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到南子產業園區變成世界半導體的一個設計中心或者製造中心所以它的這個戰略位置非常重要整個產業命脈就集中在北高雄所以不能發生缺水缺電或者淹水的問題"},{"start":399.028,"end":423.382,"text":"所以你要針對 包括陸屬科學園區 橋頭科學園區 男子產業園區針對這科學園區周遭 它可能會發生這個淹水的狀況你們先提早做盤點預先規劃不要讓任何淹水的事情在整個重點的產業園區出現一淹墜 整個產能就會受到影響整個供應鏈都會受到影響"},{"start":424.457,"end":448.408,"text":"所以我要拜託水利署 結合高雄市政府把重點產業園區 絕對不能發生淹水的事情這應該的 我們一起來努力所以你要先做盤點 是一窟一窟來保護好水 昨天這裡包括南門溪 包括這個橋頭 包括樓頂這些科學園區 它有不同的水文 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持續給我們協助那天我們現開經濟委員會考察阿公店新的景觀橋的部分有 那個已經納入市政府的評估裡面他只要提出來我們會優先來辦我想委員的意見我們認為是相當重要而且是認為可行的好 謝謝 另外水利署我希望說你們在幾個月時間針對這個"},{"start":620.188,"end":638.909,"text":"北高雄 除了這個科學園區之外甚至針對義煙水地區啊能夠有一些的熱區的一個建置他 比較高的營水你要有一個熱區的建置這些熱區你要提出每一個熱區的改善方案會預估的經費我們跟市政來共同研提三個會合不可以"},{"start":639.911,"end":643.158,"text":"把這個清單列出來 針對這清單裡面的熱區你提出一些解決方案我們來召集會議來研提電話也不能缺電 今天台電沒有來嗎"},{"start":651.289,"end":677.596,"text":"你有來嗎 副總有來這個高雄供電的韌性一直在強化除了這個台灣造成的這個大規模停電之外還有很多原因嘛 設備故障啊這個電纜的問題 設備的問題啊所以造成局部的停電我希望這個高雄市的北區 北高雄因為金色道很多產業園區所以它的供電韌性要特別特別特別的強"},{"start":678.703,"end":688.181,"text":"所以我希望說是不是經濟部在三個月能夠提出北高雄供電韌性的改善計畫讓這個局部停電或者大規模停電的這個狀況能夠減少這個"},{"start":693.014,"end":709.907,"text":"我們沒有持續在做 我們提出來三個月之內可以嗎 可以針對這些過去常常 我已經這個列表列給你看常常發生局部停電或大規模停電區域提供給你們做參考你們針對這些熱區 停電熱區能夠加強這個它的供電的韌性好 謝謝市長 謝謝副總好 謝謝好 我們謝謝邱志文"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:18:50.529000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:18:50.629000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:18:50.789000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:18:52.151000+08:00","text":"是不是有請經濟部何次長？","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-21T12:18:52.151000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:18:52.531000+08:00","text":"請經濟部何次長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:18:52.531000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T12:18:57.140500+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:18:57.140500+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T12:19:01.750000+08:00","text":"次長好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:19:01.750000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:19:14.481000+08:00","text":"次長，昨天520賴總統公布千億中小微企業支持方案，主要目的在於讓傳統產業轉型並升級，同時串聯高科技供應鏈。","quality":0.761},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:19:15.622000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:19:21.026000+08:00","text":"另外，要制定中小微企業轉型升級條例，對不對？是。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:19:22.527000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:19:34.833000+08:00","text":"透過這樣子後，再加入政府原先就有的，每年大概一百億針對中小微企業的補助，再投入1,000億，讓整個方案能夠實施。","quality":0.766},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:19:36.114000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:19:43.097000+08:00","text":"這是一個框架，總統昨天所宣布的是一個框架，至於具體落實則必須靠法律和預算編列，對不對？是。","quality":0.775},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:19:43.878000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:19:47.145000+08:00","text":"就法律來說，現在有中小企業發展條例，對不對？是。","quality":0.65},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:19:48.506000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:00.469000+08:00","text":"你要新訂所謂的中小微企業轉型升級條例，抑或由現有的中小企業發展條例來修法調整？","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:01.169000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:03.970000+08:00","text":"還是要另外新設中小微企業轉型升級條例？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:08.436000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:09.297000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員提問。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:09.997000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:21.805000+08:00","text":"確實，現在已經有中小企業發展條例，我們會把總統和院長所指示的方向，就現有中小企業發展條例的內容做全面的……","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:24.226000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:26.308000+08:00","text":"所以不另訂新法？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:26.648000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:30.391000+08:00","text":"就由中小企業發展條例來做法律名稱的調整與內容的調整？","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:30.892000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:38.958000+08:00","text":"我們可能會全部融入，讓中小企業從發展到升級、轉型，把它全部涵蓋在一起。","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:39.779000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:45.724000+08:00","text":"我要確認不是另訂新法，是由中小企業發展條例來做一些調整，包括法案名稱的調整？","quality":0.686},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:46.964000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:50.086000+08:00","text":"如果條文修正超過一半的話，可能……","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:50.246000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:51.266000+08:00","text":"所以你們要趕快跟勞動部及國發會……","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:51.266000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:52.266000+08:00","text":"有，都已經在討論了。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:51.346000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:53.267000+08:00","text":"這個會期非常長，長到無邊際，好像到8月底，然後8月底又接著新會期。","quality":0.63},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:53.287000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:54.187000+08:00","text":"所以我當召委的時間很多，拜託……","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:54.187000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T12:20:55.187000+08:00","text":"到時候再請委員幫忙。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:20:54.248000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:21:17.506000+08:00","text":"為協助中小企業發展，所以總統提出一個框架跟方案，若要落實，就要先通過條例，對不對？對。","quality":0.811},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:21:17.506000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:21:27.129000+08:00","text":"不管是從中小企業發展條例來調整或另訂新法，總是要條例先通過之後才有法源依據，這樣才能編列1,000億預算。","quality":0.761},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:21:28.169000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:21:28.910000+08:00","text":"1,000億預算分幾年執行？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:21:30.090000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:21:31.730000+08:00","text":"依照總統指示，八年。八年？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:21:32.551000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:21:35.131000+08:00","text":"分八年的話，一年增加大概一百多億，對不對？","quality":0.722},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:21:35.131000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:21:40.993000+08:00","text":"加上原來的一百多億，一年針對中小微企業大概提供近300億的預算。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:21:42.409000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:21:45.071000+08:00","text":"所以你還要編列預算？對。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:21:46.892000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:21:47.752000+08:00","text":"能不能規劃一個時程？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:21:48.032000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:21:52.895000+08:00","text":"法律大概什麼時候可以送到立法院？","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:21:53.576000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:21:56.277000+08:00","text":"我們希望在下會期開議……","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:21:56.277000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T12:21:57.277000+08:00","text":"會比較久一點。","quality":0.167},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:21:57.098000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:01.400000+08:00","text":"我已經告訴你這會期延長到很久很久，所以我們沒有暑假，我希望……","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:03.171000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:05.534000+08:00","text":"我們會加快，我們會加快。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:05.734000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:09.238000+08:00","text":"我知道你要跨部會，包括勞動部，包括國發會，你們要一起密集作業。","quality":0.593},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:09.539000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:11.060000+08:00","text":"有，都一起在作業中。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:11.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:15.445000+08:00","text":"當然還要經過行政院院會，就算用最快速度……","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:19.030000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:20.632000+08:00","text":"法律還要經過預告的程序，所以無法縮短。","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:20.632000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:24.912000+08:00","text":"所以目前規劃還是在下會期？","quality":0.167},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:24.912000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:25.312000+08:00","text":"我們希望在下會期送來。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:25.372000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:25.412000+08:00","text":"你要編預算啊！","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"何次長晉滄","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:25.552000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:25.913000+08:00","text":"對，我們會一併提出來。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:26.033000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:26.213000+08:00","text":"這個問題就到此。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:26.393000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:27.114000+08:00","text":"請國土署蔡署長。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:27.114000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:28.114000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:27.674000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:33.239000+08:00","text":"署長，我很快請教您，橋頭新市鎮第三期的開發是不是具有急迫性？","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:49.856000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:50.136000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，有急迫性。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:50.537000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:51.317000+08:00","text":"有急迫性？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:52.118000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:22:52.538000+08:00","text":"為什麼有急迫性？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:22:54.360000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:06.369000+08:00","text":"橋科二期部分目前已經開發完成，廠商都已經進駐，但橋科的聯外道路現在只有友情路，所以基本上東西向的1-1號道路完全沒有開闢。","quality":0.815},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:07.269000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:09.711000+08:00","text":"未來廠商進駐橋科以後……","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:09.952000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:10.552000+08:00","text":"貨出不來……","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:10.552000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:10.973000+08:00","text":"整個交通……","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:11.653000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:11.813000+08:00","text":"原料進不去？","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:11.813000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:13.895000+08:00","text":"對，交通是一個大問題。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:13.895000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:18.819000+08:00","text":"如此，橋頭區的所有里民、市民也會受到交通的打擊與衝擊，對不對？","quality":0.815},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:18.819000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:19.020000+08:00","text":"對，塞車會很……","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:19.020000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:22.383000+08:00","text":"所以1-1號道路有它的必要性跟急迫性？對。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:24.144000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:31.250000+08:00","text":"你是水利專家，這條路開了……因為鄰近典寶溪，會影響典寶溪下游的防洪功能嗎？","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:32.276000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:37.002000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，典寶溪上、中、下游的整個規劃……","quality":0.706},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:37.182000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:39.044000+08:00","text":"過去幾年我們一起努力爭取了多少預算？","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:39.525000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:40.446000+08:00","text":"大概二、三十億吧？","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:41.267000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:41.967000+08:00","text":"有二、三十億。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:42.588000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:43.689000+08:00","text":"對不對？對。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:43.689000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:46.252000+08:00","text":"從上游、中游、下游全部，包括滯洪池……","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:46.713000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:47.394000+08:00","text":"對，都已經規劃……","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:47.974000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:48.495000+08:00","text":"包括抽水站……","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:48.915000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:49.676000+08:00","text":"對，大概都……","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:51.578000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:23:57.084000+08:00","text":"1-1號道路闢建後，對整體典寶溪的防洪功能會不會造成影響？","quality":0.708},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:23:57.084000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:24:03.867000+08:00","text":"目前整個規劃都依照水利署的出流管制做規劃……","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:24:04.208000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:24:12.932000+08:00","text":"你是專家，你是水利博士，所以你講的是最專業的，做任何政治判斷或政策評估一定要尊重專業。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:24:14.573000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:24:20.118000+08:00","text":"您的意思是1-1號道路的闢建不會影響到目前典寶溪的治理與防洪功能？","quality":0.655},{"speaker":"蔡署長長展","start":"2026-05-21T12:24:20.959000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:24:21.440000+08:00","text":"絕對不會。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:24:21.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:24:24.683000+08:00","text":"好，請回，稍微休息一下，謝謝。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:24:25.704000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:24:29.047000+08:00","text":"還是一樣請何次長、台電還有水利署署長。","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:24:38.652000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:25:07.264000+08:00","text":"在治水防洪方面，未來高雄市，特別是高雄市北區、北高雄，它是S廊帶的後半段，從臺南沙崙到路竹科學園區、橋頭科學園區、楠梓產業園區，變成世界半導體的設計中心或製造中心，戰略位置非常重要，整個產業命脈就集中在北高雄，所以不能發生缺水、缺電或者淹水的問題。","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:25:09.848000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:25:28.739000+08:00","text":"包括路竹科學園區、橋頭科學園區、楠梓產業園區，針對科學園區周遭可能會發生淹水的狀況，你們要先提早做盤點，預先規劃，不要讓淹水事件在重點產業園區出現。","quality":0.91},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:25:28.739000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:25:33.382000+08:00","text":"畢竟一淹水，整個產能就會受到影響，整個供應鏈都會受到影響。","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:25:34.457000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:25:41.380000+08:00","text":"所以我要拜託水利署，是不是結合高雄市政府，讓重點產業園區絕對不能發生淹水的事情？","quality":0.892},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:25:41.740000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:25:42.721000+08:00","text":"這是應該的，我們一起來努力。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:25:42.981000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:25:44.141000+08:00","text":"所以要先做盤點！是。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:25:44.301000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:25:58.288000+08:00","text":"一區一區保護好，包括楠梓溪、包括橋頭、包括路竹，這些科學園區有不同的水文、不同的水系，所以要確保絕不能淹水。","quality":0.851},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:25:59.608000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:25:59.608000+08:00","text":"這應該的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:26:00.229000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:26:05.553000+08:00","text":"我們過去跟蔡署長或現在的蔡局長，都保持很密切的聯繫。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:26:06.573000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:26:09.055000+08:00","text":"署長有把握沒問題？","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:26:09.055000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:26:12.698000+08:00","text":"重點是半導體生產園區不會淹水。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:26:13.739000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:26:15.079000+08:00","text":"是，應該的。好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:26:16.641000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:26:30.637000+08:00","text":"再請教你，缺水也是絕對萬萬不可，我過去推動北高雄設立十萬噸的再生水廠，但以前是臨時的，從臺中裝過來一天十萬噸的再生水。","quality":0.741},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:26:31.277000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:26:34.200000+08:00","text":"再生水是可以喝的，但主要還是提供為產業用水。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:26:35.261000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:26:43.549000+08:00","text":"現在民眾對原先規劃的地點有一些意見，如果十萬噸的蓋不起來，未來有沒有替代方案？","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:26:44.230000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:26:49.275000+08:00","text":"或者2030年之後，或者廠商整個進駐之後，會不會少了這十萬噸的再生水？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:26:49.275000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:26:53.399000+08:00","text":"會不會有缺水的問題？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:26:53.399000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:27:12.353000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，其實針對高雄的整體供水，我們事實上是竭盡所能去推動，包含荖濃溪的伏流水跟隘寮溪的伏流水都在推，荖濃溪伏流水即將完成。","quality":0.847},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:27:12.894000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:27:14.334000+08:00","text":"那是比較屬於東邊。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:27:15.135000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:27:23.158000+08:00","text":"但是整個供水也是在一起，它會併到高屏堰來串接，所以也就是說事實上過去……","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:27:23.558000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:27:26.059000+08:00","text":"您的意思是說再生水廠不建不蓋也可以嗎？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:27:26.059000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:27:31.621000+08:00","text":"沒有、沒有，再生水廠是內政部在做，那海水淡化廠，你應該談的是海水淡化廠？","quality":0.839},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:27:33.316000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:27:34.057000+08:00","text":"對，海淡廠。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:27:34.057000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:27:34.477000+08:00","text":"應該是海淡廠。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:27:35.058000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:27:38.160000+08:00","text":"再生水廠是橋頭跟……","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:27:38.960000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:27:42.643000+08:00","text":"我們都是依照委員的意見，我們持續跟地方溝通。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:27:43.444000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:27:46.246000+08:00","text":"海淡廠的部分，你覺得還是要蓋嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:27:46.246000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:08.157000+08:00","text":"我們希望來蓋，但是地方要找地點，因為地方有不同的聲音，我們持續溝通中，但是在沒有之前，事實上包含剛剛談到的20萬噸伏流水持續推動以外，我們跟相關的臺南與屏東的珍珠串計畫串接持續推動中。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:08.397000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:14.158000+08:00","text":"因為有些海淡廠的水，可以協助臺南沙崙那邊。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:14.158000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:15.339000+08:00","text":"沒有錯，尤其海水淡化廠……","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:15.459000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:17.719000+08:00","text":"這是一個區域供水的概念。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:18.359000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:20.560000+08:00","text":"對，它不受氣候影響，是非常重要的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:20.720000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:21.260000+08:00","text":"所以還是會蓋啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:21.700000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:22.321000+08:00","text":"我們朝蓋的方向……","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:22.321000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:26.082000+08:00","text":"是不是還要加強溝通或者另覓地點？","quality":0.133},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:26.082000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:28.142000+08:00","text":"是，謝謝委員持續給我們協助。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:28.402000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:32.583000+08:00","text":"那天我們現勘，經濟委員會考察阿公店溪景觀橋的部分，再請你多費點心。","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:33.283000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:39.605000+08:00","text":"有，那個已經納入市政府的評估裡面，他只要提出來我們會優先來辦。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:39.605000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:43.946000+08:00","text":"我想委員的意見我們認為相當重要，而且是認為可行的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:44.186000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:45.067000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長元鵬","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:45.067000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:46.067000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"邱委員志偉","start":"2026-05-21T12:28:45.067000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-21T12:28:57.436000+08:00","text":"另外，我希望水利署能夠在幾個月時間，針對北高雄，除了科學園區之外，甚至針對易淹水地區，能夠有一些熱區的建置。","quality":0.854},{"speaker":"邱委員志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