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的犯罪事實的部分那除了行為人之外我們依照刑法的話其實包括共同的幫助犯、教唆犯這些我們都已經納入"},{"start":83.832,"end":102.994,"text":"所以全部只要在這個倒採殺死的相關人等不論是地主 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