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了解嗎"},{"start":295.035,"end":320.837,"text":"報告委員那依照選罷法的規定那領票的時候是可以簽名蓋章或按執印但是按執印的時候必須主任管理人跟主任監察員兩個人都要同時在那邊合照那這個規定我們在投票所工作人員的手冊裡面跟講習中都有去強調那當然也是會有部分少數的這個投票所的工作人員可能基於便利或是說"},{"start":321.357,"end":337.571,"text":"他誤解或是說他不懂這些規定然後會有這件事情的情況那這個部分我們今年會再加強的宣導然後教育訓練的時候會要求地方這方面都要加強這如果放在這裡成立呢這會死耶這真的會發生什麼的呢所以這便當的情形啦對啊"},{"start":341.314,"end":357.985,"text":"所以你們這個講席的時候就要很嚴肅跟人家說選舉選輸人不可以說嘛,如果要做表就不可以嘛尤其是PK的時候,短臂相接的時候,用這種方式誰才會會服啊"},{"start":359.981,"end":362.903,"text":"所以跟主委講,我們對你很大的期許"},{"start":381.786,"end":394.41,"text":"沒有這樣的期待,大家都對他非常堅定,所以要把他擔當搭起來主任管理員、主任監察員,還有一些省務人員的遴選,不能這樣濫於充數,這樣我們看不下去所以在這裡幫你報告再來"},{"start":403.997,"end":430.128,"text":"空白紙當選票,沒發選票給候選人,有人沒得冠軍票蓋手印,然後就剛剛講的,上傳電腦Lockdown也都有問題這一些我今天想要提出來因為你剛才接,我不想跟你苛責,但是你可以讓別人跟你亂講你自己要清楚,我們都在看,這樣好不好好,謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:45:15.383000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:45:15.543000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:45:15.843000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:45:15.963000+08:00","text":"我請主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:45:15.963000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-27T10:45:16.963000+08:00","text":"蘇委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:45:16.103000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:45:16.804000+08:00","text":"主委，恭喜你！","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:45:29.103000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:45:34.504000+08:00","text":"朝野都支持你，讓你能夠高票通過，那是不簡單。","quality":1},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:45:34.504000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-27T10:45:35.905000+08:00","text":"我很珍惜！","quality":0},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:45:35.905000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:46:00.565000+08:00","text":"大家對你都抱有很大的期許，因為我是別的委員會的，所以我的質詢時間比較短，我問你三個問題，就直接切入主題，第一個問題，以前的投票箱都是用壓克力做的會透光，但現在改用紙箱來做，這樣折來折去的，有人就懷疑裡面可以夾帶選票作弊。","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:46:00.745000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:46:01.426000+08:00","text":"對於這個部分，你有什麼看法？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:46:10.363000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:46:16.910000+08:00","text":"紙箱可能比較方便，實施之後，各地的反應也都不錯……","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:46:18.171000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:46:21.174000+08:00","text":"大家罵到沒力了，怎麼會不錯？","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:46:22.195000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:46:23.337000+08:00","text":"同仁是這樣跟我說的。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:46:23.337000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-27T10:46:30.331000+08:00","text":"感覺好像準備要作弊的樣子，這會被人懷疑啦！","quality":0.263},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:46:30.331000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:46:43.917000+08:00","text":"主委，你可以看仔細一點，紙箱一掀開，裡面就有折的地方，那裡都可以塞東西，這有很大的疑慮啦！","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:46:45.377000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:46:46.658000+08:00","text":"主委，這我先跟你提出這一點。","quality":0.583},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:46:46.858000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:47:15.754000+08:00","text":"第二個問題，上次屏東作弊的問題、瑕疵的問題，喊某某人一票、某某人一票，這樣分頭喊了15次，我們選舉就是要唱票、亮票再整票，這是標準的動作，我看過中選會……像這樣票一直丟、一直丟，透過網路傳到全世界都看到了，這種可以嗎？","quality":0.598},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:47:15.754000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:47:23.920000+08:00","text":"不行啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:47:24.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:47:24.781000+08:00","text":"不行嘛！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:47:24.781000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-27T10:47:28.242000+08:00","text":"所以你今年在講習的時候，就要讓選務人員知道要很謹慎，不然有可能被告。","quality":0.258},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:47:28.242000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:47:51.514000+08:00","text":"這些選務人員都是從公教人員或老師那邊拉出來的，你們要跟他講，你不能違法、違規，不然的話，你拿一點點出席費，如果出事是會被去關的！","quality":0.877},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:47:52.815000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:47:56.182000+08:00","text":"你的退休金也沒了、你的工作也沒了，結果人家在做縣長、人家在做市長，你在做「戇頭仔」。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:47:59.472000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:48:07.396000+08:00","text":"主委，這都是你要負責的，你現在當主委，你最大的職責就是這個，全臺灣都是你要負最終責任。","quality":0.974},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:48:07.617000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:48:08.597000+08:00","text":"你的看法如何？","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"游主任委員盈隆","start":"2026-05-27T10:48:11.419000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:48:23.886000+08:00","text":"選務人員的訓練是中選會每次都很重視的項目，針對蘇委員提到的情形，我們會來注意並加強。","quality":0.538},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:48:24.666000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-27T10:48:33.714000+08:00","text":"因為選務人員很多，所以遴選的時候要小心，也要講清楚，像這個從頭到尾都在亂搞啊！","quality":0.771},{"speaker":"蘇委員清泉","start":"2026-05-27T10:48:36.477000+08:00","g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