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而不會就是一個不友善的環境這個部分我覺得要有相關具體的政策否則很多女性還是會擔心"},{"start":348.611,"end":370.396,"text":"我請到完之後我會回來的我們基本上其實我們也做了一些研究跟了解其實基本上就是希望他能夠用更彈性的方式讓他去因應需求而不是讓他只能請的長因為請的長的確有可能請越長他回來的機會就會降低關鍵在雇主怎麼想怎麼去處理不是嗎好我們這樣別人時間好謝謝李燕秀委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:12:07.089000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:12:07.490000+08:00","text":"主席，我請部長。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T13:12:07.490000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:12:07.550000+08:00","text":"有請洪部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:12:07.650000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:12:13.359000+08:00","text":"李委員好。","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:12:22.540000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:12:28.685000+08:00","text":"部長，勞基法、工廠法在民國六十幾年就有規定，當時的產假就只有8週。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:12:29.466000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:12:38.153000+08:00","text":"非常遺憾，我從上任第一屆立法委員一開始、第一年，就提出我國產假其實遠遠落後日本與韓國等其他國家。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:12:39.474000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:12:58.221000+08:00","text":"而且不只是我，立法委員衛環委員會很多委員當時也都提出類似版本，認為產假只有8週是不足的，我們若要解決少子女化問題、解決產婦憂鬱症問題、要讓產婦的身心照顧獲得改善，應該就產假加以調整。","quality":0.819},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:12:58.441000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:13:07.703000+08:00","text":"但非常遺憾的就是從過去到現在一直是8週，我等這一天等了整整9年，今天終於要調整，全臺灣婦女也等了9年。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:13:08.263000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:13:28.430000+08:00","text":"那我就要請問部長，民進黨執政已經邁入第十年，從105年到現在，不管當時提的10週、12週、14週，甚至有人提議16週，這九年來有這麼多委員的版本，部會的政策是延續的，為什麼今天才覺醒，要因應少子女化的威脅、做這樣的調整？","quality":0.816},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:13:30.071000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:13:31.612000+08:00","text":"12週到底是依據什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:13:31.612000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:13:34.193000+08:00","text":"是否有醫學依據？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:13:34.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:13:42.519000+08:00","text":"我看到日韓、也包括很多國家，按照國際標準，其實都已經到14週了，所以有國際標準，你們的依據為何、為什麼是12週？","quality":0.622},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:13:42.519000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T13:13:43.519000+08:00","text":"是跟產業界妥協的結果，他們認為12週是可以接受的？","quality":0.048},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:13:43.519000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T13:13:44.519000+08:00","text":"還是有醫學根據，覺得婦女產後休息12週就足夠了？","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:13:44.519000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T13:13:45.519000+08:00","text":"標準是什麼？","quality":0},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:13:44.600000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:14:05.205000+08:00","text":"跟委員說明，第一，我們確實認為8週是不太夠的。","quality":0.789},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:14:06.386000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:14:07.106000+08:00","text":"那為什麼等到現在？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:14:07.886000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:14:10.467000+08:00","text":"我第一屆是在2016年就當選了。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:14:10.727000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:14:15.209000+08:00","text":"第一，我們認為8週是不太夠的，所以應該延長。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:14:15.209000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:14:18.750000+08:00","text":"第二，其實我們也做了相關請教。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:14:20.211000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:14:31.459000+08:00","text":"臺灣其實是有育嬰留停的國家，所以並非單看產假而已，而且我們的產假其實可以直接銜接育嬰留停。","quality":0.762},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:14:32.780000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:14:33.421000+08:00","text":"經過這樣的評估與權衡，我們才設計從8週延長到12週。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:14:33.541000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:15:00.629000+08:00","text":"因為跟育嬰留職停薪連接，所以你覺得12週就夠，但其他國家也有育嬰留職停薪的政策，12週對一位生過孩子的媽媽來說，比照日、韓等其他國家，我覺得是為德不卒，要不就一次做到夠！","quality":0.836},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:15:00.629000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:15:15.693000+08:00","text":"過去這麼多委員提出這麼多版本，很多婦女也在等待調整，過去這麼多委員提出版本，不知道為什麼衛福部、勞動部都不肯好好討論，今天你們才覺醒，覺得要調整這個政策。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:15:17.193000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:15:36.402000+08:00","text":"我幫所有女性、包括已經生過小孩或未來打算生小孩者向部長報告，12週仍舊是不夠的、還是落後日韓等其他國家，這是我第一個要提出來的，我們既然要打造職場的友善環境，我覺得就要一次做到足，不要留一條尾巴。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:15:37.683000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:15:44.747000+08:00","text":"我們沒有下一個九年可以等，畢竟現在少子女化不僅是國安危機，已經是滅國危機。","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T13:15:44.747000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:15:51.252000+08:00","text":"我們要讓婦女沒有後顧之憂，現在當然有很多政策要補足，但我覺得要做就要一次做到足。","quality":0.865},{"speaker":"李委員彥秀","start":"2026-06-03T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