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非常謝謝"},{"start":365.054,"end":392.723,"text":"主委您的上任的第一個任務恐怕就要先來幫原住民解決這個問題我們希望他能夠趕快的上路讓我們的主任謝謝另外我要講的是不再舉投票了非常多的委員很關心不再舉投票而且您自己也說不再舉投票是必須要積極面對妥善處理的工作那我的主任就是最需要用國內不再舉投票才能夠解決我們剛剛所"},{"start":394.924,"end":407.588,"text":"所謂的反加投票的意願然後我們的投票率要升高的問題那我們看一下整個歷程其實從2011年監察院就已經要求推動不再急投票了2012年內政部有開公聽會2013年"},{"start":411.749,"end":435.043,"text":"我們再度的要求要建制2018年再辦可行性的公聽會2020年又開公投不在籍投票相關的公聽會我們看一下這個年度的流程你就可以看到十幾年過去了理由也講清楚了公聽會也開完了結果我們現在這個制度還躺在原地"},{"start":436.061,"end":458.381,"text":"那主委我相信剛剛我聽到您的回答了你說這是必須一個是政策上的決定嘛是行政院內政部但是呢您上任主委這應該跟您的理念也相同吧好跟我們回報一下我長期以來關心研究台灣的選舉制度"},{"start":459.366,"end":482.34,"text":"那剛剛委員所提出來那些都是事實在2012、2013年尤其是監察院開始關切這方面的問題的時候其實社會反應都蠻正面的可是慢慢的到今天為止社會的反應好像已經沒有像以前那麼強烈"},{"start":483.2,"end":511.658,"text":"主要的原因就在於我們自己的選舉制度也在改變以前選舉都是單一選舉包括總統選舉單次選舉立委單次選舉所以在任何單次選舉的情況底下實施不在籍投票看起來都是理所當然可是當很多選舉種類都合在一起比方說我們的九合一的選舉"},{"start":513.055,"end":538.297,"text":"那所造成的不在籍投票的所造成的複雜性就大到難以想像這個我們中情會也在多次跟大院報告也跟社會報告就是說如何在實施不在籍投票的同時不傷害到其他我們非常珍惜的價值"},{"start":539.077,"end":568.127,"text":"比方說選舉的公平性公正性不造成選舉的扭曲等等我們要如何能夠一併考量這些價值而不是只是追求不在籍投票的實施我個人也一再講過不在籍投票是一個進步的思維日本可以美國可以各國好像也在實施為什麼台灣不可以我們非常多的外籍的工作人員在台灣他也可以投他國內的投票"},{"start":568.407,"end":591.916,"text":"我很佩服高金委員長期在關心族人的不在籍投票的需求但是我也要講一句就是說如果像日本這樣子剛剛結束的這個國會選舉投票單一選舉他們實施的不在籍投票那麼好那我們要了解各種的原因實在是因為他是單一選舉"},{"start":593.933,"end":595.294,"text":"如果是按照主委您這樣說的話 恐怕這個歷程還會很長"},{"start":612.469,"end":626.906,"text":"那也不是短短十幾分鐘我們在這裡可以討論出來的但是呢你應該同意我說便利投票它不是對人民的恩惠而是民主應該要有的基本配備吧那當然是"},{"start":629.068,"end":654.228,"text":"如果同意這樣子的一個價值我覺得就必須要趕快往前走而不是從2011年一直到現在那縱使您剛剛說過有很多選舉制度必須要要充分的在討論我覺得您今天到這個位置上來想必就是有你的理念有你的理想不再去投票會不會是你的理念跟理想呢"},{"start":654.728,"end":662.034,"text":"是 這是一個大方向 我們必須走向那一個方向好 謝謝你 希望主委你再積極努力加油希望可以達成目標好 謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T09:56:46.774000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T09:56:47.862000+08:00","text":"謝謝召委，有請游主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T09:56:55.035000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T09:56:55.255000+08:00","text":"高金委員好。","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T09:56:55.756000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T09:56:56.416000+08:00","text":"游主委，辛苦了！","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T09:56:56.836000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T09:57:19.830000+08:00","text":"這是你第一次到立法院來業務報告，當時我們投票給你的時候，你的簡歷上寫得很清楚，你說維持高效能、高效率的選務行政系統，要讓全體的選民滿意，這是中選會責無旁貸的使命，這句話我非常認同，也非常支持。","quality":0.954},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T09:57:20.391000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T09:57:22.612000+08:00","text":"但是主委知道嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T09:57:22.612000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T09:57:35.042000+08:00","text":"長期以來，我的族人對於選務行政系統一點都不滿意，而且這也是長期的問題，請問主委，你知道原住民選舉有什麼樣的缺失嗎？","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T09:57:39.523000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T09:58:10.182000+08:00","text":"我相信原住民選民會感覺到有許多行政措施上的不方便，以至於造成他們的投票意願比較低落等相關問題，我很清楚，因為我是花蓮人，我在花蓮也接觸了很多原住民，我跟他們有非常密切的接觸、聯繫，並且也是好朋友，所以高金委員所提示的這些問題，我是深有所感的。","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T09:58:10.502000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T09:58:11.703000+08:00","text":"好的，非常謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T09:58:11.863000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T09:58:39.520000+08:00","text":"我要再次提醒你大概有幾個面向：第一個是秘密投票保障不足，我們可以看到113年原住民立法委員的選舉，將近有兩千多個投開票所，這兩千多個投開票所只有一名原住民選舉人，也就是這個人投給誰，馬上開票就知道了，所謂的秘密投票形同虛設。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T09:58:40.402000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T09:58:51.157000+08:00","text":"第二個，投票成本很高，就是剛剛你說的，因為我們的族人必須回到他的戶籍地投票，所以成本很高，以致很多人都不想回去。","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T09:58:51.938000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T09:59:21.535000+08:00","text":"第三個，投票率長期偏低，偏低的原因跟剛剛前面講的兩個都有關連，我們可以看到數據，113年不分區立委投票率一般是71.78%，可是山地原住民只有64.32%，而平地原住民更只有58.25%，這不是族人不願意去投票，是我們的制度讓族人更難去投票。","quality":0.959},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T09:59:22.095000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T09:59:58.003000+08:00","text":"第四個，這個也是我長期以來一直希望中選會能夠改善的，就是選務疏失缺乏救濟，因為我們的投開票所人員對於原住民選舉不太清楚，所以每一次到現場的時候，都會有少發、誤發、漏發，我們的族人當場會有非常多的問題，可是最後是連申訴都無門，然後非常生氣的就離開不投票了，以上幾個困境，其實到現在都還沒有辦法解決。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T09:59:58.003000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:00:01.906000+08:00","text":"請問主委，你上任以來，你是我們原住民的好朋友，你覺得該怎麼樣趕快來處理這個事情？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:00:05.867000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:00:46.906000+08:00","text":"謝謝高金委員，我上任之後，我發現委員剛剛所提的這些問題都存在，我們選務單位也努力的試圖去有效解決，所以在今年的地方選舉，我們已經採取了有效措施，比方秘密投票保障不足，涉及選罷法第五十七條修法，我們已經跟各地選委會開始研議怎麼樣來實現這一個改革。","quality":0.912},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:00:47.506000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:01:24.539000+08:00","text":"另外就是委員長期所關切的，原住民在投票的時候可能產生的選務疏失，我們也積極研議，這一次在六都方面，我們已經優化原住民選舉人領票作業，以解決選票誤發、少發、未發等情形，我們已經有完整的計畫，估計可以有16萬山原和平原選民能夠獲益。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:01:27.218000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:01:46.844000+08:00","text":"所以你剛剛講到的優化原住民選舉人領票作業試辦計畫，這個是本席一再催促的，目前你們正在辦理計畫，你剛剛講到將會有16萬族人，因為這個試辦計畫而解決誤發、少發、未發的狀況。","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:01:46.844000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:01:47.464000+08:00","text":"六都的部分。","quality":1},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:01:47.744000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:01:48.304000+08:00","text":"只有在六都？是。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:01:50.785000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:01:53.405000+08:00","text":"在六都的部分，在這次11月的投票會解決這個問題嗎？","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:01:55.326000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:01:57.713000+08:00","text":"我想應該可以相當程度解決。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:01:57.713000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-27T10:01:58.713000+08:00","text":"還是要等到下次立法委員選舉？","quality":0},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:01:57.713000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:01:58.014000+08:00","text":"這一次就可以，請我們選務處來做說明。","quality":0.688},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:01:58.014000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-27T10:02:04.679000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王處長曉麟","start":"2026-05-27T10:02:04.679000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:02:12.722000+08:00","text":"報告委員，有關優化原住民選舉人投票措施，其實這個要感謝委員在去年預算審查時候所提出的。沒錯。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"王處長曉麟：我們目前的規劃是已提出三個機制","start":"2026-05-27T10:02:17.223000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:02:36.810000+08:00","text":"第一個是原住民選舉人名冊單獨造冊；第二個是專人引導原住民來協助領票；第三個是彈性調派一位工作人員來執行發票任務，這樣應該是可以有效的讓原住民選舉人正確的到他的領票處所，正確領到他的選票。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王處長曉麟：我們目前的規劃是已提出三個機制","start":"2026-05-27T10:02:37.410000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:02:47.674000+08:00","text":"尤其更重要的是，我們有要求地方投票所的工作人員，絕對不可以再把原住民的選票放在抽屜裡面，一定要放在桌面上，以昭公信，謝謝委員。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:02:47.994000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:02:48.134000+08:00","text":"非常謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:02:49.054000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:02:57.677000+08:00","text":"主委，你上任的第一個任務，恐怕就要先幫原住民解決這個問題，我們希望它能夠趕快上路。","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:02:59.798000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:02:59.798000+08:00","text":"非常願意。謝謝。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:02:59.798000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:03:24.306000+08:00","text":"另外，我要講的是不在籍投票，非常多委員很關心不在籍投票，而且你自己也說不在籍投票是必須要積極面對、妥善處理的工作，我的族人就是最需要用國內不在籍投票，才能夠解決我們剛剛所謂的返家投票的意願，以及提高投票率的問題。","quality":0.827},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:03:24.526000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:03:59.023000+08:00","text":"我們來看一下整個歷程，其實從2011年監察院就已經要求推動不在籍投票，2012年內政部有開公聽會，2013年又再度要求要建置，2018年再辦可行性公聽會，2020年又開公投不在籍投票相關公聽會，我們看一下這個年度的流程，你可以看到十幾年過去了，理由也講清楚了、公聽會也開完了，結果現在這個制度還躺在原地。","quality":0.959},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:04:00.361000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:04:13.874000+08:00","text":"主委，我剛剛聽到你的回答了，你說這是政策上的決定，是行政院、內政部，但是你上任主委，這應該跟你的理念也相同吧？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:04:16.356000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:04:46.320000+08:00","text":"跟委員回報一下，我長期以來關心、研究臺灣的選舉制度，剛剛委員所提出來的那些都是事實，在2011年、2012年或2013年，尤其是監察院開始關切這方面問題的時候，其實社會反應都滿正面的，可是慢慢的到今天為止，社會的反應好像已經沒有像以前那麼強烈。","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:04:47.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:05:32.949000+08:00","text":"主要的原因就在於我們自己的選舉制度也在改變，以前選舉都是單一選舉，包括總統選舉是單次選舉、立委是單次選舉，所以在任何單次選舉的情況底下，實施不在籍投票看起來都是理所當然，可是當很多選舉種類都合在一起，比方說我們的九合一選舉，其所造成不在籍投票的複雜性就大到難以想像，這個中選會也多次跟大院與社會報告。","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:05:34.530000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:05:56.542000+08:00","text":"換言之，如何在實施不在籍投票的同時，不傷害到其他我們非常珍惜的價值，比方說選舉的公平性、公正性，不造成選舉的扭曲等等，我們要如何能夠一併考量這些價值，而不是只是追求不在籍投票的實施？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:05:56.742000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:06:05.885000+08:00","text":"我個人也一再講，不在籍投票是一個進步的思維，日本可以、美國可以，各國好像也在實施，為什麼臺灣不可以？","quality":1},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:06:05.885000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-27T10:06:06.885000+08:00","text":"我很佩服……","quality":0.25},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:06:06.885000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:06:12.107000+08:00","text":"我們非常多外籍的工作人員在臺灣，他也可以投他國內的投票。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:06:12.407000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:06:35.916000+08:00","text":"是，我很佩服高金委員長期關心族人不在籍投票的需求，但是我也要講一句，像日本剛剛結束的國會選舉投票，這是單一選舉，他們實施的不在籍投票那麼好……我們要了解箇中的原因實在是因為它是單一選舉，單一選舉才做得到。","quality":0.849},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:06:35.916000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-27T10:06:37.933000+08:00","text":"我們未來也可能需要大院整體思考選制的改革，怎麼樣改良選制同時促成不在籍投票的實施。","quality":0},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:06:37.933000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:07:10.505000+08:00","text":"如果按照主委您這樣子的說法，恐怕這個歷程還有很長，也不是短短十幾分鐘我們在這裡可以討論出來的，但是你應該同意我說便利投票不是對人民的恩惠，而是民主應該要有的基本配備，您同意吧？","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:07:10.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:07:10.886000+08:00","text":"那當然是。","quality":1},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:07:13.068000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:07:22.636000+08:00","text":"好，如果同意這樣子的一個價值，我覺得就必須要趕快往前走，而不是從2011年一直到現在。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:07:23.776000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:07:38.208000+08:00","text":"縱使您剛剛說過有很多選舉制度必須要再充分的討論，我覺得您今天到這個位置上，想必就是有你的理念、有你的理想，不在籍投票會不會是你的理念跟理想呢？","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:07:38.728000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:07:41.911000+08:00","text":"是，這是一個大方向，我們必須走向那一個方向。","quality":1},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:07:42.331000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:07:44.693000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝你，希望主委再積極努力加油。","quality":1},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:07:44.773000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:07:46.014000+08:00","text":"我希望可以達成目標。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"高金委員素梅","start":"2026-05-27T10:07:46.014000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:07:46.034000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席（王委員美惠代）","start":"2026-05-27T10:07:46.534000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-27T10:07:48.819714+08:00","text":"謝謝高金素梅委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席（王委員美惠代）","start":"2026-05-27T10:07:49.119714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-27T10:07:51.976857+08:00","text":"我們請李柏毅召委質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supporte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