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第二個我們再請警政署張署長"},{"start":672.356,"end":697.484,"text":"署長第二個我要請教的重點就是我們要加強茶器的量能那我相信署長這邊也有跟地方的各我們全台灣的各警局特別要求我們警察同仁要加強茶器那這邊我當時去拜訪你的時候有特別拜託因為現在警察同仁非常辛苦他們除了茶器以外應該也要給他們一些獎勵讓他們在第一線茶器的時候我相信不管100天或是後續的茶器的量能那請問署長這邊有沒有"},{"start":699.045,"end":720.637,"text":"有沒有給他們一些這個未來的一些像酒駕都有酒駕的獎金等等那獎金的部分當然法務部會訂定這是茶几毒品的獎金會做規範那在獎勵的部分除了這個原有的茶几毒品的獎勵之外對於這一次這個獨駕對於不管是取締到機車汽車大貨車或鋸車我們這個獎勵的辦法已經規範了已經有起這場給全國來做一個執行"},{"start":727,"end":737.829,"text":"那請問都已經放到你可不可以稍微講一下現在我們一般基層警察對 譬如講像我們先查集毒品的這個個案獎勵之外查集到機車查集到譬如說機車的部分的這個毒價大概在額外再加一支獎勵汽車就兩支的這個獎勵那這個獎勵都是額外再增加的"},{"start":751.041,"end":762.417,"text":"這個計畫我們今天有朝你好朝你好 什麼時候會發到各地方的就發到各警察機關來做執行大概什麼時候會發放到我想這個月就可以發放了月底前嗎 可以嗎可以 沒問題好 第三個有請法務部好"},{"start":765.185,"end":783.513,"text":"法務部,謝謝,那其實針對我相信今天非常多的委員,就在加重刑責的部分,你可不可以講一下,就法務部的現在的見解,就獨駕致人於死,跟獨駕致死累犯,你們現在法務部,你們修法的刑期要調整到多少?"},{"start":784.591,"end":811.796,"text":"跟委員報告我們會在就是我們本部已經有就是法案的部分已經有修訂了但是刑期的部分是不是說我們會就是說等到正式訂了以後再報告現在法務部不是已經新聞稿都出來了你們到底現在要修整怎麼樣我們會針對我們的獨駕跟酒駕的部分致死的部分你們現在要修到怎麼樣的情況我們往上提升提升到多少這個細部的部分是不是等我們跟行政院報告後再跟委員報告"},{"start":812.816,"end":832.083,"text":"我要跟法務部拜託現在獨駕致死尤其現在這個案件數已經超過200倍了一定要有效的來嚇阻這樣的情形所以本席有提出法案一定要加重刑責所以拜託法務部一定要參考我們各委員的版本跟各委員溝通來去做一個最好來嚇阻的一個效力所以我要請部長"},{"start":834.216,"end":847.895,"text":"部長所以本席還是要拜託針對各個單位都非常的辛苦針對我們基層的所有員警他在加強查緝的這個部分我拜託部長要給他們多一些鼓勵好嗎"},{"start":849.082,"end":865.96,"text":"是包括他們在第一線執勤時候的風險我們在勤前教育還有在這個攔檢之後呢必須要的加獎層次呢其實警政署都已經有通令全國的治安機關尤其警察機關交通警察要特別留意自己自身的安全好謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:49:19.626000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:49:21.588000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席、各位委員、各位官員，大家早。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:49:22.168000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:49:35.602000+08:00","text":"有請內政部劉世芳部長、海委會張忠龍副主委、法務部馮常次以及財政部關務署彭署長。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:49:48.336000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:49:48.616000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:49:49.577000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:49:52.679000+08:00","text":"今天是針對毒駕的專案報告。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:49:53.799000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:50:18.735000+08:00","text":"本席非常遺憾，大家可以看到最近毒駕橫行，從內政部的專案報告可以看到，毒駕的刑法移送數110年是43件，到115年1到4月，尤其在114年年底的移送數高達8,659件，所以現在大家都在說，毒駕是越抓越多，毒駕的移送數從110年到114年上升了將近200倍。","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:50:29.242000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:51:15.777000+08:00","text":"在我的選區中和也發生了毒駕造成一死一傷的案件，引發社會譁然，本席感到非常傷心也非常憤怒，所以我從115年5月26日起召開了4場會議，包括跨部會的討論，也拜訪了警政署張署長，甚至請海巡署來討論今年1月在嘉義破獲用製造依托咪酯的原料「依托咪酯酸」來製造新興毒品的案件，以及今年6月2日我召開了第4場有關於毒審會如何審查毒品的相關問題。","quality":0.743},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:51:15.777000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:51:25.788000+08:00","text":"所以今天我要就教三個部分：第一個，打擊毒品的源頭；第二個，擴大查緝的量能；第三個，修法加重刑責。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:51:25.788000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:52:19.028000+08:00","text":"第一個，我發現現在政府針對毒品的源頭是完全沒有掌握，今年1月份在嘉義破獲了一起30歲年輕人在製毒工廠製造毒品的案件，當時海巡署配合警察去到現場，發現了依托咪酯的原料叫做依托咪酯酸，結果開協調會的時候，居然發現「依托咪酯酸」現在並非臺灣所列管的毒品，所以大家可以看到今天海巡署報告的第1頁居然寫說，希望法務部可以把「依托咪酯酸」（即製造喪屍煙彈的原料）列管為第四級毒品，請問部長知道這件事情嗎？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T09:52:19.028000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T09:52:20.849000+08:00","text":"委員，我們了解這部分，但是……","quality":0.182},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:52:20.849000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:52:25.192000+08:00","text":"居然可以在臺灣製造毒品，且毒品的原料依托咪酯酸不是管制類毒品，部長，你知道這件事情嗎？","quality":0.385},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T09:52:37.565000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:52:46.190000+08:00","text":"我知道這個部分，但是要由主政機關法務部來跟各位確認，行政院長在邀請各部會討論毒駕零容忍的時候有提起這件事情……","quality":0.51},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:52:46.310000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:52:47.971000+08:00","text":"部長，你知道發生什麼事情了嗎？","quality":0.692},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T09:52:48.271000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:52:49.252000+08:00","text":"可能要列入列管，而且可能會提早到6月時就列入……","quality":0.35},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:52:51.153000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:53:04.482000+08:00","text":"部長，我要跟你報告，今天海巡署的報告裡面寫，因為「依托咪酯酸」並非臺灣所列管的第四級毒品，所以現在海巡署正在偵辦當中。","quality":0.731},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:53:05.803000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:53:20.633000+08:00","text":"從今年1月到現在6月，6月中才說要召開毒審會來報告，在這五個月的空窗期，販毒集團還在進口依托咪酯酸，即喪屍煙彈的原料，到底發生什麼事情？","quality":0.746},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-06-03T09:53:23.664000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:53:39.968000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，在數據上面，為什麼毒駕的案件會變多、依托咪酯會變多，是因為警政署是從114年11月才開始使用唾液快篩，113年的……","quality":0.796},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:53:40.168000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:03.034000+08:00","text":"副主委，不好意思，其實我有開過協調會，原因就是海巡署檢測毒品原料的量能不足，所以他也沒有跟警政署相關來配合，才拖到現在都五個月以後了，依托咪酯的原料「依托咪酯酸」還沒有辦法送到毒審會去做檢驗。","quality":0.828},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:03.034000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:08.996000+08:00","text":"所以部長，你未來是不是應該要召開跨部會、跨局處的會議，找大家來協調？","quality":0.767},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:11.717000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:18.400000+08:00","text":"因為現在販毒集團還可以進口依托咪酯酸到臺灣來，並藏在臺灣某一個角落，這個問題是相當嚴重的！","quality":0.643},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:19.400000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:26.943000+08:00","text":"我再跟委員說明，因為我們當初查到這個不明物質的時候，我們並不曉得這是什麼，我們檢測……","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:26.943000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:28.584000+08:00","text":"沒錯，就是你不知道是什麼嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:28.584000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:29.584000+08:00","text":"你的查緝量能、你檢驗的量能也不夠。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:28.904000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:37.686000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們所有毒品資料庫的圖譜裡面並沒有這樣東西，所以我們會跟刑事警察局合作……","quality":0.641},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:38.566000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:41.607000+08:00","text":"那我請問，這是不是喪屍煙彈的原料之一？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:42.267000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:42.967000+08:00","text":"而且是重要原料。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:42.967000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:43.967000+08:00","text":"因為這個原料是沒有列管的……","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:43.047000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:44.048000+08:00","text":"請問副主委，這是不是重要原料？","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:44.048000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:45.048000+08:00","text":"是沒有列管的。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:44.068000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:54:44.768000+08:00","text":"那是不是喪屍煙彈的原料？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-06-03T09:54:50.429000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:55:08.216000+08:00","text":"對，是它的原料沒有錯，但是它沒有列管，所以我們花了一段時間去瞭解，因為要把它列到毒品審議委員會裡面要有一個程序，就是你要把它所有檢驗品相關的這些化學結構分析結果……","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:55:08.817000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:55:39.158000+08:00","text":"謝謝，請部長回答，已經過了五個月，到今天本席在這邊質詢，毒審會都還沒辦法開會，所以第一個，我認為我們的源頭控制真的是出了非常大的問題，所以本席要拜託部長，你應該做跨部會的協調，針對新興毒品，尤其喪屍煙彈的原料「依托咪酯酸」，這個學名是我們最近才知道的，應該由海巡署配合警政署相關的一起來打擊犯罪。","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:55:39.378000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:55:53.691000+08:00","text":"第二個，我要問的是，剛剛我講的這個案例，專案報告上有寫，三十多歲的年輕人手上持有934公斤、將近1噸的毒品原料，我那天問海巡署，現在到底是誰在查緝？","quality":0.774},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:55:53.691000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:55:58.596000+08:00","text":"他說，不好意思，是海巡署在查緝，因為連警政署都不能介入相關的案件。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:55:59.337000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:56:05.262000+08:00","text":"所以我要拜託部長，現在已經過五個多月了，我再詢問海巡署說，查緝的狀況如何？","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:56:06.043000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:56:09.366000+08:00","text":"他只回答我四個字，現在在加強擴大偵辦。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:56:09.366000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:56:13.170000+08:00","text":"已經過了五個月，我擔心會「查無此人」，無法繼續追查。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T09:56:16.153000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:56:24.540000+08:00","text":"報告委員，剛剛我已經跟委員報告過，第一個跨部會，包括海巡、法務部，他們都很認真，我們也知道……","quality":0.795},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:56:24.540000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T09:56:25.540000+08:00","text":"我知道大家絕對是非常認真……","quality":0},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T09:56:24.700000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:56:33.488000+08:00","text":"委員，我直接回應你的部分，行政院有關毒審會的部分，當然主管機關是法務部，但是我們已經提出來，就是在6月17日的時候，毒審會會把你所說的依托咪酯酸列進去。","quality":0.682},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:56:34.869000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:56:36.671000+08:00","text":"法務部的官員有在嗎？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:56:36.671000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:56:37.051000+08:00","text":"法務部，請你回答。","quality":1},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T09:56:41.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:56:56.689000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，像您剛剛提的這種先驅原料，如果是屬於緝毒機關沒有列管且認為有預警必要的話，我們查緝到以後，各查緝機關會把它報到毒品審議委員會來討論……","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:56:56.689000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:56:57.609000+08:00","text":"請問法務部，你們是多久開一次毒審會？","quality":0.562},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T09:56:57.609000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:56:57.809000+08:00","text":"三個月開一次。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:57:03.232000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:57:15.060000+08:00","text":"這個也要拜託法務部，遇到這些新興毒品，不要跟過去一樣三個月開一次，因為你們有一條法律是說，如果有必要的時候，可以隨時召開，你到現在還跟我回答說三個月召開一次……","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T09:57:15.140000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:57:20.123000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，三個月是定期開，臨時的是都可以隨時開。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:57:22.209000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:57:34.204000+08:00","text":"是不是可以該開的趕快開，到現在我在質詢的時候，你還是要說三個月開，現在販毒集團都還是可以把依托咪酯的原料在臺灣製造、在臺灣加工。","quality":0.881},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T09:57:35.683000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:57:36.263000+08:00","text":"我們在目前……","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:57:36.644000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:57:39.665000+08:00","text":"所以我要請部長，部長，你大概聽懂我的意思了吧？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:57:40.185000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:57:55.570000+08:00","text":"所以第一個我拜託的是，我召開的協調會，我希望的是各部會都相當的認真，可是海巡在抓製造新興毒品的先驅原料的時候，海巡並沒有檢測相關毒品的量能。","quality":0.954},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:57:56.451000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:58:11.137000+08:00","text":"第二個，法務部毒審會在召開會議的時候，也是相當的緩慢，所以現在我必須要說，依托咪酯的原料到現在，你說隨便一個人進口到臺灣來後，根本沒有辦法查！","quality":0.891},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:58:11.698000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:58:38.539000+08:00","text":"第三個，我也要拜託警政署要協助海巡，不能讓海巡單位自己一個人加強查緝，他在我們的陸域上根本沒有管轄權，已經過五個月了，這個30歲的年輕人還可以攜帶將近一噸重的毒品原料，結果現在跟我說，查不到他的金流、他的錢從哪裡來、他從哪裡進口、他的同夥是誰以及金流來自哪裡，背後的販毒集團根本就查不到。","quality":0.892},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:58:39.140000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:59:01.093000+08:00","text":"所以本席希望部長回去趕快跨部會的來去協商、來去討論，毒審會未來也不要永遠都一定要三個月才開一次會，因為現在新興毒品依托咪酯的先驅原料「依托咪酯酸」，只要改一個化學程式，馬上就可以進口到臺灣來了，這是非常嚴重的事情！","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:59:01.593000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:59:06.615000+08:00","text":"其實現在人民都在懷疑，為什麼大家在加強查緝，卻還有這麼多的毒品？","quality":0.793},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:59:07.135000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:59:09.336000+08:00","text":"到底有多少喪屍煙彈、到底從哪裡來的？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:59:09.956000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:59:10.516000+08:00","text":"都不知道！","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:59:10.777000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:59:16.699000+08:00","text":"所以拜託，源頭管理非常重要，拜託部長答應我回去趕快召開協調會，好嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T09:59:18.391000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:59:23.576000+08:00","text":"報告委員，我剛剛已經第三次跟您回應，跨部會已經在處理這件事情，而且已經跟委員報告過……","quality":0.711},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:59:23.796000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:59:27.159000+08:00","text":"但我剛剛講的問題完全沒有解決啊！","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T09:59:27.339000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:59:39.910000+08:00","text":"委員，您聽我講，6月17日要召開這個會議，我在這個地方講第三次了，跨部會會處理，包括您剛剛所說的先驅化學原料，並不是像你剛剛所說的好像各行其是，不是！","quality":0.844},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T09:59:40.070000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:59:45.534000+08:00","text":"每個部會都非常認真，而且行政院也多次召開相關的具體作為。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:59:47.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:59:51.697000+08:00","text":"部長，請問一下，你們現在偵查這批毒品的原料，是誰在偵查當中？","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T09:59:54.602000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:59:55.142000+08:00","text":"你講的是哪一批原料？","quality":0.444},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:59:55.864000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T09:59:58.327000+08:00","text":"就是嘉義製毒工廠的事情，現在是誰在偵查當中？","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T09:59:59.834000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:00:02.135000+08:00","text":"還是海巡在偵查，警政署並沒有介入協助啊！","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-06-03T10:00:03.056000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:00:10.899000+08:00","text":"因為我們這邊已經報地檢署在偵辦，所以我們現在在溯源偵辦當中，還要再一段時間，因為毒品的偵辦非常困難。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:00:11.880000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:00:13.180000+08:00","text":"副主委，已經五個多月了，還在繼續偵辦當中？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"張副主任委員忠龍","start":"2026-06-03T10:00:13.340000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:00:25.566000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，毒品的查緝其實是非常困難的，因為它設有很多斷點，不是像委員講的，我現在查就可以查到後源的部分，所以特別跟委員報告。謝謝。","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:00:25.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:00:27.467000+08:00","text":"再來請警政署張署長。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"張署長榮興","start":"2026-06-03T10:00:27.467000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T10:00:29.356000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:00:29.356000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:01:00.748000+08:00","text":"署長，第二個我要請教的重點是要加強查緝的量能，我相信署長也有跟全臺灣各警局特別要求警察同仁要加強查緝，我當時去拜訪你的時候也特別拜託，因為現在警察同仁非常辛苦，除了查緝以外，也應該要給他們一些獎勵，讓他們在第一線查緝的時候，不管是100天或是後續的查緝量能，請問署長未來有沒有給他們一些獎勵，像酒駕都有酒駕獎金等相關制度？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"張署長榮興","start":"2026-06-03T10:01:02.108000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:01:17.617000+08:00","text":"獎金的部分法務部會訂定，查緝毒品的獎金會做規範，獎勵部分除了原有的查緝毒品獎勵之外，對於這一次毒駕，不管是取締到機車、汽車、大貨車或拒測，我們的獎勵辦法已經規範了，已經有這個方案給全國來做執行，這是額外的獎勵。","quality":0.811},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:01:26.362000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:01:30.746000+08:00","text":"你可不可以稍微講一下，現在一般基層警察加強查緝毒駕……","quality":0.792},{"speaker":"張署長榮興","start":"2026-06-03T10:01:30.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:01:50.364000+08:00","text":"除了查緝毒品的個案獎勵之外，查緝到機車部分的毒駕，額外再加1支獎勵，汽車部分是2支的獎勵，這個獎勵都是額外再增加的，這個計畫我們已經有草擬好。","quality":0.794},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:01:50.504000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:01:51.666000+08:00","text":"什麼時候會發到各地方……","quality":1},{"speaker":"張署長榮興","start":"2026-06-03T10:01:51.866000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:01:53.208000+08:00","text":"就會發到各警察機關來做執行。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:01:53.368000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:01:54.190000+08:00","text":"大概什麼時候會發放？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張署長榮興","start":"2026-06-03T10:01:55.351000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:01:56.153000+08:00","text":"這個月就可以發放了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:01:56.333000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:01:57.234000+08:00","text":"月底前，可以嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張署長榮興","start":"2026-06-03T10:01:57.234000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:01:57.695000+08:00","text":"可以，沒問題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:01:58.176000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:02:20.493000+08:00","text":"第三個有請法務部，今天有非常多委員針對加重刑責的部分，你可不可以講一下就法務部現在的見解，毒駕致人於死與毒駕致死累犯，現在法務部修法的刑期要調整到多少？","quality":0.915},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T10:02:21.591000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:02:32.433000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，本部就法案的部分已經有修訂，但是刑期部分，我們會等到正式定了以後報行政院，再跟委員報告。","quality":0.822},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:02:33.033000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:02:36.494000+08:00","text":"法務部不是新聞稿都出來了，現在要修成怎麼樣？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T10:02:36.494000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:02:39.754000+08:00","text":"對，我們會針對毒駕和酒駕的部分做一個區隔。","quality":0.579},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:02:39.774000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:02:43.355000+08:00","text":"致死的部分現在要修到怎麼樣的情況？","quality":1},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T10:02:43.355000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:02:44.075000+08:00","text":"我們會往上提升。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:02:44.455000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:02:45.095000+08:00","text":"提升到多少？","quality":1},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T10:02:46.095000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:02:48.776000+08:00","text":"至於細部的部分，是不是等我們跟行政院報告後，再跟委員報告？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:02:49.816000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:03:08.102000+08:00","text":"好，我要跟法務部拜託，尤其是現在毒駕致死的案件數已經超過200倍了，一定要有效地來嚇阻這樣的情形，所以本席有提出法案，一定要加重刑責，拜託法務部一定要參考我們各委員的版本，並且跟各委員溝通，以達到最好的嚇阻效力。","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:03:08.683000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:03:09.083000+08:00","text":"最後我要請部長。","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:03:11.216000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:03:24.895000+08:00","text":"部長，本席還是要拜託，各個單位都非常辛苦，針對基層的所有員警在加強查緝的部分，拜託部長要給他們多一些鼓勵，好嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T10:03:26.082000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:03:42.179000+08:00","text":"是，包括他們在第一線執勤時候的風險，我們在勤前教育，還有在攔檢之後必須要的加強層次，其實警政署都已經有通令全國的治安機關，尤其警察機關、交通警察要特別留意自己自身的安全。","quality":0.987},{"speaker":"張委員智倫","start":"2026-06-03T10:03:42.940000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T10:03:42.960000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T10:03:43.460000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T10:03:46.602857+08:00","text":"下一位請蘇巧慧委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}