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113這兩年相比相差甚遠差很多然後呢我又看了你們11年度各機關通訊改善需求案件預估"},{"start":369.201,"end":385.447,"text":"只有六案有行政院客委會行政院內政部南投縣政府衛生福利部我就不曉得說原鄉咧原民會呢是不是可以說明一下是跟委員報告兩個部分第一部分當初那個是中華電信有"},{"start":386.067,"end":401.817,"text":"有OneWeb後來是透過這個漫遊方式來處理那謝謝委員當時有垂涎也有在督促那第二部是一棒接一棒在111年8月27日事務部成立之後這個原來這個前瞻的部分原來是NC執行後來就是由任性的主管相關機關來處理"},{"start":402.717,"end":429.767,"text":"那這邊我們還是會同這個書發部這邊來來繼續來處理那偏鄉的5G的基站建設那一向是我們NCC跟跟中市就數位落差的相關機關都會一併來處理那其實過往這個有些合併案的時候我們也要求這個存續公司都是病人家公司也會持續來加強要求那未來只要偏鄉地區有需求我們大概"},{"start":430.347,"end":443.174,"text":"除了這個常規上的一些任性的建設的一些規劃之外只要個案上偏向地區有需求地方有需求我們都會非常都會積極找業者來細線看看哪邊然後來幫他們找一些資源來進"},{"start":448.236,"end":473.791,"text":"謝謝主委 我就喜歡你剛剛說只要偏鄉有任何的需求即便不在計畫內 你們都會支持那我現在就是跟你講一個需求因為前瞻計畫的時候 園民會有做一個iTRAP i部落那對很多偏鄉地區的人來講他可以取得這個免費的網路 他們覺得很好但是呢 聽說前瞻計畫結束了之後要交給地方如果地方又不管"},{"start":474.631,"end":493.539,"text":"那這到底要誰要管因為很多地方的議員都在地方的議會都在質詢這件事這部分我相信我們可以跟書發部或找相關機關來來商討看如何來改進好那謝謝齁那這個其餘的部分齁我想會後的部分我們再來討論齁好謝謝主委謝謝主席"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai 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Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:16:00.518000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:16:25.074000+08:00","text":"去年發生一個很驚人的事情，就是當時的颱風竟然造成霧鹿、利稻斷路、斷電，然後就斷網，但是好扯，大家那時候都在關心馬太鞍事件，結果是第三天剛好那個地方的廠商有衛星電話，才有辦法把消息傳出來。","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:16:25.074000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:16:28.177000+08:00","text":"我覺得2025年發生這樣的事情真是不可思議。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:16:29.538000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:16:35.103000+08:00","text":"其實我知道我們過去做的滿多，特別是在前瞻之後。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:16:35.564000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:16:41.728000+08:00","text":"像我自己所關心的，光是在山區建置5G基地台，112年到113年兩年間有208座，改善山區林道通訊品質也有13處，強化基地台的也有37座。","quality":0.816},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:16:41.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:17:26.777000+08:00","text":"我看到你們這次115到118新核定的偏鄉通訊網路數位韌性計畫，這個計畫很好，你們也說是延續前瞻計畫的經驗，持續規劃；但是我有一點看不懂，也感到很憂心，因為115、116、117、118，你們都有所謂的KPI要累計的件數，但光是跟112、113這兩年相比，相差甚遠，差很多。","quality":0.948},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:17:27.397000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:17:42.904000+08:00","text":"然後我又看了你們111年度各機關通訊改善需求案件，預估只有6案，有行政院客委會、行政院、內政部南投縣政府、衛生福利部，我就不曉得原鄉呢？","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:17:42.904000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:17:43.405000+08:00","text":"原民會呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:17:43.965000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:17:44.865000+08:00","text":"是不是可以說明一下？","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-06-03T12:17:45.525000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:17:55.650000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告兩個部分，第一個部分是當初那個中華電信有OneWeb，後來是透過這個漫遊方式來處理，謝謝委員當時有垂詢，也有在督促。","quality":0.948},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-06-03T12:17:56.191000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:18:11.299000+08:00","text":"第二部分是一棒接一棒，在111年8月27日數發部成立之後，原來這個前瞻的部分是NCC執行，後來就是由韌性計畫主管相關機關來處理，我們還是會同數發部繼續處理。","quality":0.881},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-06-03T12:18:12.399000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:18:20.822000+08:00","text":"偏鄉5G的基站建設及數位落差部分，NCC一向都會跟相關機關一併處理。","quality":0.645},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-06-03T12:18:21.983000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:18:29.805000+08:00","text":"其實過往有些合併案，我們也會對這個存續的公司，也就是併人家的公司，持續加強要求。","quality":0.694},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-06-03T12:18:30.486000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:18:47.154000+08:00","text":"未來只要偏鄉地區有需求，除了常規上對韌性建設的一些規劃之外，只要個案上，偏鄉地區有需求、地方有需求，我們都會積極找業者去現勘，然後幫他們找一些資源處理。","quality":0.884},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:18:52.236000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:18:52.396000+08:00","text":"謝謝主委。","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:18:53.437000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:18:59.080000+08:00","text":"我就喜歡您剛剛說，只要偏鄉有任何需求，即便不在計畫內，你們都會支持。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:18:59.981000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:19:11.987000+08:00","text":"我現在就跟你講一個需求，在前瞻計畫的時候，原民會有做一個i-Tribe（愛部落），對很多偏鄉地區的人來講，他可以取得這個免費的網路，他們覺得很好。","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:19:12.568000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:19:19.671000+08:00","text":"但聽說前瞻計畫結束之後要交給地方，如果地方又不管，那這到底誰要管？","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:19:20.252000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:19:24.073000+08:00","text":"因為很多地方議員都在地方議會質詢這件事。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-06-03T12:19:26.134000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:19:32.777000+08:00","text":"這部分我們可以跟數發部或找相關機關來商討，看如何改進。","quality":0.96},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:19:32.777000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:19:33.677000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:19:34.478000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:19:37.159000+08:00","text":"其餘的部分，我想會後我們再來討論。","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-03T12:19:37.259000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:19:37.519000+08:00","text":"謝謝主委，謝謝主席。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳代理主任委員崇樹","start":"2026-06-03T12:19:38.019000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:19:39.161857+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:19:39.461857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:19:42.604714+08:00","text":"謝謝伍麗華委員，謝謝主委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:19:42.904714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:19:46.047571+08:00","text":"接下來請葉元之委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}