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太精彩了尤其是在那個比賽的環境都是外國的選手我們在別人的課場他表現非常好而且事後他自己回覆他說他完全不會緊張"},{"start":160.299,"end":168.606,"text":"因為就是把自己最熱愛的這個舞蹈把它展現出來那所以呢最近我們全運所推出了5月8號推出了新興跟極限運動輔導計畫這個其實很多的這個新興運動的從事者大家都很興奮啊因為這個新興運動這等於是我們政府第一次正式來來定義跟界定然後我們要來予以輔導"},{"start":182.358,"end":191.22,"text":"像性性運動有包含有街舞有皮克球有這個SOP歷史華獎然後像電競這個包含在其中極限運動我們有越野跑超級馬拉松也都包含在這些項目當中那我想這個非常好我上個週末也參加了一個長明賞這個我們運動部也有支持非常感謝這是由台灣長跑界的這些這個熱愛"},{"start":206.445,"end":212.924,"text":"從事的人員大家一起民間創立的一個獎項特別為了台灣的超馬跟長跑運動"},{"start":214.389,"end":236.347,"text":"來去創立的那我覺得我在參與當中我覺得有民間力量這種由下而下的這種力量其實真的讓人很感動所以現在運動部也要一起來支持全運輸我覺得就特別重要了不過我們看到幾個問題第一個就是說因為是新的計畫申請的期限從公告到截止就只有一個月的時間其實我們之前在運動俱樂部這個計畫的時候當時就有蠻多團體反應說好像有點太趕因為畢竟是第一次"},{"start":242.151,"end":264.476,"text":"之前也沒看過相關計畫所以從看到計畫公告到撰寫一個月真的有點倉促那這次的新興極限運動計畫5月半號公告之後截止也是一個月的時間啦我看你們在運動區這部計畫其實後來有些滾動式的這個調整包含了截止日跟後面的執行效期我希望這個新興極限運動我們也可以參考來做這個滾動式的調整"},{"start":266.276,"end":274.744,"text":"謝謝委員關心這件事情我們會持續的來滾動的修正因為今年是第一年我們前半年花了很多的時間去研擬一些辦法因為辦法如果沒有很明確"},{"start":276.488,"end":296.752,"text":"對方很難就是受補助方很難依循所以在時間上面的確是比較趕了一點我們明年一定會提早公佈來延長這樣的生意是多加來協助那第二個很重要是我們全運署其實我們當時在成立的時候我們有說我們要拓展國際交流但是我看你們現在全運署相關的計畫這個補助國內賽事補助國內講習補助國內推廣活動你們目前有沒有國際交流相關的補助計畫"},{"start":303.954,"end":327.877,"text":"因為我辦公室詢問下來竟然是沒有請我們副市長回答這個問題這個部分我們有在規劃當中那因為新興的這塊極限這塊也是跟國際的潮流比較相關所以這個部分將來我們在定義然後輔導這些團體之後我們會看看我們的發展是如何所以市長我覺得現在才在規劃太晚了 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趕快規劃出來再來最後是這個全運署目前的預算是年度預算是多少"},{"start":386.857,"end":403.346,"text":"公務預算是24億公務預算是24億嘛另外運發基金93然後整個運動不是96億我要講的是這過去這個體育署的預算年度預算不算那個運發基金最少也是50億至多有70多億結果來到全運輸"},{"start":404.98,"end":412.691,"text":"整個砍半剩下24億我認為這個預算規模是不夠的我們既然要大力來支持全民運動這個相關的計畫推出來像你這個運動俱樂部來申請有1300件啊結果你們落選了幾件"},{"start":423.223,"end":435.607,"text":"最後可以補助幾件其實我們總共有2500多件來申請對所以相當的踴躍所以呢因為就馬上就要審明年你們就要送明年的預算進來這個我也會來跟這個運動部來討論我認為全運輸的預算規模要再往上升"},{"start":440.508,"end":466.99,"text":"這樣我們才能夠去支持我們剛剛講的真正落實到基層的全民運動以及全民運動的國際交流我了解委員的期待去年在編今年的預算的時候沒有想到在這一塊會有那麼大的一個需求而我們部長也充分的了解這個狀況我們現階段正在匡列明年的預算據我的理解全民署已經比在明年的預算會比今年還要多出一些金額出來我認為是需要提高那我也很支持謝謝市長謝謝委員謝謝"},{"start":469.352,"end":472.479,"text":"谢谢吴佩奕委员的质询请次长回座"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:50:07.635000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:50:07.816000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:50:08.056000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:50:08.096000+08:00","text":"請運動部黃次長。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-28T10:50:08.096000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:50:08.137000+08:00","text":"有請黃次長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:50:08.137000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-28T10:50:15.810000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:50:15.810000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:50:15.810000+08:00","text":"次長好。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:50:16.231000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:50:37.949000+08:00","text":"今天進行國民體育法修法的詢答，上午我其實做過提案說明，但還是想要再次請教，有關我這次的提案就是單項協會理事單一性別不得少於三分之一，我認為這是國民體育法基本的精神，國民體育法要保障的是國內健全的體育環境，這當然就包括了性別平權。","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:50:39.170000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:50:52.776000+08:00","text":"過去運動部是用輔導的方式，成效其實都不到三成，所以這次我們希望用修法、入法的方式，未來能夠保障單項協會的理事會能夠達到性別平權，運動部是否支持這個提案？","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:50:53.037000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:50:57.039000+08:00","text":"我們支持，我們不但支持委員的提案，還希望擴大它的範圍。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:50:57.039000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:51:11.968000+08:00","text":"委員的提案提到的是在單項協會，即特定體育團體的理事會要有三分之一性別的保障，我們認為甚至連監事都應該要有所要求，所以我們建議把監事會的比例也納入這次修法範圍。","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:51:12.988000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:51:25.137000+08:00","text":"非常好，我也支持，因為運動部今年簽署了IWG宣言，就是希望有更高比例的女性可以成為運動相關組織的領導跟決策角色。","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:51:25.938000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:51:54.842000+08:00","text":"事實上，臺灣的女性真的在國際體育賽場都拿下非常亮眼的成績，臺灣在歷屆奧運一共拿到了43面獎牌，包括其中兩面是李洋部長的金牌，而這43面獎牌當中，有26面、超過一半的獎牌是由女性選手所奪下，所以我希望運動部可以來做女性運動員的後盾……","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:51:54.842000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-28T10:51:55.842000+08:00","text":"一定的。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:51:55.782000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:51:57.063000+08:00","text":"我們也一起來努力。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:51:57.944000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:14.938000+08:00","text":"接下來，我要特別跟次長討論關於全民運動署，也就是在運動部成立之後，其實我們有很大的目標跟盼望，希望政府可以有更多資源以及相關計畫支持全民運動。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:52:15.058000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:25.467000+08:00","text":"最近我們看到臺灣的舞者Una妹子子，在美國拿下了今（2026）年Red Bull大賽東北區的冠軍……","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:52:25.467000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:26.367000+08:00","text":"我有看到這個報導。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:52:26.367000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:27.568000+08:00","text":"即將要參與決賽。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:52:27.788000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:28.149000+08:00","text":"次長，你有看到？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:52:28.169000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:30.530000+08:00","text":"我有看到這個報導，非常興奮、非常厲害！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:52:30.530000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:32.632000+08:00","text":"這個表現真的是令人興奮，太精彩了！","quality":0.733},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:52:32.732000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:35.334000+08:00","text":"尤其是在那個比賽的環境都是外國的選手……","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:52:35.334000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:36.334000+08:00","text":"高壓力。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:52:35.754000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:38.616000+08:00","text":"對，我們在別人的主場，他表現得非常好……","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:52:38.616000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:39.616000+08:00","text":"非常厲害。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:52:38.776000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:46.242000+08:00","text":"而且事後他自己回顧，說他完全不會緊張，因為就是把自己最熱愛的舞蹈展現出來。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:52:47.343000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:52:50.606000+08:00","text":"5月8號全運署推出了新興跟極限運動輔導計畫，讓很多新興運動的從事者都很興奮，因為等於是政府第一次正式來定義跟界定新興運動，然後要予以輔導。","quality":0.873},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:53:05.038000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:53:09.699000+08:00","text":"新興運動包含街舞、匹克球、SUP（立式滑槳），像電競都包含在其中。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:53:09.719000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:53:11.860000+08:00","text":"極限運動有越野跑、超級馬拉松，也都包含在這些項目當中，這個非常好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:53:11.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:53:37.010000+08:00","text":"我上個週末也參加了一個長名賞，運動部也有支持，非常感謝，這是由臺灣熱愛長跑界的人員一起創立的一個民間獎項，特別為了臺灣的超馬跟長跑運動創立的。","quality":0.924},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:53:38.651000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:53:48.018000+08:00","text":"我在參與當中，這種由民間由下而上的力量真的讓我很感動，所以現在運動部全運署也要一起來支持，我覺得就特別重要了。","quality":0.843},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:53:48.339000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:54:10.372000+08:00","text":"不過我們看到幾個問題，第一個、因為是新的計畫，申請的期限從公告到截止就只有一個月的時間，其實之前運動俱樂部計畫就有蠻多團體反映好像有點太趕，畢竟是第一次，因為之前沒看過相關計畫，所以從看到計畫公告到撰寫只有一個月，真的有點倉促。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:54:11.393000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:54:26.456000+08:00","text":"這次新興極限運動計畫5月8號公告之後，也是一個月的時間就截止，我看你們在運動俱樂部計畫後來有些滾動式調整，包含了截止日跟後面的執行效期，我希望新興極限運動也可以參考這個來滾動式調整。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:54:28.276000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:54:28.697000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員關心。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:54:28.977000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:54:45.750000+08:00","text":"這件事情我們會持續地滾動修正，因為今年是第一年，我們前半年花了很多時間研擬一些辦法，如果辦法沒有很明確，受補助方很難依循，所以在時間上面的確是比較趕了一點，我們明年一定會提早公布延長這樣的申請並改善。","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:54:47.010000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:54:47.890000+08:00","text":"多加來協助。是的。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:54:48.410000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:54:58.752000+08:00","text":"第二個、很重要的是，當時成立全運署時有說要拓展國際交流，但是我看了現在全運署相關的計畫，有補助國內賽事、補助國內講習、補助國內推廣活動，但你們目前有沒有國際交流相關的補助計畫？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:55:05.954000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:55:07.676000+08:00","text":"因為我辦公室詢問下來，竟然是沒有！","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:55:08.276000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:55:10.979000+08:00","text":"我請副署長回答這個個別問題，好嗎？","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:55:10.979000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-28T10:55:11.979000+08:00","text":"好，請說明。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳副署長建遠","start":"2026-05-28T10:55:10.979000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:55:12.040000+08:00","text":"這個部分我們有在規劃當中。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳副署長建遠","start":"2026-05-28T10:55:13.141000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:55:24.692000+08:00","text":"因為新興的極限這塊也是跟國際潮流比較相關，所以將來我們在定義、輔導這些團體之後，會看看發展如何，我們會把這個部分納入考量。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:55:27.214000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:55:33.179000+08:00","text":"次長，我覺得現在才在規劃太晚、太慢了，因為成立運動部，國際交流就是重中之重。對。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:55:33.839000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:55:39.943000+08:00","text":"我舉個例子，像街舞賽事，之前他們要出國去比賽，當時是文化部補助的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:55:40.944000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:55:51.090000+08:00","text":"現在文化部說，因為街舞已經是運動部的新興運動，文化部不補助了，結果一問全運署，全運署說不好意思，現在沒有國際交流計畫，所以太慢了！","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:55:52.351000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:55:57.274000+08:00","text":"國際交流不只是街舞這個項目，全民運動要走出臺灣、要走進世界舞台。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:55:57.835000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:56:02.939000+08:00","text":"運動外交是運動部成立的時候被賦予的任務之一，我們會來努力改善，應該要有……既然是新興運動……沒錯。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:56:03.159000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:56:05.841000+08:00","text":"全民運動的國際交流計畫，你們要趕快規劃出來。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:56:05.841000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-28T10:56:08.202000+08:00","text":"對不起！","quality":0},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:56:08.202000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:56:08.883000+08:00","text":"插您的話。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:56:08.883000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:56:19.409000+08:00","text":"既然是新興運動，它多數是來自於外部的，如果沒有良善的、好的國際交流，我們無法與國際接軌，所以這件事情我們會持續來改善。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:56:19.990000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:56:22.231000+08:00","text":"一定要來規劃，趕快規劃出來！","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:56:22.551000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:56:27.575000+08:00","text":"最後，全運署目前年度預算是多少？","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:56:28.857000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:56:30.018000+08:00","text":"公務預算是24億。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:56:30.018000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:56:35.420000+08:00","text":"公務預算是24億，另外有運發基金93億，然後整個運動部是96億。","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:56:35.420000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:56:51.286000+08:00","text":"我要講的是過去體育署年度預算，不算運發基金，最少也是50億，至多有七十多億，結果來到全運署整個砍半，剩下24億，我認為這個預算規模是不夠的。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:56:51.767000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:56:54.671000+08:00","text":"既然我們要大力支持全民運動，推出相關計畫……像運動俱樂部來申請的有1,300件，結果你們錄取幾件？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:57:05.223000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:57:06.143000+08:00","text":"最後可以補助幾件？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳副署長建遠","start":"2026-05-28T10:57:06.763000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:57:10.544000+08:00","text":"其實總共有兩千五百多件來申請……","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:57:10.544000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:57:12.165000+08:00","text":"所以相當地踴躍？對。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:57:12.665000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:57:28.273000+08:00","text":"因為馬上你們就要送明年的預算進來審查，我也會跟運動部討論，我認為全運署的預算規模要再往上升，這樣才能夠支持我們剛剛講的，真正落實到基層的全民運動以及全民運動的國際交流。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:57:28.453000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:57:30.155000+08:00","text":"我了解委員的期待。","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:57:30.375000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:57:45.908000+08:00","text":"去年在編今年預算的時候，沒有想到在這一塊會有那麼大的需求，而部長也充分了解這個狀況，我們現階段正在匡列明年的預算，據我的理解，全民署明年的預算會比今年還要多出一些金額。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:57:46.168000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:57:48.410000+08:00","text":"我認為需要提高，我也很支持。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員沛憶","start":"2026-05-28T10:57:48.810000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:57:48.970000+08:00","text":"謝謝次長。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"黃次長啟煌","start":"2026-05-28T10:57:48.970000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:57:48.990000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-28T10:57:48.990000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:57:52.755000+08:00","text":"謝謝吳沛憶委員的質詢。","quality":0.4},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-28T10:57:53.757000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-05-28T10:57:54.459000+08:00","text":"請次長回座。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-05-28T10:57:54.959000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-05-28T10:57:58.959000+08:00","text":"下一位有請吳思瑤委員進行詢答。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}