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典藏也好其實我們可以做得更好運動部其實我看一下它有個體育運動文化數位典藏平台其實網站做得還不錯有不少運動前輩的訪談 藏品等等可是我覺得這個平台有部分需要改進的地方第一 藏品太少"},{"start":518.012,"end":537.883,"text":"我們從產品的這個解鎖頁面來看他只有1565份資料那雖然有不少前輩的這個產品可是像我搜尋陳金峰只有兩筆結果然後我搜尋陳偉英那有出現部分選手時期的相關的產品搜尋王健民有七筆"},{"start":539.043,"end":561.877,"text":"裡面有五筆裡面是關於最近十二強冠軍的這個相關的這個這個產品那可是他沒有之前他在大聯盟時期這個這個滲透網的這個最強盛的時候的產品所以這是很可惜那好那另外我搜尋台東基層棒球的重要推手那被譽為這個台東地區這個"},{"start":565.939,"end":585.766,"text":"棒球傳教士喔也就是我們這個同黨同仁陳寅委員的祖父這個陳根元先生那又或是我們一手創立這個台灣第一支原住民棒球隊也就是我們台灣棒球史的先驅喔就是能高團的林桂新那好 這個是台灣運動史上"},{"start":586.326,"end":586.506,"text":"第二"},{"start":604.938,"end":633.071,"text":"我剛提到還有產品時間軸其實從1951年才開始我們用棒球當例子好了談起台灣的棒球歷史你一定要從日治時代開始談吧那所以我剛提到的不管是陳根源不管是林桂新就是日治時代很重要發展棒球的重要人物可是我們從典藏網站上其實只能看到就從國民黨政府來台之後那之前的年代的運動發展全部消失"},{"start":634.131,"end":654.966,"text":"好 第三 我們在看這個網站上就是它的人文地圖解鎖非常不完整全台灣22個縣市只有7個縣市是有產品的那15個縣市都是零那最多產品是台東縣那產品也都是紅葉哨棒而已喔好 所以請教部長你自己喔 有瀏覽過這個數位典藏平台嗎"},{"start":656.143,"end":676.448,"text":"剛委員您報告我確實還沒有去遊覽過對所以你也不想自己才知道那麼少品而且都是紀念商品好那我提到剛剛三點好我再縱觀一下就是產品太少第二個就是時間軸最早就是從國民黨開始起算第三個就是人文地圖的檢索不完整那部長你覺得未來可以如何精進嗎"},{"start":677.368,"end":699.801,"text":"跟委員您報告那首先這邊感謝委員您對我們體育運動文化的這個傳承以及的重視我想說這個部分我們後續會請產業司這邊來馬上回去就來處理這件事情的文物的不管是線上還是實體文物的典藏我想這部分我本人自己也會非常重視這件事情然後這部分我們運動部會來做"},{"start":700.822,"end":725.51,"text":"好 因為部長你上任之後你跟文化部那個李遠部長有弄一個遠洋合作嘛那就像您剛也一開始有提到我們現在在台南的史博館我們就有在做亞運特展那其實運動有關的相關產品 產品真的很多它是散落在這個各部會跟民間像文化部它有一個國家文化記憶庫它有很多很珍貴的檔案資料那國家圖書館也在"},{"start":728.171,"end":748.027,"text":"這個升級台北市立棒球場的老照片所以本席認為其實運動部應該要作為文化運動文化記憶典藏收藏保存在線推廣的主導者我們主導然後跨部會來合作系統性的整理跟收集這些我們有關台灣歷史各年代的運動發展的產品那我覺得"},{"start":751.149,"end":774.623,"text":"並將其數位化所以我覺得這樣子才可以好好的保存那讓大家可以透過入口網站然後進行跨資料的這個搜尋跟解鎖所以運動部要再加油這部分那剛剛部長你有宣示說你要好好來精進這些東西那期待未來下一次我們在這個上這個平台的時候可以看到更多的內容好不好好 謝謝郭委員部長加油 謝謝謝謝主席"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:15:16.089000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:15:17.830000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請李洋部長。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-04T11:15:17.830000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:15:18.151000+08:00","text":"有請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T11:15:23.995000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:15:24.755000+08:00","text":"委員早安。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:15:25.036000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:15:25.136000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:15:25.796000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:16:14.493000+08:00","text":"首先要請教的是，您上任後就不斷表達要對單項運動協會進行改革，不過運動部成立到現在，我們看到部分單項協會還是出現很多的狀況，像是之前籃協的會員大會三度流會，上週也有委員在質詢時提到木蘭足球聯賽的賽程安排引發熱傷害風險的疑慮，昨天又發生我們女足代表隊要去關島比賽，到機場才發現沒有隊醫，雖然足協是說受限大會規定只能登錄7個，所以要進行最精簡且高效的人員配置，可是我想要問的是隊醫不重要嗎？","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:16:15.554000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:16:25.844000+08:00","text":"部長，你以前是選手，最清楚隊醫對於選手的重要性，我們如果只靠當地的醫師，可以提供最好的醫療服務嗎？","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:16:26.145000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:16:30.069000+08:00","text":"部長，怎麼防止這種離譜的狀況未來再發生？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:16:31.190000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:16:36.495000+08:00","text":"不只是足球，而是在各單項協會都可以不要再發生類似的事情，部長，這個部分你怎麼說？","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T11:16:38.837000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:17:06.411000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，首先是女足工會提到的這個部分，當然我覺得每個項目、每個層級所需要的隊職員都不太一樣，但是女足工會有這樣的需求，也代表選手有這樣的需求，我們希望足協未來在參加任何一個國際賽事，應該都要跟選手好好協調他們到底需要什麼樣的隊職員陪同他們一起參賽。","quality":0.924},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T11:17:07.652000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:17:15.082000+08:00","text":"當然，過往我參加亞奧運的時候才有隊醫隨同，確實參加錦標賽的時候……","quality":0.931},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:17:15.723000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:17:17.085000+08:00","text":"是沒有隊醫的嗎？","quality":0.714},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T11:17:17.085000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:17:19.568000+08:00","text":"以羽球為例的話，確實是如此。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:17:19.568000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-04T11:17:21.977000+08:00","text":"可是您未來有要改變嗎？","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T11:17:21.977000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:17:42.750000+08:00","text":"當然，如果選手有這個需求的話，我們都希望能夠有隊醫或者是其他醫護人員隨同，我想這也證明國家更加重視我們運動代表隊的參賽，這也是後續我們可以去精進的部分。好。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:17:43.851000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:17:57.478000+08:00","text":"另外，近期木蘭足球聯賽資格賽中，中信東門城足球俱樂部因為報名文件用印的問題被判定資格不符，全隊都不能參賽。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:17:57.638000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:18:11.488000+08:00","text":"本席認為協會應該是盡可能去保障選手的參賽資格，如果僅是行政文件有瑕疵，是不是應該要有補救的機制，否則像這樣整隊選手都不能比賽了。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:18:11.628000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:18:51.472000+08:00","text":"我們再看看，2026台灣木蘭足球聯賽資格賽有個競賽規程，我們前天在官網上看到的時候是寫草案，昨天看變成備查，經過詢問，就是足協在5月25號把這個規程函送到運動部來備查，資格賽報名其實到5月20號就截止了，等於報名的時候規程都還只是草案，所以這個規程的效力到底有沒有問題，部長，這個部分等一下我要請教你。","quality":0.823},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:18:51.993000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:19:03.719000+08:00","text":"另外，資格賽的第一場原本是在5月30號，因為場地的問題而必須延期，這個資訊可能隊伍有被通知，但是球迷呢？","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:19:04.519000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:19:10.003000+08:00","text":"官網都沒有找到任何的公告，協會可以這樣做事嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:19:10.003000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:19:17.353000+08:00","text":"部長，這部分有兩個問題，一個是延期沒有公告周知，另外一個就是所謂的規程問題。","quality":0.618},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T11:19:19.472000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:19:48.733000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，首先我先回復規程的部分，當然，未來木蘭聯賽這邊應該要去研議是否有補救的機制，這一次確實是因為合約文件的用印問題，為了維持一致性，所以沒有補救的機制，後續我們會請他們來研議是否要建立這個制度，讓他們去補件，避免相關的事情再度產生。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T11:19:49.993000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:20:05.358000+08:00","text":"至於委員您剛剛提到協會的部分，我們後續還是會請競技司和次長去好好地協助足球協會，督導他們，避免影響選手的相關權益。","quality":0.868},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:20:08.076000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:20:21.830000+08:00","text":"另外，我上個禮拜質詢的時候也有提出，新任羽協副理事長林瑞陽過去有傷害我國主權的言論。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:20:24.852000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:20:38.322000+08:00","text":"我們很清楚，單項運動協會是我國選手參加國際賽事的對外主要窗口，如今這種人當上代表協會的職務，這樣沒問題嗎？","quality":0.878},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:20:38.322000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:20:49.928000+08:00","text":"我上週是詢問黃次長，今天還要再問一下部長，曾發表傷害國家主權尊嚴言論的人適合擔任協會的代表人嗎？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:20:50.149000+08:00","guessed":false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關的藏品真的很多，它散落在各部會和民間，像文化部有一個國家文化記憶庫，裡面有很多很珍貴的檔案資料，國家圖書館也在徵集臺北市立棒球場的老照片。","quality":0.881},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:27:25.413000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:27:45.750000+08:00","text":"所以本席認為，運動部應該成為運動文化記憶蒐藏、保存、再現及推廣的主導者，由運動部主導進行跨部會合作，系統性地整理跟蒐集有關臺灣歷史上各年代的運動發展藏品，並將其數位化。","quality":0.805},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:27:47.050000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:27:53.474000+08:00","text":"我覺得這樣才可以好好地保存，讓大家可以透過入口網站，進行跨資料庫的搜尋和檢索。","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:27:54.334000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:27:57.496000+08:00","text":"總之，這個部分運動部要再加油。我會。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:27:58.757000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:28:06.561000+08:00","text":"剛剛部長有宣示自己會好好地來精進這些東西，期待下一次我們可以在這個平臺上看到更多內容，好不好？","quality":0.841},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T11:28:06.922000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:28:08.022000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:28:08.022000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:28:08.582000+08:00","text":"部長加油，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-04T11:28:08.582000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T11:28:08.602000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席。謝謝。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-04T11:28:09.102000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-04T11:28:11.959143+08:00","text":"下一位有請陳秀寳委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}