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好嗎好的 我們會與此進行謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:49:03.361000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:49:06.343000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，我們有請法務部次長、教育部次長、內政部部長及警政署署長，謝謝。","quality":0.968},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:49:06.343000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:49:07.343000+08:00","text":"以上官員麻煩。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:49:06.583000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:50:01.104000+08:00","text":"我先請問法務部次長，我有看到新聞說已經要啟動毒駕的相關修法，例如提高毒駕刑責、嚴格假釋門檻及擴大沒收犯罪車輛，你們也在新聞稿明確地表示毒駕跟酒駕行為本質的惡害性不同，因此將會朝向毒駕跟酒駕分別規範的方向來修法，那我想要請教一個問題，其實我也不只一次提到，現在毒駕再犯率大概是44%，其實是滿高的，但是他被移送公共危險罪的比例大概只有10%，為什麼？","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:50:01.424000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:50:27.952000+08:00","text":"最主要是之前毒駕跟酒駕是綁在一起的，所以這個方向我是非常支持的，因為如果我們一定要回到不能夠證明有「不能安全駕駛」的認定的話，基本上就是沒有辦法來處罰，所以我想要先確認一下，我們現在的修法方向是要回到毒品危害防制條例來修法，我的主張是這樣，不曉得法務部您的想法是怎麼樣來修法呢？","quality":0.984},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T12:50:29.373000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:50:41.847000+08:00","text":"我們可能還是會在刑法第一百八十五條之三，只是我們會把酒駕跟毒駕分開，針對毒駕的部分去做刑法上的加重。","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:50:42.558000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:50:43.179000+08:00","text":"但是你們是在第一百八十五條之三下面。","quality":0.471},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T12:50:43.239000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:50:45.681000+08:00","text":"就是針對單獨的毒駕、毒駕致重傷及毒駕致死這個部分，我們來做加重。","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:50:56.568000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:51:17.431000+08:00","text":"好，我想確認一下，因為現在大家都希望加重刑度，但是加重刑度真的要能夠確實地處罰到毒駕，不然就會像過去，如果我們還要他證明沒有辦法安全駕駛的話，再加重刑度也是沒有用，所以這個部分就是在第一百八十五條之三裡面會去處理就對了，大概時程上面是怎麼樣？","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T12:51:18.317000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:51:23.843000+08:00","text":"我們現在法制的作業應該已經差不多，我們會儘速地報到行政院。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:51:23.963000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:51:24.624000+08:00","text":"大概什麼時候預告？","quality":1},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T12:51:25.845000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:51:33.573000+08:00","text":"預告的部分，我們可能這個月……原本有預告的期間啦！","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-03T12:51:33.573000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:51:36.536000+08:00","text":"但這個部分我們認為會急迫，所以會更加速處理。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:51:37.489000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:51:40.031000+08:00","text":"好，還是希望可以儘快啦！","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:51:40.251000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:51:47.377000+08:00","text":"因為這真的是影響到整個公共安全的問題，不然走在路上，作為一個家長我都非常地不安心，好不好？是。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:51:47.637000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:51:47.777000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:51:47.917000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:51:49.279000+08:00","text":"接下來請內政部還有警政署。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張署長榮興","start":"2026-06-03T12:51:49.279000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:51:52.801000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:51:52.801000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:51:53.342000+08:00","text":"謝謝部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:51:53.722000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:52:20.309000+08:00","text":"因為我看到警政署近期已經有修正「取締疑似施用毒品後駕車作業程序」，明定如果駕駛經唾液快篩呈陽性反應或拒絕受測，而且明顯有不能安全駕駛情形，警方就可以依法逮捕移送，並且配合刑事訴訟法的修正，毒駕也已經納入了預防性羈押的要件，對於這一點，我非常肯定內政部跟警政署非常明快地回應。","quality":0.937},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:52:20.309000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:52:27.917000+08:00","text":"但是現在還有一個比較大的問題，因為目前看起來是要用唾液快篩，對不對？","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:52:27.917000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:52:39.725000+08:00","text":"作為取締的一個重要工具，我看到警政署今年是採購4.5萬餘劑的唾液毒品快篩試劑，但我有一個很大的質疑，這個量夠嗎？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:52:39.725000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:52:40.806000+08:00","text":"為什麼我會這樣子問？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:52:40.806000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:52:48.051000+08:00","text":"在2024年警政署的報告就已經指出，大概有3萬8,000名嫌疑犯，對不對？","quality":0.92},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:52:48.051000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:53:09.792000+08:00","text":"3萬8,000名嫌疑犯，而且從今年最新資料來看，法務部調查局查獲的毒品案例已經成長一倍，然後你們汽機車毒駕取締的事件跟去年同期相比也是成長4.6倍，那這樣子來說，不管怎麼樣，我的試劑都應該要超過4萬5,000劑啊！","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:53:09.972000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:53:13.475000+08:00","text":"怎麼算都應該要超過4萬5,000劑，可是你們現在只有4萬5,000劑，這樣子夠嗎？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"張署長榮興","start":"2026-06-03T12:53:16.098000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:53:27.549000+08:00","text":"4萬5,000劑是目前的狀況，那各縣市的狀況不同，會做滾動式的檢討，不是只有4萬5,000劑，現在的量能如果不足就會提早再做採購。","qual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,{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:55:59.779000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:56:01.982000+08:00","text":"你單身一個人的時候，你敢拒絕嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:56:01.982000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:56:29.266000+08:00","text":"這是不可能做到的，所以我認為這件事情，我們在教材上面可能要跟法務部一起來努力，如何讓教材更貼近孩子面對到的情境，告訴他們如何求助，我覺得這件事情非常重要，但是在我們現在的教案裡面完全沒有看到如何來求助，還有如何保護自己，讓學校可以更早的及時介入。","quality":0.991},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-06-03T12:56:30.367000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:56:47.284000+08:00","text":"這兩個部分其實我已經講了很多次，但我還是要再強調一次，我希望我們在發展這些教案的時候，都要找兒少代表一起來討論，小朋友其實都知道誰在做這件事情，這件事情就是要回到小朋友，收集他們的聲音，好嗎？","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"劉次長國偉","start":"2026-06-03T12:56:47.284000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T12:56:48.185000+08:00","text":"好的，我們會與時精進。謝謝。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:56:48.685000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:56:50.399286+08:00","text":"我們休息5分鐘。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:56:50.699286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:56:51.842143+08:00","text":"休息（12時57分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:56:52.142143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:56:53.856429+08:00","text":"繼續開會（13時3分）","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:56:54.156429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:56:55.299286+08:00","text":"繼續詢答。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:56:55.599286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:56:59.313571+08:00","text":"下一位請林倩綺委員發言質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:56:59.613571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:57:04.470714+08:00","text":"林倩綺委員、林倩綺委員、林倩綺委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:57:04.770714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:57:08.485000+08:00","text":"下一位請鄭正鈐委員發言質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:57:08.785000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:57:13.642143+08:00","text":"鄭正鈐委員、鄭正鈐委員、鄭正鈐委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T12:57:13.942143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T12:57:17.656429+08:00","text":"下一位請謝龍介委員發言質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}