11:31:51.145000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:31:54.573571+08:00","text":"謝謝謝衣鳯委員，謝謝農業部。","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T11:31:54.873571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T11:31:58.873571+08:00","text":"接下來我們有請鍾佳濱委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}