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父親也要負擔嘛那父親也是要照顧媽媽嘛都是丟給這個外籍幫傭去處理就是說他從他生產開始然後等等等其實相關的家務的負擔都是給我們其實所以我勞工部在上面寫說他是多一個選擇並不是強制每個人都要去請嘛對不對就是多一個選擇有需要的人他就會來做申請嘛那你講說或許有些人他不需要或者說他自己能夠"},{"start":169.364,"end":183.059,"text":"負荷的來家庭工作分配的來那他就沒有這個需要不是說我不是說他需要或不需要是在他生產的階段會有其他的制度來去支撐他在生產階段的需求"},{"start":183.84,"end":200.048,"text":"那不是只有說好像所有東西我們都是期待只有透過幫傭來去處理沒有當然不是只有他嘛而是說有需要的人對所以有需要的人那我們有沒有辦法在女性在懷孕的時候不適的時候好不要說不要說這個可能這個"},{"start":201.669,"end":226.931,"text":"媽媽手冊拿到之後那可能最晚三個月再加點感應可能五個月你覺得這個時間五個月到生產這個時間比較久一點我們有辦法讓他們提前去申請讓他在小孩子現在的制度是你出生了之後報戶口之後他才有辦法去申請我們有辦法讓他去提前提前去做申請那當然在他一出生的時候那馬上資格就有了就可以趕快進來現在的規定大概兩到三個月應該是沒錯嘛"},{"start":231.231,"end":248.924,"text":"我們讓小孩子一出生之後有需要的在他們最需要的時候就讓他們進來我們接下來也會把其實相關的程序給簡化啦那這些程序的簡化應該也有助於其實可能可以申請到的時間可以縮短對我就希望這個目標就是媽媽在剛出生的時候在小孩子剛出生的時候是最手忙腳亂的時候"},{"start":251.626,"end":260.471,"text":"有當過家長的應該都知道最手忙腳亂的時候有沒有在他一這樣子出來的時候就給他們一些幫助有需要的人就提早給他們幫助"},{"start":262.827,"end":268.513,"text":"對 我覺得這可能要再研議要研究一下再思考一下我不是說一定要照我剛剛的建議說這個媽媽手冊出來就可以申請我不是這個意思而是說希望部長正視到小孩子剛出生的時候是媽媽跟爸爸最手忙腳亂的時候如果他們有這個需要的時候我們給他們"},{"start":280.687,"end":292.071,"text":"申請上面的一些便利最好是在分免前就能夠申請讓他們在一出生的時候就能夠有一個人能夠幫助他們不曉得這樣子一個方向部長認不認同我們可能就要研究一下好 沒關係"},{"start":294.059,"end":313.458,"text":"我當做你的研究是認真的會去研究吧會去認真的研究吧研究當然我們要去做一些研究那看多久的時候可以有一個初步的一個評估兩個月吧兩個月的時間好那我就等兩個月的時候請部長多多的討論那我講的問題也希望您能夠正式以上謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T11:58:03.255000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:58:03.375000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T11:58:03.675000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:58:04.717000+08:00","text":"麻煩邀請洪部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T11:58:04.977000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:58:05.117000+08:00","text":"有請洪部長。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T11:58:05.117000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T11:58:13.468000+08:00","text":"廖委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T11:58:13.468000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:58:13.908000+08:00","text":"部長，你好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T11:58:14.769000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:58:46.060000+08:00","text":"女性生產，不只在分娩之後和小孩子出生之後，其實在備孕過程中也都是非常辛苦，我想這應該是一個客觀而不容忽視的事實，我知道勞動部最近有放寬家庭幫傭申請門檻，也就是家中有一名12歲以下幼童就可以申請了，跟過去比是有比較放鬆的，但是過去在討論這件事情的時候，或者是過去在評分的時候，常常都是小孩子出生之後才能夠算分嘛，對不對？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T11:58:49.188000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:58:49.188000+08:00","text":"應該是。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T11:58:49.588000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:59:41.374000+08:00","text":"小孩子出生之後才能夠算分，也就是說，媽媽在懷孕之後，在他感到不適的過程當中，相對應起來，他的不適並沒有辦法在點數上面有加分，或者是說，就算現在家中有一名12歲以下的幼童，他也必須要等小孩子出生之後才有辦法申請，相關申請的程序最起碼要兩、三個月以後才能核准，也就是說，媽媽在小孩子剛剛出生的時候是最忙的時候，這段時間他反而沒有辦法去申請家庭幫傭，來減輕自己的負擔，我今天想跟部長討論的就是這件事情有沒有辦法去做調整，我的建議是能不能在媽媽已經拿到寶寶手冊之後就可以比照家中有一名12歲以下小孩子的狀況去計算相關的點數？","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T11:59:41.374000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:59:43.177000+08:00","text":"我不曉得這樣有沒有可行性，或是你們當初有沒有討論過，為什麼沒有這麼做？","quality":0.969},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T11:59:46.307000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:00:15.959000+08:00","text":"跟各位委員說明，第一個，當初在設計這個制度的時候，比方說，就像剛剛很多委員提到的，如果在生產的過程中，或者是剛剛產後的時間，其實在資助上面我們也給予產假，讓他們在恢復期去做相關的運用，我們並沒有預設說今天這個家庭家務裡面所有的事情未來絕對都是要丟給……","quality":0.817},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:00:18.845000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:00:20.686000+08:00","text":"不只媽媽，父親也要負擔嘛，對不對？","quality":0.643},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:00:21.927000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:00:22.687000+08:00","text":"父親也是要照顧媽媽嘛。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T12:00:23.088000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:00:30.333000+08:00","text":"都是丟給外籍幫傭處理，就是說，從他生產開始，相關的家務的負擔，我們其實都是……","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:00:30.974000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:00:35.517000+08:00","text":"勞動部寫了，是多一個選擇，並不是強制每個人都要去請嘛，對不對？是。","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:00:35.517000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:00:47.547000+08:00","text":"就是多一個選擇，有需要的人就可以來申請，那你講說或許有些人不需要，或是說，他自己能夠負荷得來，家庭工作分配得來，那他就沒有這個需要嘛。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T12:00:48.608000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:01:02.682000+08:00","text":"我不是說他需要或不需要，而是說在他生產的階段會有其他的制度，來去支撐他在生產階段的需求，不是只有說好像所有的東西我們都是期待透過幫傭來去處理。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:01:02.842000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:01:27.158000+08:00","text":"沒有，當然不是只有他嘛，而是說有需要的人可以去申請，那我們有沒有辦法在女性懷孕感到不適的時候，媽媽手冊拿到之後，可能最晚是3個月，再加2個月，就是5個月，你覺得從懷孕5個月以後到生產，這個時間比較久一點，有沒有辦法讓他們提前去申請？","quality":0.822},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:01:28.599000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:01:36.926000+08:00","text":"現在的制度是小孩出生之後，報戶口之後，才有辦法去申請，有沒有辦法讓他們提前去申請？","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:01:36.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:01:50.234000+08:00","text":"那當然在小孩一出生，馬上資格就有了，就可以趕快讓幫傭進來，現在的規定是2到3個月，應該沒錯嘛，有沒有辦法在小孩子一出生，讓有需要的媽媽，在他們最需要的時候讓幫傭進來？","quality":0.767},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T12:01:50.234000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:01:57.799000+08:00","text":"我們其實接下來也會把相關的程序簡化，那這些程序的簡化應該也有助於申請到的時間縮短，但是……","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:01:58.180000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:02:15.451000+08:00","text":"對，我就是希望達成這個目標，媽媽在小孩剛出生的時候，是最手忙腳亂的時候，當過家長的應該都知道，家長最手忙腳亂的時候給他們一些幫助，對有需要的人，就提早給他們幫助。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T12:02:17.827000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:02:20.249000+08:00","text":"對，我覺得這個可能要再研議，要研究一下。","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:02:20.269000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:02:45.811000+08:00","text":"我不是說一定要照我剛剛的建議，等到媽媽手冊出來就可以申請，我不是這個意思，而是希望部長正視到小孩子剛出生的時候是媽媽跟爸爸最手忙腳亂的時候，如果他們有這個需要的時候，我們給他們申請上面的一些便利，最好是在分娩前就能夠申請，讓他們在小孩一出生的時候就能夠有一個人幫助他們，不曉得這樣的方向部長認不認同？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T12:02:45.891000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:02:46.911000+08:00","text":"我們可能再研究一下。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:02:46.931000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:02:54.504000+08:00","text":"好，沒關係，那我當作你的研究是認真的會去研究，會去認真的研究吧？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T12:02:55.125000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:02:56.346000+08:00","text":"當然我們要去做一些研究。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:02:56.366000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:02:59.890000+08:00","text":"那多久可以有一個初步的評估？","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T12:03:00.611000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:03:00.771000+08:00","text":"兩個月吧。","quality":1},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:03:01.251000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:03:07.858000+08:00","text":"兩個月的時間，好，那我們就等兩個月，請部長多多討論，我講的問題也希望您能夠正視。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"廖委員先翔","start":"2026-06-03T12:03:08.378000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:03:08.458000+08:00","text":"以上，謝謝。謝謝。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:03:08.958000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:03:11.243714+08:00","text":"好，謝謝廖先翔委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:03:11.543714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:03:14.686571+08:00","text":"接下來請張雅琳委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}