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謝謝坤城委員發言"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:23:53.880000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:23:53.980000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，我請洪部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T13:23:53.980000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:23:54.041000+08:00","text":"有請洪部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:23:54.041000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T13:23:55.041000+08:00","text":"李委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:23:54.041000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:23:54.241000+08:00","text":"部長好，辛苦了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:23:54.261000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:23:56.542000+08:00","text":"對於這次總統跟行政院端出來的育兒大禮包，我個人非常支持，不過未來可能產生一些問題，必須看看有沒有需要加以調整，就是對於微型企業的補助。","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:24:23.083000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:24:36.153000+08:00","text":"現在微型企業在全國中小企業裡占的家數其實非常多，我查了一下，大概有130萬家5人以下微型企業。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:24:36.473000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:24:41.017000+08:00","text":"而現在有一項育兒減工時方案，對不對？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:24:41.157000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:24:55.427000+08:00","text":"育兒減工時適用200人以下企業，那當然就包含微型企業，員工若有12歲以下子女，且跟雇主達成合意，可以申請每日縮減1小時工時，薪資照發。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:24:56.248000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:25:02.612000+08:00","text":"企業如果配合實施，可以申請全額補助，現在的重點在於合意，對不對？對。","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:25:04.813000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:25:16.259000+08:00","text":"性別平等工作法第十九條也有規定，當然後來把人數放寬，待遇也更好。","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:25:16.859000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:25:25.443000+08:00","text":"其實依第十九條規定，如果員工是在30人以上的公司，本來就可以向雇主申請調整時間，現在更是整個都放寬了。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:25:25.483000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:25:43.420000+08:00","text":"可是若必須合意，員工就要向企業主、老闆講自己要照顧小孩，這方面會不會有一些問題或者難處理的地方？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:25:44.742000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:26:10.973000+08:00","text":"跟委員說明，其實因為各行各業工作安排的樣態真的差異很大，有一些工作比較容易縮減工時，比方說排班性工作、輪班性工作，縮減工時在其整個人資調度制度裡，難度真的高很多，更不用講有一些是中小微企業，就像剛剛講的那些。","quality":0.884},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:26:10.973000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:26:15.535000+08:00","text":"我現在就是講中小微企業，也就是5人以下的企業，少掉一個人就少掉2成。","quality":0.828},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:26:16.855000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:26:30.966000+08:00","text":"困難又更多，但現在的性工法第十九條其實是強制性條款，只要員工舉手說他需要，雇主是不能拒絕的。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:26:30.966000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T13:26:33.509000+08:00","text":"可是現在是30人以上的公司啊！","quality":0},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:26:33.509000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:26:45.422000+08:00","text":"因為臺灣企業樣態真的很多，所以我們目前還是採獎勵方式，政府的工作包括對減少那個小時的工資提供全額補助。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:26:45.422000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T13:26:46.603000+08:00","text":"有職代津貼。","quality":0},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:26:46.603000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:26:50.906000+08:00","text":"也包括職代津貼的相關補助。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:26:50.906000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T13:26:51.906000+08:00","text":"每天800塊。","quality":0},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:26:51.846000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:26:56.287000+08:00","text":"對，我們可以補，讓雇主願意同意的門檻儘量降低。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:26:56.867000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:27:06.710000+08:00","text":"可是，在這個階段，我們的確認為還是須要勞雇合意的，因為我們看其他國家相對應的減少工時制度，其實雇主也有拒絕的權利。","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:27:08.594000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:27:14.456000+08:00","text":"沒關係，我的意思是現在200人以下企業都適用剛剛所講的這些……","quality":0.84},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:27:16.597000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:27:27.361000+08:00","text":"如果員工有小孩在12歲以下，就在我們的獎勵計畫裡、就是我們納進來的範圍，沒有限企業規模。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:27:31.042000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:27:31.562000+08:00","text":"沒有限企業規模？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:27:32.743000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:27:33.063000+08:00","text":"沒有限企業規模。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:27:33.243000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:27:39.265000+08:00","text":"限企業規模的是如果在200人以下，我們對企業會給予一些設計這項制度的獎勵。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:27:39.265000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:27:45.587000+08:00","text":"對，所以我現在講的是微型企業，也就包含200人以下企業，你們會給予這些獎勵，但仍要合意，對不對？對。","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:27:46.728000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:27:52.950000+08:00","text":"我現在只是詢問，能不能提供企業主更大誘因，200人以下企業能不能再區分？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:27:53.130000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:28:19.892000+08:00","text":"比如說200人以下企業可能中、小、微都有，能不能特別針對微型企業再多給一些補助，讓企業主覺得就算員工減少工作一個小時去帶小孩，他的損失也沒那麼大，受雇人為了帶小孩少做這個小時對於公司的影響也沒這麼大？","quality":0.844},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:28:20.412000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:28:22.855000+08:00","text":"我的意思是能不能分級補助。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:28:23.435000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:28:28.459000+08:00","text":"跟委員說明，第一，我們可以思考一下，就這部分做更……","quality":0.905},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:28:28.459000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T13:28:30.541000+08:00","text":"更細緻。","quality":0},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:28:30.541000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:28:31.181000+08:00","text":"更細緻的思考。","quality":1},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:28:31.342000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:28:44.152000+08:00","text":"但執行這個主題方案的時候，基本上沒有到修法、沒有打算修性工法第十九條，也就是先不往強制性規定走，而是獎勵性，我們覺得也會比較彈性。","quality":0.61},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:28:45.553000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:28:52.438000+08:00","text":"對，我也講是獎勵性的，不是強制實施，就是獎勵性。","quality":0.65},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:28:52.839000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:29:10.754000+08:00","text":"但我只是建議用級距加以補助，比如說對於50人、20人或5人企業是不是能有彈性級距補助，讓這個方案在實行上更能實施？","quality":0.708},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:29:11.234000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:29:13.575000+08:00","text":"我們可以整體考慮一下。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:29:14.575000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:29:22.477000+08:00","text":"好，可以按照這個級距試算一下，比如說5人、10人、20人之類的。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:29:23.277000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:29:24.958000+08:00","text":"現在是200人以下都適用這個規範嘛！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:29:25.818000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:29:36.920000+08:00","text":"而我認為如果能針對5人以下這些行業的企業主給予更多補助，育兒措施會更容易實施啦！","quality":0.784},{"speaker":"洪部長申翰","start":"2026-06-03T13:29:37.381000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:29:37.681000+08:00","text":"聽懂，了解。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-06-03T13:29:37.921000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:29:38.141000+08:00","text":"好不好？謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T13:29:39.602000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-03T13:29:39.743000+08:00","text":"謝謝李坤城委員的發言。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T13:29:40.243000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T13:29:45.100143+08:00","text":"王鴻薇委員、王鴻薇委員、王鴻薇委員不在。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-03T13:29:45.400143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-03T13:29:48.257286+08:00","text":"接著請王正旭委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}