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他抓等於白抓所以我們覺得整個的政府不是單純的是我們第一線員警的工作而是整體我們其他的配套的措施還有包含我們法院如果我們一次又一次看到都是無保請回請問一下我們為什麼要讓我們的精神員警"},{"start":302.571,"end":324.157,"text":"冒這麼大的風險然後他取締了之後我剛剛看到那個案例直接把槍掏出來員警不敢掏槍所以我在這邊也希望說我們整個的政府體系你要抓獨駕取締獨駕就應該整體的動起來而不是大家花了這麼大的力氣結果根本沒有辦法好"},{"start":326.598,"end":337.392,"text":"時間暫停一下我再請我們因為今天我們有好幾個部會來我們的交通部次長有來交通部以及速發部我現在要看"},{"start":345.383,"end":356.219,"text":"今天正好你們幾個部會都有來有一件事情我覺得一定要請我們各部會做協調它不是只有一個內政部或警政署的事"},{"start":357.628,"end":380.882,"text":"我剛才提到去年1219在台北市發生了在北捷車站還有台鐵車站地下街丟煙霧彈然後又跑到捷運站隨機砍人然後多人遭到攻擊造成非常非常大的這是一個撼動全社會的一個治安事件那在"},{"start":382.304,"end":404.518,"text":"前天我們內政委員會到我們的台北市消防局我們原來是考察它的無人機救災那其中台北市消防局提出了一個問題我覺得非常的重要就是在這個案例裡面因為它橫跨包含台鐵車站"},{"start":406.079,"end":431.392,"text":"捷運車站高鐵車站地方政府後來警政署也有介入嘛但是出現了一個問題因為各單位的通訊的系統其實是不一致的各單位的通訊系統有一些是用類比有一些用數位有些局部類比局部數位沒有整合也就是中央地方"},{"start":436.586,"end":450.826,"text":"東鐵台鐵跟地方的警政署消防署他的通訊設備是沒有整合的那那個案件我們可以視之為所謂的治安事件但是未來也有可能出現像救災"},{"start":452.148,"end":465.517,"text":"不管是重大治安或者是說這是恐攻或者未來有這個重大的災害的時候各單位的通訊系統必須要有一個整合機制所以我們在"},{"start":468.999,"end":476.584,"text":"那天我們在考察的時候台北市消防局特別提到這個問題那我也感謝內政部的這個次長吳次長他當天在現場他也說願意帶回來跟我們交通部還有跟我們速發部一起來研擬這個問題那今天正好交通部次長在這邊那我不曉得你們是不是也注意到這個問題"},{"start":492.094,"end":503.206,"text":"未來職權的問題通訊整合的問題那碰到重大災害重大的資安事件是不是應該就是盡快的來做這個整合的機制"},{"start":505.229,"end":527.796,"text":"做個說明 委員剛才舉例台北火車站的事件也讓我們看得到說整體的有關這個場戰的不管是治安或是災防的一個重要而且整合的重要性所以這部分我們已經責請我們本部的鐵道局就這樣的一個case來做相關的一個檢討然後來確立後的這個指揮體系等等的救援的體系"},{"start":532.538,"end":548.144,"text":"那另外剛才委員特別提到說有關這個在災防搶救的時候相關通訊如何能夠互相應該是相容然後能夠互相能夠communicate這一部分原則上我的了解整個行政院有一個災防體系會在這樣的一個災防體系"},{"start":551.025,"end":565.758,"text":"因為這點很重要台北市消防局他提出來他們在1219確實碰到這個問題通訊無法整合所以當然外界會認為說為什麼讓他這個人跑來跑去跑來跑去因為他到不同的地段的時候他的通訊系統是不一樣的"},{"start":566.479,"end":578.547,"text":"好不好 那另外我們請一下內政部 劉部長因為這裡面也涉及到消防跟警政署因為他來自於中央地方以及我剛講高鐵跟台鐵這些警政系統他們之間的整合那我剛講我感謝我們吳次長說他有很具體的一個回應"},{"start":590.996,"end":604.027,"text":"那我們未來是放在災防系統的通訊的整合嗎其實我不管啦 就說你是災防也好或重大治安 只要通訊能夠整合它未來 因為你也不排除會發生恐攻事件啊 也有可能啊那當然 1219 這個是一個孤狼事件 一個人在犯案如果是出現大規模的恐攻 或者大規模的災害的時候"},{"start":616.057,"end":640.197,"text":"我想請問一下內政部現在跟行政院是不是你們也有一個時間一個期限希望能夠在什麼時間內能夠做成這樣的整合的機制謝謝王委員的關心其實不只是這個所謂的孤狼事件碰到大規模的災害的時候在警跟消裡面的通訊整合除了技術上的問題警政系統跟消防系統各有好幾套"},{"start":641.158,"end":663.343,"text":"那他們之間怎麼整合的部分的話我現在也有律定希望說可以加入所謂的AI來做辨認因為從110或119也是一個很好的系統但是現在會碰到也有中央政府跟地方政府整合的問題對又不一樣對我上個禮拜也到而且他的問題還是喔這是台北市啊他也可能發生在台中他也可能發生台南高雄"},{"start":663.743,"end":682.315,"text":"是所以你的整合不是僅僅只是跟台北市還有跟各縣市都要整合我以為你講對了我剛所提到像110跟119其實也是跨中央跟地方也是跨縣市的部分那這個部分我們必須要再跟包括交通部分速發部因為他們也都是相關的通訊或者是通訊系統的整合機關"},{"start":683.275,"end":696.741,"text":"那未來在技術層面上我們整合好了以後呢在行政的整合上面會比較快速那我也希望說包括地方政府呢也可以配合我們做快速的這個做這樣的整合的工作也就是那個吳唐安次長跟委員報告的部分那因為是這個禮拜才去做這個會刊"},{"start":700.562,"end":720.39,"text":"對沒有錯我們有聽到這方面的問題那我也知道包括台北市跟新北市的消防單位或警察單位他們也要慢慢導入AI的這個通訊整合的部分我們未來會再做一個比較好的整合讓如果有救災的時候呢不要變成是一個孤島或是變成是一個這個沒有辦法就會中斷對中斷的部分好我覺得這個要盡快好不好好謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:24:45+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T11:24:46+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:24:45.529000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:24:48.151000+08:00","text":"請劉世芳部長以及警政署張署長。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T11:24:48.151000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:24:48.151000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:24:48.171000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:24:48.391000+08:00","text":"部長、署長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:24:48.411000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:24:49.132000+08:00","text":"我們先來看一段影片，時間暫停一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:24:49.312000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:24:49.652000+08:00","text":"（播放影片）","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:25:36.491000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:25:37.732000+08:00","text":"這個駕駛拿什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:25:37.732000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:25:39.152000+08:00","text":"拿著的是槍，把槍掏出來了。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:25:39.152000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:26:12.561000+08:00","text":"因為取締毒駕跟取締酒駕有一些不同，除了取締的方式不一樣……我們常常講黑、金、槍、毒，擁毒者和吸毒者擁槍的比例常常也比較高。","quality":0.868},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:26:13.742000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:26:23.811000+08:00","text":"影片中可以看到其實警察沒有用槍，後來把他強制壓制，警察自始至終沒有把槍掏出來。","quality":0.861},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:26:25.939000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:26:48.147000+08:00","text":"署長最近接受媒體的採訪，採取非常強硬的態度，署長力挺毒駕要判死，顯然現在行政院所提出來的刑度還沒有到死刑，但是立法院有些委員提出有連續情形時，要把死刑納入。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:26:48.867000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:26:58.649000+08:00","text":"另外，又喊話員警「該用槍就用槍」，老實說是「高層講起來一張嘴，基層跑斷腿」。","quality":0.767},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:27:00.050000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:27:17.624000+08:00","text":"去年臺北市曾經發生過的案例，大家應該記憶猶新，就是嫌犯從地下街的捷運站一路到整個商圈，後來跑到頂樓，很多民眾都有看到那個影片，最後嫌犯是墜樓身亡。","quality":0.821},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:27:18.945000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:27:22.446000+08:00","text":"當警察追到頂樓的時候，警察自始至終沒有把槍掏出來，而是拿著警棍還有手電筒，當時就有很多的質疑說嫌犯已經丟了煙霧彈，又已經直接砍人了，可是為什麼警察都不敢用槍？","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:27:41.671000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:27:42.532000+08:00","text":"當署長說該用槍就用槍的時候，為什麼我們的警察這麼怕用槍？","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:27:42.532000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:27:47.053000+08:00","text":"我剛才顯示的影片是最近在取締毒駕時，毒駕者就掏出他的改造手槍，所以我要講第一線基層員警執勤是非常、非常、非常危險的。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:28:07.162000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:28:24+08:00","text":"但是從過去的案例來看，很多員警用槍之後，就是面對跑不完的法院、寫不完的報告，而且纏訟好多年，他在這一段時間完全不能打考績。","quality":0.855},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:28:27.503000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:28:42.199000+08:00","text":"所以我要講的就是今天對於像毒駕的部分，我們剛剛討論過，也有很多委員關心，包括唾液快篩還有相關的修法問題。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:28:42.199000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:28:54.447000+08:00","text":"我很關心的是我們基層員警的安全問題，因為毒駕者擁槍的比例真的就是比較高，這一點我必須要提醒署長，署長講一句話說該用槍就用槍，可是為什麼我們的員警不敢用槍？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:29:02.009000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:29:12.722000+08:00","text":"而且我們這麼辛苦的把毒駕抓到了，可是很多到了法院，通通無保請回，無保請回的比例非常非常高，搞到基層的員警還有檢察官都很無力啊！","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:29:12.742000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:29:12.902000+08:00","text":"無奈啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:29:21.414000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:29:27.840000+08:00","text":"說好不容易抓到，取締了，最後都無保請回，他抓等於白抓。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:29:28.700000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:29:49.291000+08:00","text":"所以我們覺得這不單純是我們第一線員警的工作，而是需要整體的配套措施，包含法院，如果我們一次又一次看到都是無保請回，請問一下，為什麼要讓我們的基層員警冒這麼大的風險？","quality":0.934},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:29:49.552000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:29:54.453000+08:00","text":"他取締了之後，我剛剛看到那個案例，嫌犯直接把槍掏出來欸！","quality":0.88},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:29:54.453000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:29:55.173000+08:00","text":"員警還不敢掏槍欸！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:29:55.173000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:30:08.997000+08:00","text":"所以我希望整個政府體系，如果要抓毒駕、取締毒駕，就應該整體的動起來，而不是讓大家花了這麼大的力氣，結果根本沒有辦法。","quality":0.904},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:30:11.598000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:30:20.590000+08:00","text":"時間暫停一下，今天有好幾個部會來，交通部次長有來嗎？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:30:20.590000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:30:22.032000+08:00","text":"請交通部及數發部。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2026-06-03T11:30:22.032000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T11:30:30.383000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:30:30.383000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:32:07.555000+08:00","text":"今天正好幾個部會都有來，有一件事情我覺得一定要請各部會協調，它不是只有內政部或警政署的事，我剛才提到去年1219在臺北市發生了在北捷車站、臺鐵車站地下街丟煙霧彈，然後又跑到捷運站隨機砍人，多人遭到攻擊，造成一個撼動全社會的治安事件，前天我們內政委員會到臺北市消防局，本來是要考察他們的無人機救災，但當天臺北市消防局提出了一個問題，我覺得非常的重要，就是在這個案例裡面，因為它橫跨臺鐵車站、捷運車站、高鐵車站、地方政府，後來警政署也有介入，但是因為各單位的通訊系統不一致，有一些是用類比，有一些用數位，有些局部類比、局部數位，沒有整合，也就是中央、地方、高鐵、臺鐵、警政署、消防署的通訊設備是沒有整合的。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:32:08.937000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:32:40.343000+08:00","text":"那個案件我們可以視之為所謂的治安事件，但是未來也有可能出現像救災，不管是重大治安事件或者是恐攻或者有重大的災害發生，各單位的通訊系統必須要有一個整合機制，所以，我們那天考察的時候，臺北市消防局特別提出這個問題，我也感謝內政部吳次長，他當天在現場，他說願意帶回來跟交通部、數發部一起來研議。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:32:40.484000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:32:41.584000+08:00","text":"今天正好交通部次長在這邊，我不曉得你們是不是也注意到這個問題？","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:32:57.094000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:33:08.186000+08:00","text":"未來職權的問題、通訊整合的問題，碰到重大災害、重大的治安事件，是不是應該儘快的來建立整合的機制？","quality":0.907},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2026-06-03T11:33:11.289000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:33:32.776000+08:00","text":"委員剛才舉例臺北火車站的事件，也讓我們看到整體場站不管是治安或災防整合的重要性，所以這部分我們已經責請本部鐵道局，就這個case來做相關的檢討，然後來確立爾後的指揮體系、救援體系。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"陳次長彥伯","start":"2026-06-03T11:33:38.058000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:33:53.124000+08:00","text":"剛才委員特別提到在災防搶救的時候，相關的通訊如何能夠相容、能夠互相communicate，就我的了解，整個行政院有一個災防體系，會在這個災防體系去檢討。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:33:56.165000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:34:05.714000+08:00","text":"對，這點很重要，臺北市消防局提出來，他們在1219確實碰到這個問題，就是通訊無法整合，當然外界會認為為什麼讓這個人跑來跑去？","quality":0.942},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:34:06.695000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:34:10.738000+08:00","text":"因為他在不同的地段，通訊系統是不一樣的。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:34:12.240000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:34:41.080000+08:00","text":"另外，請一下內政部劉部長，因為這也涉及消防署跟警政署，我剛剛講的事涉中央、地方、高鐵、臺鐵和警政系統之間的整合，我剛剛說感謝吳次長有很具體的回應，請問未來是放在災防系統的通訊整合嗎？","quality":0.841},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:34:41.080000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:35:11.866000+08:00","text":"其實不管是災防或重大治安事件，只要通訊能夠整合，因為我們也不能排除恐攻事件發生的可能，當然1219是一個孤狼事件，只有一個人犯案，但如果出現大規模的恐攻或者大規模的災害的時候，我想請問內政部，你們現在跟行政院是不是有一個期限，希望能夠在什麼時間內能夠完成這樣的整合機制？","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T11:35:12.066000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:35:40.321000+08:00","text":"謝謝王委員的關心，其實不只是所謂的孤狼事件，碰到大規模的災害的時候，警消之間的通訊整合，除了技術上的問題之外，警政系統跟消防系統各有好幾套，他們之間怎麼整合，我現在也律定，希望可以加入所謂的AI來辨認，因為從110或119也是一個很好的系統，但是現在又碰到中央政府跟地方政府整合的問題。","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:35:40.321000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:35:41.241000+08:00","text":"對，又不一樣。","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T11:35:41.241000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:35:42.342000+08:00","text":"對，我上個禮拜也到……","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:35:42.742000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:35:48.743000+08:00","text":"而且問題是這是臺北市，它也可能發生在臺中，也可能發生在臺南、高雄。是。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:35:49.083000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:35:52.645000+08:00","text":"所以你的整合不僅僅只是跟臺北市，還要跟各縣市。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T11:35:53.866000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:36:13.277000+08:00","text":"王委員，你講對了，我剛剛所提到的110跟119系統其實也是跨中央跟地方，也是跨縣市的，這個部分我們必須要再跟包括交通部、數發部研議，因為他們也都是相關通訊或資通訊系統的整合機關，未來在技術層面上，我們整合好了以後，在行政的整合上會比較快速。","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T11:36:13.917000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:36:21.300000+08:00","text":"我也希望包括地方政府也可以配合我們，做快速的整合工作，也就是吳堂安次長跟委員報告的部分。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T11:36:21.380000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:36:21.721000+08:00","text":"因為是這個禮拜才去會勘……","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:36:25.562000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:36:26.022000+08:00","text":"對，沒有錯。","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T11:36:26.022000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:36:44.049000+08:00","text":"我們有聽到這方面的問題，那我也知道包括臺北市跟新北市的消防單位或警察單位，也要慢慢導入AI的通訊整合，我們未來會再做一個比較好的整合，未來救災的時候，不要讓某個地方變成一個孤島或是變成一個沒有辦法……","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:36:44.169000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:36:44.469000+08:00","text":"就會中斷。","quality":1},{"speaker":"劉部長世芳","start":"2026-06-03T11:36:44.469000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:36:45.090000+08:00","text":"對，中斷的部分。","quality":1},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:36:45.190000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:36:45.350000+08:00","text":"我覺得這個工作要儘快，好不好？","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"王委員鴻薇","start":"2026-06-03T11:36:45.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T11:36:45.390000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T11:36:45.890000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T11:36:49.032857+08:00","text":"下一位請陳昭姿委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}