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下言"},{"start":5662.574,"end":5689.137,"text":"第18案 本院委員羅廷偉等16人凝聚 跟蹤騷擾防治法第12條條文修正草案陳修永會監教內政社會福利及衛生環境 梁委員會審查 宣傳完畢第19案 本院委員羅廷偉等16人凝聚 家庭暴力防治法第31條條文修正草案陳修永會監教社會福利及衛生環境司法及法治 梁委員會審查 宣傳完畢第20案 本院委員林楚英等17人凝聚 電驗法第77條11條文修正草案"},{"start":5689.757,"end":5710.172,"text":"財修委員會建交經濟委員會審查 宣傳完畢第二十一案 本議會委員林楚瑩等時簽成的據《新產企事業法》第五十五條之一條文修正常案財修委員會建交經濟委員會審查 宣傳完畢第二十二案 本議會委員林楚瑩等時簽成的據《自然學法》第九十七條之一條文修正常案財修委員會建交經濟委員會審查 宣傳完畢"},{"start":5712.253,"end":5729.298,"text":"第二十三案 本務委員林祖英等17人離去電信管理法第七組的條條我修正草案財修委員會間交交通委員會審查 宣告完畢第二十四案 本務委員林祖英等17人離去七項法第21條是一條我修正草案財修委員會間交交通委員會審查 宣告完畢"},{"start":5729.998,"end":5755.809,"text":"第25案 本院委員林楚英等17人離去 商行法第15條及第65條14條無修正常案 程序委員會見交交通委員會審查 宣傳並第26案 本院委員林楚英等17人離去 傳播房部分條無修正常案 程序委員會見交交通委員會審查 宣傳並第27案 本院委員賴世寶等27人離去 公民投票法第23條條無修正常案 程序委員會見交內政委員會審查 宣傳並"},{"start":5756.209,"end":5782.542,"text":"法案 二十七 案有國民黨團體進負二讀與相關提案並案協商請問院會有異沒有異 本案進負二讀與相關提案並案協商下言第二十八 案本院委員賴世寶的二十五人領據使用盤說選法第五條條文修正草案財政委員會見交財政委員會審查宣讀完畢第二十九 案本院委員賴世寶的二十五人領據期貨交稅條例刪除第四條條文草案財政委員會見交財政委員會審查宣讀完畢"},{"start":5783.602,"end":5811.916,"text":"第三十案本院委員賴世寶的二十五人凝聚證券交易稅條例刪除第八條條文長案陳書永會監交財政委員會審查宣討完畢第三十一案本院委員賴世寶的二十七人凝聚互付稅條例第十二條十三條維修正常案陳書永會監交財政委員會審查宣討完畢法院會報告事項第三十一案現在由國民黨團體金福爾魯與相關提案並案協商全院會有異議沒有異議本案金福爾魯與相關提案並案協商下議案"},{"start":5812.318,"end":5838.459,"text":"第三宣案 本一委員賴世寶等26人離去公路法第27條條文修正草案財修委員會兼交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢第33案 本一委員陳少銘等16人離去土地法第25條條文修正草案財修委員會兼交內政委員會審查 宣讀完畢第34案 本一委員陳少銘等26人離去中央對直轄市及縣市政府補助條例草案財修委員會兼交財政委員會審查 宣讀完畢"},{"start":5839.46,"end":5858.473,"text":"第三十五案 本院委員陳玉珍等二十人女聚陸海空軍軍官司官服役條例第三十九條條文修正常案陳修永會監交外交及國防委員會審查 宣言為併第三十六案 本院委員陳玉珍等十九人女聚離島監事條例第十條條文修正常案陳修永會監交經濟委員會審查 宣言為併"},{"start":5859.273,"end":5885.889,"text":"第三十七案本院委員陳玉珍等十七人離聚財政收支劃分法第八條條文修正常案財政委員會建交財政委員會審查訊息完畢第三十八案本院委員陳玉珍等十七人離聚財政收支劃分法第十六條之一條文修正常案財政委員會建交財政委員會審查訊息完畢報院會第三十八案現在由國民黨團體金富爾魯與相關提案並案協商請委員會有異議名義本案金富爾魯與相關提案並案協商下言"},{"start":5886.277,"end":5907.697,"text":"第39案 本院委員陳玉珍的19人離去 公務人員退休自選服訓法第4條第34條及第39條條文修正草案 裁判員會兼交司法及法治委員會審查 宣布完畢第40案 本院委員陳玉珍的19人離去 公務人員退休自選服訓法第27條條文修正草案 裁判員會兼交司法及法治委員會審查 宣布完畢"},{"start":5908.698,"end":5932.02,"text":"第41案 本院委員陳玉珍等學習委員領據公務人員退休自檢復讐法第78條條文修正草案陳修永會兼交司法及法治委員會審查 宣言完畢第41案 本院委員陳玉珍等學習委員領據公立學校教職委員退休自檢復讐條例第4條 第34條及第39條條文修正草案陳修永會兼交司法及法治教育及文化 兩委員會審查 宣言完畢"},{"start":5932.981,"end":5953.77,"text":"第四十三案 本院委員陳玉珍等學界委員人一句 公立學校教職員退休自檢撫恤條例第28條條文修正常案 陳學員會見教師法及法治教育界文化聯合委員會審查 宣言完畢第四十四案 本院委員柯志恩等學校委員人一句 學校衛生法第21條條文修正常案 陳學員會見教育界文化聯合委員會審查 宣言完畢"},{"start":5954.91,"end":5983.267,"text":"第四十五案 本院委員科資案等水利二等凝聚勞工保險條例第六十三條條文修正常案財修委員會建交社會福利機會上網監務委員會審查 宣傳完畢第四十六案 本院委員環節等水氣凝聚人工智慧基本保障案財修委員會建交救濟文化交通兩務委員會審查 宣傳完畢博文會第四十六案 現在由民進黨黨團體金服二讀與相關提案並案協商 請委員會有異議免議本案金服二讀與相關提案並案協商 下議案"},{"start":5983.635,"end":6000.917,"text":"第四十七案 本院委員黃捷等十六人離去職業安全衛生法部份條文修正草案陳修永會監教社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣言完畢第四十八案 本院委員沈不陽等十八人離去電業法第七十一條之一條文修正草案陳修永會監教經濟委員會審查 宣言完畢"},{"start":6002.279,"end":6014.732,"text":"第四十九案本院委员审不扬的十八案的联系第五十案本院委员审不扬的十八案的联系第五十案本院委员审不扬的十八案的联系第五十案本院委员审不扬的十八案的联系第五十案"},{"start":6020.498,"end":6036.424,"text":"第五十一案 本院委員審不讓的18號鄰居電信管理法第七十二條條文修正常案 程序委員會建交交通委員會審查 訊息完畢第五十二案 本院委員審不讓的18號鄰居進行法第21條之一條文修正常案 程序委員會建交交通委員會審查 訊息完畢"},{"start":6037.805,"end":6053.921,"text":"第五十三案 本院委員沈唔陽等19人凝聚 上合法第15條及第65條之4條無修正草案 陳秀英會監交交通委員會審查 虛擬完畢第五十四案 本院委員沈唔陽等19人凝聚 傳播法部分條無修正草案 陳秀英會監交交通委員會審查 虛擬完畢"},{"start":6055.743,"end":6074.942,"text":"第五十五案 本議會委員沈不揚等選協委人一句登當四台風景728好雨 再後復原重新特別調理部分條文修正早案陳迅永會尖叫 交通永會審查宣傳完畢協議會第五十五案 現在由民進黨黨團體金服二讀與相關提案並且商 請委員會有異面議本案金服二讀與相關提案並且商 下議案"},{"start":6075.287,"end":6099.205,"text":"第五十六案 北部委員訴詳會等十七人離聚 災害防救法第四十條及第五十一條無修正常案 財修委員會兼交 內政委員會審查 宣告完畢第五十七案 北部委員參與於等十六人離聚 定業法第七十一條之一條無修正常案 財修委員會兼交 經濟委員會審查 宣告完畢第五十八案 北部委員參與於等十六人離聚 自來水法第九十七條之一條無修正常案"},{"start":6099.745,"end":6103.589,"text":"第五十九案第五十九案第六十案第五十案"},{"start":6121.488,"end":6147.711,"text":"第61案 本優委員參與等17人聆聚電信管理法第7條條文修正草案陳修緣會監交交通委員會審查 訊息完畢第60案 本優委員參與等17人聆聚傳播法部分條文修正草案陳修緣會監交交通委員會審查 訊息完畢第63案 本優委員參與等16人聆聚商科法第15條及第65條之4條文修正草案陳修緣會監交交通委員會審查 訊息完畢"},{"start":6148.832,"end":6163.659,"text":"第六十四案 本院委員蔡宇等17人離去 職業安全衛生法部份條文修正常案持續委員會建交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 確定來賓第六十五案 本院委員陳廷飛等16人離去 職業安全衛生法部份條文修正常案"},{"start":6164.5,"end":6180.82,"text":"陳樹永會監教社會福利 温暑環境委員會審查 確定完畢第66案 本議員鄭天才等20人離聚原住民身份法第7條條目修正草案陳樹永會監教內政委員會審查 確定完畢第67案 本議員林思明等21人離廢止經濟部國際貿易局組織條例"},{"start":6184.064,"end":6205.856,"text":"陳詢問會見交司法及法治經濟 兩委員會審查 宣言完畢第六十八案本院員零四名的二十一人已廢止經濟部中小企業處組織條例陳詢問會見交司法及法治經濟 兩委員會審查 宣言完畢第六十九案本院員零四名的二十一人已廢止經濟部能源局組織條例陳詢問會見交司法及法治經濟 兩委員會審查 宣言完畢"},{"start":6206.836,"end":6223.887,"text":"第七十一案 本院委員吳小林的十七人連續期貨交稅條例身處第四條條文場案 程序委員會監交財政委員會審查 訊訊法定第七十一案 本院委員吳小林的十八人連續申請交易稅條例第八條及第十六條條文修正場案 程序委員會監交財政委員會審查 訊訊法定"},{"start":6226.008,"end":6246.402,"text":"第七十三案 本院委員盧憲宜等16人提據《醫療法》第24條及第106條條文修正常案 陳書永會兼交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣告完畢第七十三案 本院委員盧憲宜等16人提據《老人福利法》第25條條文修正常案 陳書永會兼交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣告完畢"},{"start":6255.988,"end":6274.729,"text":"第七十四案 本院院員黃建豪等21人抵據《公務稅條例》第十二條十三條文修正常案陳修緣會見交財政委員會審查 宣讀完畢本院院會第七十四案由國民黨團體金富二族與相關提案並按協商 全院會有異議面議本案金富二族 相關提案並按協商 下議案"},{"start":6275.219,"end":6302.161,"text":"第七十五案 本議員黃建豪的二十人凝聚使用派出稅房第五條條文修正常案陳修緣會監交財政委員會審查 宣讀完畢第七十六案 本議員吳宗憲的十七人凝聚刑事訴訟法第四百零四條條文修正常案陳修緣會監交司法及法政委員會審查 宣讀完畢第七十七案 本議員吳宗憲的十八人凝聚民法第一千二百二十三條條文修正常案陳修緣會監交司法及法政委員會審查 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本議員外面零等十六人一具外送平台管理機從業人員權益保障法草案陳書勇會監交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣讀完畢第九十一案 本議員成一等二十一人一具單單四台風及七二班好雨災後復原重慶特別條例第四條 第五條及第十條條例修正草案陳書勇會監交交通委員會審查 宣讀完畢"},{"start":6460.612,"end":6487.509,"text":"抱怨會第九十一案現在由民進黨黨團體金服二讀與相關提案併案協商請問願會有異面議本案金服二讀與相關提案併案協商下一項第九十二案本議員鍾夏冰的十八案領據登道是臺風及七二八號與災後復原重建特別條例第四條條文修正常案財修委員會兼交交通委員會審查宣傳完畢抱怨會第九十二案現在由民進黨黨團體金服二讀與相關提案併案協商請問願會有異"},{"start":6488.806,"end":6512.006,"text":"命令本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商下頁第九十三案本院委員郭玉琴等十八案領序洪水條例第十二條十三條文修正草案全球委員會尖叫財政委員會審查宣傳完畢報告委員會第九十三案現在由民進黨黨團體禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商全院會有異議命令本案禁服二讀與相關提案並案協商下頁"},{"start":6512.645,"end":6530.461,"text":"第九十四案 北部委員郭育行等19人凝聚 動物保護法第25條之二及第33條之二條文修正常案 陳修永會兼交經紀委員會審查 確定完畢第九十五案 北部委員郭育行等16人凝聚 定議法第75條之一條文修正常案 陳修永會兼交經紀委員會審查 確定完畢"},{"start":6532.322,"end":6549.795,"text":"第九十六案 本院員員郭育行等16人離去 天然氣室法第五十條之一條維修正常案 財修院會監交 經濟委員會審查 宣言完畢第九十七案 本院員員郭育行等16人離去 自然水法第九十七條之一條維修正常案 財修院會監交 經濟委員會審查 宣言完畢"},{"start":6550.896,"end":6575.945,"text":"第九十八案 本院委員郭育勤等十六人離去電信管理法第七十二條條文修正草案陳修永會監交消動員會審查 訓斷完畢第九十九案 本院委員郭育勤等十六人離去氣象法第二十一條之一條文修正草案陳修永會監交消動員會審查 訓斷完畢第一百案 本院委員郭育勤等十六人離去香港法第十五條及第六十五條之四條文修正草案陳修永會監交消動員會審查 訓斷完畢"},{"start":6578.286,"end":6595.64,"text":"第一零一案 本院員工過疫情等十六人離去傳播法部分條修正場案陳修緣會監交交通委員會審查 宣言完畢第一零二案 本院民進黨老團離去外送員權益保障及外送平台管理法場案陳修緣會監交社會福利及衛生環境委員會審查 宣言完畢"},{"start":6596.681,"end":6624.831,"text":"第103案 本院委員王美惠等18日離去反滲透法部分條文修正草案 財修委員會監交內政司法及法制 兩委員會審查 宣告完畢第104案 本院委員王美惠等17日離去滲透法部分條文修正草案 財修委員會監交內政司法及法制 兩委員會審查 宣告完畢第105案 本院委員王美惠等19日離去國家語言研究發展中心設計條例草案 財修委員會監交司法及法制教育界文化 兩委員會審查 宣告完畢"},{"start":6625.791,"end":6651.864,"text":"第106案 本優惠網媒會等18日連續《中華民國刑法》第83條條文修正草案陳修緣會監交司法及法徵委員會審查 宣言完畢第107案 本優惠網媒會等17日連續《中華民國刑法》施行法增定第8條13條文草案陳修緣會監交司法及法徵委員會審查 宣言完畢第108案 行政院行為交通部辦理一把馬丹鑫驗死負災害受災戶 車輛受損報廢登記 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為什麼"},{"start":8733.373,"end":8756.463,"text":"我之前要交通部你們發個函給世襲公司你到底多少錢 你給我精算出來你們也不關我這個有回復到您辦公室你問了嗎 也沒問嘛有啦 有問了沒問嘛 是不是所以有時候立委在立法院質詢我拜託大家幕僚同仁把他記下來"},{"start":8758.462,"end":8787.651,"text":"能夠在總諮詢上面提出的問題都是非常重要的不好意思 報告委員這個部分有回覆給您辦公室世西工程有核算出一個經費是360億有一些東西不要我一直追嘛好 那我講到馬祖大橋從賴院長核定可行性評估花了多少錢花了一億五千多萬評估的結果在工程施工度沒有問題"},{"start":8788.866,"end":8815.265,"text":"我們國內有這樣功能的經驗經費也不是問題你從前面的蘇貞昌院長從蔡英文總統到賴總統經費都不是問題最近也經過了金門大橋經過了淡江大橋我想國內的施工技術已經成熟了有些人跟我講說如果這條橋的經費核定了你們不要找大陸去發包"},{"start":8816.406,"end":8841.113,"text":"現在有法令的限制嘛我們怎麼可能找大陸來包這個工程呢大陸做的當然以他們的經驗我們也看得到的他工鐵大橋什麼好幾個大橋施工都比馬祖還難的都已經完成了我想這是我們國人的驕傲我們目前有這個能力來做在整個排序上 時間已經過了七年了"},{"start":8842.332,"end":8870.517,"text":"我明年還一年 後年還一年我說我走最後一里路啊你不能讓我做到99歲吧我想年紀也大了一點怎麼會是最後一里路呢橋還沒有蓋好怎麼會有最後一里路橋是你的第一里路啊沒關係啊 你要給我橋的話我就繼續幹啊你不給我橋的話我幹不下去啦所以明年的預算我看不到了齊馬你明年開始嘛"},{"start":8871.158,"end":8895.674,"text":"因為他是分十年來編列金門大廈做了十年啊分十年嘛你不管是三百億四百億你一年就是投入三十億到四十億嘛這個馬祖啊你要去看馬祖你到底要不要馬祖所以前一陣子金門兩棲增產連調到澎湖去訓練我不曉得他還要不要回去齁我都覺得是不是台灣不要我們金門馬祖了"},{"start":8897.879,"end":8920.707,"text":"馬祖金門都是我們重要的離島而且他有戰略地位我最近還想找時間到馬祖去看看你要去看看嗎要什麼時候去我陪你去好 你在那邊等我就好了委員在馬祖等我就好了你不要自己一個人跑了那越南我是說排序應該要開始啟動了我這幾年因為國內財政還有政治紛擾"},{"start":8924.704,"end":8952.603,"text":"我都按捺住啊你看我在立法院有沒有跟你們發過脾氣從來沒有你看那個國道六號東岩花蓮的特別條例通過了那你們說行政院講說你幹什麼訂什麼特別條例啊有公務預算來出就好啦我也同意啊OK啊但是我們是乖乖牌啊你看我都沒吵也沒鬧但是你還是不給我啊"},{"start":8953.502,"end":8982.463,"text":"是不是你還是不給我啊交通部都有在進行啊你明年要排進去交通部都有在進行而且跟設計單位都有在進度上都有在進行但總要克服一些現在我們看到的困難院長我不是說你幫我助選你起碼我任期快到了吧你明年這個錢排個30億40億幫我預算編進去你能不能承諾我真的民眾對我沒信心我自己對自己都沒信心啊"},{"start":8983.396,"end":9007.809,"text":"我進行這件事情信任兩個字怎麼信任我沒辦法信任啦是不是院長你可以答應我嗎一個七年了一定要做的啦交通部來規劃啦看這個設計的單位他怎麼樣來對現在看到的一些狀況他能夠按部就班有序的來進行世襲告訴我沒有問題有問題的是誰呢都是你們大人啦你知道嗎"},{"start":9012.847,"end":9029.819,"text":"不是不是 過去委員說金額還沒有算出來預算沒有算出來就是他不曉得困難度有多大如果他至少現在360億的預算算出來了工程預算算出來了表示他知道要克服哪些問題我們就逐步來推動好吧 360億就360億嘛你一年就編個36億吧 可以不可以"},{"start":9033.526,"end":9062.7,"text":"交通部的預算一年七八千億啊我們現在專心的在趕北竿機場就是您剛剛所關心的那未來南竿機場其實也有改善的計畫我們交通部來說的話我們先把機場的部分我們先想辦法趕快把它做好你看桃園的一個高架橋的捷運往地下走幾百億 五百多億啊增加五百多億360億多嗎 也不多啊這是關係到馬祖未來"},{"start":9063.502,"end":9090.823,"text":"當然中央這幾年馬祖有長途的進步憑良心講而且我當立法員都是貴長在執政真的是你們執政馬祖老闆不是瞎了眼不是不了解 都了解你們給的是蠻多的但是這些年齡碎碎的工程小的基礎建設你要大方向去走的話一定馬祖大橋要把它完工院長你知道嗎你如果不去做馬祖大橋"},{"start":9092.193,"end":9120.541,"text":"我請問南竿機場你要不要改善南竿機場是非常危險的那等於是在航空母艦上面降落飛機明天是媽祖升天紀我不敢回去空中非常不穩定起飛跟降落坦特不安你知道嗎坦特不安沒有那麼安全當然我們不怕一萬只怕萬一所以這個一定要改善你如果去改善南竿機場的話"},{"start":9123.144,"end":9146.754,"text":"經費非常龐大 1000億跑不掉了你不能出了狀況以後去改善它所以你兩座機場要變成一座機場這個馬祖大橋勢在必行 院長你同意不同意我的看法北竿機場的改建 南竿機場的存廢以及馬祖大橋如何克服困難這都是三件同時存在的問題"},{"start":9147.932,"end":9175.211,"text":"那現在左手是北竿機場的改建這個是已經看到而且勢必在做的而且馬祖大橋會牽動到南竿機場的存廢的問題所以剛才我跟你報告說現在北竿機場的改善工程已經啟動了現在排序排下來我認為 我個人認為我想應該你也認為明年應該要給一點錢吧第一期預算先編上去現場你同意不同意我想你跟賴總統報告"},{"start":9176.877,"end":9203.46,"text":"他也會答應的啦我說剛剛請說請交通部能夠跟設計單位來看目前看到的困難已經克服了所以他才會才會算出360億的預算那我們看看這個預算整個的結構看看如果他已經到了一個成熟而且對於北幹機場南幹機場問題地方上的聲音也都相當的一致了那就是到這個順序一步一步的來做下來院長"},{"start":9204.488,"end":9223.613,"text":"明年你幫我把錢排進去我明年就繼續選如果不排進去的話我也無緣對江東復老只好告老還鄉你樂意看到這樣的結果嗎委員的當選是靠地方復老不是我編預算我的當選是靠"},{"start":9225.831,"end":9254.816,"text":"靠你們基礎建設 我們一起努力把馬祖建設的更好 我們一起努力這絕對是我跟委員同樣的心情我對馬祖的相信做事情不是憑口水憑口水沒有用了 我想現在大家選民都很聰明嘛是不是 院長拜託啦 明年不管如何這個馬祖大橋的事情啊 拜託一下我請交通部來詳細的規劃 不可能嘛另外跟你談一個 部長你請回 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我們跟美國的關係啊我們台積電去美國啦我們台灣也擁有美國很多很多的美國債券的國債我們總要換一點利益回來吧"},{"start":10209.96,"end":10226.472,"text":"我們要讓台灣再次偉大前提是台灣不能被犧牲掉我們希望台灣跟世界會不會在川習會的這個討論當中他能確保台灣的安全台灣有事 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正大光明的以國家的利益跟國家的利益來結合大聲說出口這一個川習會事實上可能就是又是一個轉變想一下去年的時間台海兩邊 兩岸感覺"},{"start":10414.288,"end":10434.287,"text":"劍拔弩張 感覺山雨欲來風滿樓會不會因為川習會這一次的見面兩岸改變變成是另外一個主軸就是世界要和平包括貿易的部分是不是在這次川習會當中中美貿易戰"},{"start":10435.592,"end":10461.932,"text":"他100%的關係現在聽說要取消了會不會又變成另外一個契機因為我們看到川普川普總統他有他的智慧他講了半天他也是希望股市漲所以美股現在四大標準指數屢創新高畢竟他是一個生意人如果川媒講完以後"},{"start":10463.357,"end":10469.988,"text":"會不會出現台海和平的另外一個契機報告委員 我想"},{"start":10471.299,"end":10495.316,"text":"和平現在不只是我們台灣非常努力在做我想美國也是所以前陣子以色列跟加薩和平美國也扮演重要角色剛剛美國總統也去了泰國泰國跟高棉的和平也簽訂和平美國也扮演重要角色所以我們相信對於美國的一個重大利益就是一個和平穩定這個地區我剛才提到過因為台灣跟美國其實不止還有跟日本"},{"start":10496.076,"end":10521.244,"text":"的共同利益韓國各地的供應財是太大了所以美國總統也剛剛去日本訪問跟新當選的首相高市早苗我們可以看到在美日台灣還有整個地區的共同努力之下我覺得和平是一定可以維持的好 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散佈不實的謠言我們要強力來調查是不是不實我不知道但是就是有這個網路我還可以找出來給你看"},{"start":22470.725,"end":22496.148,"text":"所以我是跟你講說就是會有少數人他不遵守法令然後還要這樣子惡搞所以你們那個檢查現在當然因為過去陳平日久你嚴格的檢查有人會不耐煩說這個實在是太麻煩但是事情一發生才發生對台灣造成這麼大的損害所以現在應該如果你要求嚴格的檢查國人都會支持的"},{"start":22496.977,"end":22508.352,"text":"我全力要求因為過去七八年我們嚴守邊境非常的嚴謹一定要更嚴不能放鬆那請莊部長跟陳部長先回座請這個交通部陳部長麻煩請交通部長備詢"},{"start":22517.694,"end":22544.196,"text":"院長跟部長謝謝你們昨天來國道1號的五股交流道北出閘道進到新莊這邊來的這個等於是啟用昨天下午四點啟用很辛苦但是我還是有其他交通要求我們現在新北市政府急於要去定案這個泰山到板橋的捷運輕軌其中我們新莊後港跟西勝20個里沒有捷運"},{"start":22545.681,"end":22553.404,"text":"這裡有十幾萬人口本席過去曾經對前的交通部長要求請他評估做一個後港牺牲的支線現在新北市政府完全不願意我拜託你要訂案的時候一定要留下預留窗口他不要將來別的市長的時候至少我們還有原資的人群如果你是訂案一個完全沒有一個可以接口的話那這個我們不能容許後港跟牺牲十萬居民會對"},{"start":22584.417,"end":22601.823,"text":"好 謝謝吳秉瑞委員質詢謝謝卓院長 相關部會首長備詢 謝謝報告委員會 我們在議場二樓旁邊又來了一批我們台北市新隆國小的同學們我們掌聲歡迎各位同學好 接下來我們請圖全級委員質詢林淑芬委員請準備"},{"start":22615.455,"end":22626.977,"text":"好 謝謝主席那麻煩請卓院長還有我們陳金德政委還有陳思凱部長麻煩再請卓院長 陳政委還有交通部備詢杜委員好好 謝謝院長和部長"},{"start":22643.87,"end":22660.16,"text":"我請問一下部長還有院長我們桃園航空城我們全台灣我們中華民國史上最大規模的土地徵收開發計畫這個案子院長部長應該很清楚我們陳吉德政委應該也很了解"},{"start":22661.854,"end":22676.915,"text":"那這個部分當初不論任何黨派或者中央地方政府大家都視為國家的重大建設那每次對於我們徵收範圍內的拆遷戶當初我們都承諾他要加碼補償"},{"start":22678.277,"end":22696.363,"text":"先見後簽 低利融資就是要給我們居民權益最大化那現在這個徵收案其實已經到了最後到了安置的階段可是目前徵收區內的住戶當初說因為相信政府的承諾可是現在"},{"start":22697.663,"end":22715.574,"text":"感覺因為大環境跟政府自身的一些因素他們現在感覺非常恐慌都感覺好像很多的承諾一一在跳票那我們先看一下我們在113年3月第24次航空城專案小組的會議 會議紀錄"},{"start":22717.695,"end":22732.431,"text":"這是我們最近一次安置時程調整是在那一次當時會議的主席是當時的行政院副院長鄭文燦那以當時推估安置住宅交屋時程與安置街廓土地"},{"start":22733.032,"end":22752.227,"text":"分別做出114年8月跟115年6月作為配置安置住宅與安置街坑的搬遷期限並且訂定115年12月為全區第三屋的搬遷時限那當然我們後來也對"},{"start":22753.171,"end":22764.125,"text":"搬遷的這些拆遷戶也承諾他們要加發一定成數的配合加速開發獎勵金與安置借貨的協助金"},{"start":22766.36,"end":22791.218,"text":"那針對上面會議記錄我們看得到安置住宅的部分政府要在114年4月和5月完成除了接擴衣以外的全部安置住宅交屋那在安置接擴的部分要在113年12月完成水電瓦斯電信污水等五大管線的供應114年2月完成秋點"},{"start":22792.299,"end":22811.639,"text":"秋快點交給居民一年十個月的時間自建住宅我們就是在這兩個前提之下往後推它的搬遷的時程那像剛剛已經就是報告當初我們的承諾的會議紀錄那現在已經是114年10月底"},{"start":22813.581,"end":22832.446,"text":"可是我相信我們大家應該都很知道因為這個從市府還有很多的民眾都一直在反映現在這個安置住宅根本就尚未完成驗屋跟改善根本沒有辦法交屋而且安置街坡的五大管線在4月份的時候本席接到很多"},{"start":22833.226,"end":22851.995,"text":"拆遷戶的反應所以召開了這個地方的說明會台電當時他也坦承是有管無線就是管子配好了但是裡面並沒有線後來我們在強烈要求之下說這當初的承諾是有管有線有水有電所以後來才開始規劃分區陸續拉線施工我請問一下院長"},{"start":22857.778,"end":22883.97,"text":"現在交不出房子是拆遷戶的問題嗎沒有電可以施工建屋是拆遷戶的責任嗎居然當初我們的承諾是以有屋可住有電可蓋的時程來設定他們拆遷戶的搬遷時程現在看起來這兩者顯然都已經牽連了我們政府在這一方面是不是應該要務實來檢討一下"},{"start":22886.42,"end":22910.355,"text":"是報告委員當初一開始關於整個拆遷的期限乃至於配套的措施裡面就是水電等等以及融資還有安置的計畫這個都是當時在航空城開發時候跟民眾大家互相達成相當的程度的共識那現在工程進行到現在為止我們都知道時間已經拖慢下去了但是"},{"start":22911.135,"end":22926.145,"text":"如何在115年12月這個期間點能不能達到說讓大家能夠搬遷完成是不是交通部來報告一下是現在的進度是跟委員報告確實他在蓋的過程當中有比較慢一點這個是本來是"},{"start":22926.758,"end":22946.116,"text":"由市政府來代辦確實是有這個狀況您剛所提到的金融方面的部分我們也已經拜託金管會協助跟銀行這邊來溝通另外財政部也跟八間的公股銀行也有做溝通所以融資的部分現在應該相對是順暢的水電的部分"},{"start":22947.158,"end":22962.001,"text":"台電跟台水公司都已經有專案的窗口在協助我們所有的未來的住戶要來做處理並且他也把這個成本有降低所以您剛剛所提的這個配套其實在金融方面在水電方面也都有提出這樣子的協助"},{"start":22963.166,"end":22977.105,"text":"對 現在重點是我們當初是給民眾一年十個月的蓋房子的時間可是現在很確定安置住宅我們交屋的時間也延後安置街坡因為水電"},{"start":22978.146,"end":22997.187,"text":"五大管線也是全部的延後所以我們針對當初配合加速開發獎勵金還有我們的重建協助金這個時間勢必也要延後你不能因為你本身政府延後結果你後面給民眾的期限你還是墊在那邊那完全沒道理啊"},{"start":22999.939,"end":23027.424,"text":"這個會議是最後一次政府院長召開的那整個桃園航空公園計畫是讓速度期程有延那獎金的部分也陸續加碼所以這次會議當中就已經重申名聲不得再延那雖然安置住宅這是桃園市政府代辦那麼交屋期程有慢但是並不是一定要今年8月31號"},{"start":23029.604,"end":23039.764,"text":"來搬錢因為搬錢極限已經延到明年的12月了所以如果民眾他因為交屋時間慢個幾個月但是他不一定要搬錢他明年才要搬錢"},{"start":23040.598,"end":23060.419,"text":"那之所以有這個搬遷的獎勵金是因為要配合相關跑道的工程希望如果民眾能夠提早的話那我們就給獎勵金這個獎勵金是針對提早搬遷的而不是所有的民眾都給獎勵金那民眾的搬遷期程不會受影響仍然是明年的12月31號之前"},{"start":23061.838,"end":23083.377,"text":"所以這個重點就在這邊他們都願意配合搬遷當初我們的承諾是先建後遷所以他已經等你蓋好他馬上要搬進去你今天安置住宅你沒有辦法淹屋沒有改善他根本搬不進去所以不是他不搬他早就想搬進去是你沒有辦法交屋安置街坡他要過去蓋"},{"start":23084.258,"end":23112.187,"text":"可是你當初答應給他的有水有電沒水沒電他怎麼蓋 渠道都沒水沒電啊當初我們要請他們搬遷的時候這都是具體的承諾結果是現在政府根本沒做到你所延誤那你要訂定一個獎勵金跟協助金的期限那你時間交付的期限跟你本身工地水電也沒有辦法如期完成你慢的時間當然也要延後給他並不是他不搬"},{"start":23113.137,"end":23140.854,"text":"安置街坡的部分根據相關資料他是指該到二樓的時候二樓樓地板他不一定要整個完成所以比較現在提及比較多的是安置住宅的部分安置街坡反而是問題比較少現在安置住宅確定沒有如期交屋所以你沒有辦法給他這個交屋當然是"},{"start":23142.188,"end":23164.597,"text":"台灣市政府代辦這個工程當中有一些慢一點但是所謂家屋也是雙方合意家屋並不能一味說因為房子沒有蓋好所以這家屋還是有雙方的問題所以才說容許民眾到115年的12月之前來搬遷舊有的居住房子都可以"},{"start":23165.345,"end":23188.356,"text":"所以當初後來有一個緩衝的方法就是當他們在今年8月底以前提出他要搬遷但是他現在就是說擔心說我們政府到時候他簽了搬遷就逼他搬遷所以我們現在也希望一個具體承諾你沒有辦法交屋讓他去把那邊房子弄好之後我們是不應該逼他搬遷的對不對"},{"start":23189.195,"end":23216.422,"text":"搬遷期限是明年115年的12月31所以他本來是115年的12月31之前房子一定都全數都好了所以從這邊 政委這邊給我們一個答覆我們聽了也比較安心就是他是在114年8月底以前提出配合加速開發他去領這個獎勵金但是他要搬遷的時間是配合我們政府等到房子蓋好再請他搬遷對不對"},{"start":23217.981,"end":23239.247,"text":"是你如果要配合這個搬遷獎勵金是8月30日之前要搬遷那如果沒有在這個8月30日之前搬遷就沒有這個獎勵金但是你不搬遷也可以搬遷的期限是115年的12月30日這當中相關獎勵金很多了這個搬遷獎勵金只是其中的一筆而已"},{"start":23239.827,"end":23254.167,"text":"所以沒關係 我現在基本上要請院長幫忙就是說當初我們的會議紀錄是幾年幾月完成那現在所有的從安置住宅到安置街坡 水電的部分的問題"},{"start":23255.208,"end":23279.247,"text":"他們就等著政府水電弄好 他就去蓋安置住宅 你驗屋完成 他馬上搬進去住如果我們本身政府因為自己沒有辦法交屋還有這個土地當初承諾的水電沒有辦法完成你延後的部分這個期限應該是要給他們並不能說你前面的訂定結果政府延後之後你又把他獎勵金的期限你又訂定在那邊"},{"start":23279.927,"end":23302.367,"text":"而且前面是一個安置住宅加速搬遷的獎勵金後面明年2月又有重建協助金樓地板剛剛政委講的協助金的部分你現在如果你水電沒有辦法給他他沒有辦法去蓋勢必明年2樓樓地板他也蓋不到而且你這個協助金蓋好以後後面滿期之後他要拿到"},{"start":23302.987,"end":23329.805,"text":"使用執照才算完成如果沒拿到使用執照還要把這個重建協助金去追回所以我今天要拜託院長的部分如果是政府的責任政府要擔當下來你延後的部分不能你本身交屋跟交我們安置建國土地的部分隨便沒有完成的部分你延後結果你獎勵金跟協助金的部分你不給他延這是沒有道理的"},{"start":23330.345,"end":23355.368,"text":"你的時間是給他一年十個月結果你本身延後結果你一年十個月的時間等於是緊縮了院長我這樣講了解我講的意思嗎陳靜德主委所說的就是現在原則性的最終決定那我現在看不出有任何達不到的狀況為了到了115年的12月如果真的房子都沒有蓋出來那當然這個"},{"start":23356.189,"end":23375.994,"text":"要跟居民大家同心來考量是有的但如果那個時候工程要進行順利房屋都蓋出來了搬遷就有可能我們努力在做這個工作不過部長也有地方政府也要配合目前看起來115年年底之前一定都會蓋好所以它這個交屋應該不會有這個問題其實市府也已經反映確定是延遲的"},{"start":23376.394,"end":23402.222,"text":"但是一直得不到行政院的正面回應所以現在地方政府跟民眾才會恐慌所以今天本席才會在這邊拜託院長 拜託部長你一定要正視這個問題如果是政府不管是中央政府還是地方政府你們延誤的部分要還給民眾公平正義地方政府確實是確定會延誤但是那個延誤不會超過我們交屋的日期115年的搬遷的期限"},{"start":23403.322,"end":23428.416,"text":"115年年底這個不會超過好 那我希望說前面我們確實自己有延誤的部分希望還是要寬限重寬處理不然民眾會恐慌馬上明年2月又來了他到現在連安置街或是水電都沒有他根本沒有辦法進去蓋你明年2月要他針對樓地板每平補助3萬他明年2月沒蓋到他就說我就領不到錢所以今天這個問題是我們教"},{"start":23431.297,"end":23459.699,"text":"交這個水電安置接坡的土地根本還沒交給他他怎麼進場去蓋報告委員 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國城擔任主席除邀請提案委員黨團說明提案要旨並邀請相關機關代表列席報告並備諮詢"},{"start":27988.218,"end":27989.378,"text":"我們現在請召集委員林國成委員請補充說明"},{"start":28013.174,"end":28035.922,"text":"沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議不需再交由黨團協商請問院會有無異議沒有異議本案經審查會意見進行處理現在進行逐條討論道路交通管理處罰條例第七條之一第十二條第十四條均維持現行條文請宣讀第十六條"},{"start":28036.789,"end":28058.289,"text":"第十六條 汽車有下列前行遲疑者除汽車所有人新台幣九百元以上一千八百元以下罰款依各項異動不依規定宣報登記二 除頭燈外之燈光 雨刮 喇叭 照後鏡 排氣管 消音器設備不全或損壞不予修復或擅自增減變更原有規格 致影響行程安全"},{"start":28058.969,"end":28084.131,"text":"三 尾燈 煞車燈 倒車燈 方向燈 後霧燈 第三煞車燈輪廓邊界標示燈為污穢不清不予清潔或為他物增閉 致影響正常辨識四 位移規定與車身標明指定標示五 計程車位移規定裝置自動計飛器 車頂燈 職業登記證插座或在前後兩邊玻璃門上 連貼不透明反光紙"},{"start":28084.711,"end":28111.08,"text":"六 裝置高音量或發出不合規定音調之喇叭或其他產生噪音器物前項第一款屬非原形式排氣管不依規定申報異動登記者按前項發還最高額加倍處罰之並則令其於15日內檢驗公路監理機關得收取檢驗費用逾期15日以上者並調貨其牌照至檢驗合格後發還逾期2個月以上者註銷其牌照"},{"start":28112.04,"end":28135.396,"text":"第一款至第五款併音責令改正反光紙併音撤除第六款除音衣最高額處罰外該供應量或發出不合規定音調時喇叭或噪音器物併音沒入宣讀完畢我們照審查會條文通過紐許庭委員等提案第十六條之一不予爭定請宣讀第二十一條"},{"start":28136.26,"end":28156.036,"text":"第21條 汽機車駕駛人由下列第1款至第5款即行之一者機車駕駛人儲新台幣18000元以上 36000元以下罰款汽車駕駛人儲新台幣36000元以上 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汽車駕駛人駕駛連結車 大客車或大貨車有下列情形之一者 汽車所有人及駕駛人各處新台幣四萬元以上八萬元相還並當場一致保管該汽車一 未領有駕駛執照駕車二 領有機車駕駛執照駕車"},{"start":28373.371,"end":28395.398,"text":"三 零有小型車駕駛執照駕車四 零有大貨車駕駛執照駕駛大客車連結車或持大客車駕駛執照駕駛連結車五 駕駛執照液晶吊銷註銷人駕車六 使用衛造便裝或盟利之駕駛執照駕車七 駕駛執照吊扣期間駕車本條例中華民國一百十四年"},{"start":28396.298,"end":28419.772,"text":"10月28日修正公佈條文實行之日起汽車駕駛人於10年內第二次違反前項規定者依前項所定罰還最高的處罰第三次以上者按前次違反本項所處罰還金額加罰新台幣24,000元並均當場一致保管該汽車如肇事致人重傷或死亡得沒入該汽車汽車駕駛人於依第35條第一項規定"},{"start":28421.613,"end":28445.563,"text":"吊扣或吊銷駕駛執照期間違反第一項第一款至第五款者按第一項或第二項所處罰還加罰新台幣四萬元罰還第一項及第二項駕駛人因吊扣其駕駛執照一年至二年因而造勢致人受傷者並吊扣其駕駛執照二年至四年致人重傷或死亡者吊銷其駕駛執照並不得再考慮"},{"start":28446.283,"end":28469.469,"text":"第一項第五款或第六款之駕駛執照均應扣繳之第七款並吊銷其駕駛執照違反第一項進行使用之汽車於一致保管該汽車時扣繳其牌照並吊扣該汽車牌照三個月十年內違反二次者吊扣該汽車牌照六個月十年內違反三次以上者吊扣該汽車牌照一年"},{"start":28470.669,"end":28483.015,"text":"汽車所有人以擅盡查證駕駛人駕駛執照資格之注意或縱加以相當之注意而人不免發生違規者汽車所有人不受本條是處罰宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第27條 第30條 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麻醉藥品或其相類似之管制藥品本條例中華民國108年4月17日修正公佈條文申請之日起"},{"start":28636.136,"end":28660.998,"text":"汽機車駕駛人於十年內第二次違反第四項規定者處新台幣36萬元罰還第三次以上者按前次違反本項所處罰還金額加罰新台幣18萬元並均應當場一致保管該汽機車吊銷其駕駛執照公路主管機關得公布其姓名 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血液測試檢定結果之收集處理或利用應依個人資料保護法相關規定辦理並僅得作為執法利用有關血液採集測試檢定"},{"start":28819.938,"end":28834.35,"text":"保存消毀安全維護措施等程序方法數量期限及其他相關事項之變法由內政部會商衛生福利部反務部及交通部頂支宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過第35條之2第43條我們均維持現行條文請宣讀第44條"},{"start":28840.942,"end":28868.924,"text":"第44條 汽車駕駛人駕駛汽車有下列騎行之一者除新台幣600元以上1800元下方寬一 行進鐵路平橋道不將時速減至15公里以上二 行進衛社行車管制號之之行人穿越道不減速慢行三 行進設有彎道坡路狹路狹角或隧道標誌之路段或道路施工路段不減速慢行四 行進設有學校醫院標誌之路段不減速慢行"},{"start":28869.464,"end":28884.804,"text":"五 未依標示標線 耗時指示 減速慢行六 行進泥濘或積水道路 不減速慢行 致無視他的身體 已誤七 因語誤 視線不清或道路上臨時發生障礙 不減速慢行"},{"start":28885.465,"end":28900.315,"text":"汽车驾驶人驾驶汽车行进行人穿越道或其他依法可供行人穿越之交叉路口有行人穿越时不暂停让行人先行通过者处心台币1200元以上6000元以下罚款"},{"start":28901.315,"end":28917.771,"text":"汽車駕駛人駕駛汽車行進行人穿越道或其他依法可供行人穿越之交叉路口遇有攜帶白手杖或導盲犬之視覺功能障礙者時不暫停讓視覺功能障礙者先行通過者儲息奶幣2400元以上及1200元以下罰款"},{"start":28920.694,"end":28939.854,"text":"七孫駕駛人有前二項規定之情形因而肇事之人受傷者除薪台幣一萬八千元以上三萬六千元以下罰款調後駕駛執照一年至二年至人重傷或死亡者除薪台幣三萬六千元罰款吊銷其駕駛執照宣讀完畢照審會條例通過請宣讀第四十五條"},{"start":28940.56,"end":28961.726,"text":"第45條 汽車駕駛人爭到行駛有項鍊前行之一者除心台幣600元以上1800元一項防寬一 不按遵行之方向行駛二 在單車道駕車與他車並行三 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第3項後段 第4項後段 第5項後段第54條 第61條 第1項 第1款 第2款 第62條 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慢車未經核選擅自變更裝置或不依規定保持剎車零號燈光及反光裝置的安全設備之良好與完整者處慢車所有人新台幣300元以上1200元下緩緩並則另限其安裝或改正"},{"start":29442.822,"end":29466.668,"text":"電動輔助自行車及微型電動二輪車於道路行駛或使用擅自增減變更電子控制裝置或原有規格駐電動輔助自行車及微型電動二輪車所有人新台幣三千六百元以上七千二百元以下罰款禁止其行駛並則另改正宣讀完畢趙審商會條案通過請宣讀第七十八條"},{"start":29467.594,"end":29485.231,"text":"第78條行人在道路上有下列情形之一者除新台幣500元罰款依不依標誌標線號誌之指示或警察指揮而不在劃線之劃設之人行道通行或無真當理由在為劃設人行道之道路不靠邊通行"},{"start":29485.791,"end":29511.253,"text":"三 不依規定擅自穿越車道四 於交通頻繁之道路或鐵路平交道附近任意奔跑 追逐 吸油或坐臥蹲立足以阻礙交通五 聞消防車救護車警備車工程救險車毒性化學物質災害事故應變車之警號不立即避讓使用行動輔具者因人行道有障礙物至違反前項第二款規定者不予處罰"},{"start":29512.694,"end":29539.423,"text":"宣讀完畢趙審會條文通過請宣讀第八十條第八十條行人行進鐵路平橋道有下列情形之一者除息台幣四千八百元發還一部專手看守人員證實室或偵斷器開始放下或警鈴以閃光耗時以標示仍強行闖越二在無看守人員管理或無偵斷器警鈴及閃光耗時設備之鐵路平橋道"},{"start":29540.143,"end":29562.325,"text":"不依規定暫停看 聽 有無火車史來進行通過 宣讀完畢趙審查會條文通過 請宣讀第八十四條第八十四條 輸送或遷徙動物在道路奔走 妨害交通者 處事主或行為人薪台幣三百元以上 六百元以下罰款 宣讀完畢趙審查會條文通過 請宣讀第八十五條之三"},{"start":29562.779,"end":29590.655,"text":"第85條之3 第12條 第1項 第4項 第20條 第1項 第2項 第21條之1 第1項 第2項 第35條 第35條之1 第1項 第2項 第56條 第4項 第57條 第2項 第62條 第6項 第71條之1 第2項 第3項 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領有通貨車駕駛執照駕駛大客車連結車或持大客車駕駛執照駕駛連結車"},{"start":30144.506,"end":30162.399,"text":"五 駕駛執照液晶吊銷註銷人駕車六 使用衛造變造或模擬之駕駛執照駕車七 駕駛執照吊扣其間駕車本條例中華民國114年10月28日修正公佈條文實行至日起輕生駕駛人於10年內第二次違反前項規定者依前項鎖定罰款最高為處罰"},{"start":30163.3,"end":30189.978,"text":"第三次以上者按前次違反本項所處罰還金額加碼新台幣二萬四千元並均當場迎致保管該汽車如肇事致人重傷或死亡等目入該汽車汽車駕駛人於依第三九條第一項規定調控或調銷駕駛執照期間違反第一項第一款是第五款者按第一項或第二款所處罰還加碼新台幣四萬元罰還第一項及第二項駕駛人應調控及駕駛執照一年追二年"},{"start":30191.319,"end":30204.56,"text":"嬰兒肇事之人受傷者並吊扣其駕駛執照二年至四年之人重傷或死亡者吊銷其駕駛執照並不得再考慮第一項第五款或第六款之駕駛執照均應扣繳之第七款並吊銷其駕駛執照"},{"start":30206.262,"end":30234.289,"text":"違反第一項騎行使用之汽車於一致保管該汽車時扣繳其牌照並吊扣該汽車牌照三個月十年內違反二次者吊扣該汽車牌照六個月十年內違反三次以上者吊扣該汽車牌照一年汽車所有人以慎盡查證駕駛的駕駛執照資格之注意或縱加以相當之注意而忍不眠發生違規者汽車所有人不受本條之處罰"},{"start":30237.97,"end":30264.12,"text":"第35條 汽機車駕駛人駕駛汽機車經測試檢定有項鍊進行之一汽車駕駛人除新台幣15000元以上9萬元下罰款汽車駕駛人除新台幣3萬元以上12萬元下罰款並均當場一致保管該汽機車及吊扣其駕駛至早1年至2年負債為滿12歲兒童或1個葬事之人受傷者並吊扣其駕駛至早2年至4年"},{"start":30264.6,"end":30281.825,"text":"致人重傷或死亡者吊銷其駕駛執照並不得再考慮一 酒精濃度超過規定標準二 吸食毒品、冥幻藥、麻醉藥品或其相類似止滾劑藥品其身駕駛人有前項陰臭、吊扣及行駛駕駛營業、大發車者吊銷其駕駛執照"},{"start":30283.345,"end":30306.561,"text":"因而肇事且負債有未滿12歲的同志忍者按其調控駕駛執照期間將被處分本條例中華民國108年4月17日修正公佈條文施行之日起其機身駕駛人於10年內第二次違反第一項規定者依其駕駛車輛分別依第一項所定罰款最高額處罰之第三次以上者按其次違反本項所處罰款金額將罰新台幣9萬元"},{"start":30308.803,"end":30325.461,"text":"均因當場一致保管該汽機車吊銷其駕駛執照公路主管金關德公布其姓名照片即違法事實如證是致人重傷或死亡者吊銷其駕駛執照並不得再考慮汽機車駕駛人有下列更換騎行之一者除息財幣18萬元返還並當場一致保管該汽機車"},{"start":30329.085,"end":30355.002,"text":"吊銷其駕駛執照如駕駛之人重傷或死亡者吊銷其駕駛執照並不得再考慮一 駕駛汽機車行進警察機關設有公示執行第一項測試檢定之處所不依指示停車接受稽查二 拒絕接受第一項測試檢定三 接受第一項測試檢定前期時服用含酒精之物 毒品迷幻藥 麻醉藥品或其相類似致管之藥品"},{"start":30356.543,"end":30382.451,"text":"四 發生交通事故後 在接受第一次測試檢定前 稀釋服用含酒精之物 毒品 迷幻藥 麻醉藥品或其相類似之管制藥品本條例 中華民國108年4月17日修正公佈條文施行之日起 汽機車駕駛人於10年內第二次違反第四項規定者 處新台幣36萬元罰款第三次以上者 按前次違反本項所處罰款金額加罰新台幣18萬元 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文貨件大眾捷運系統車輛之身號或燈光不依規定避讓或在後跟隨破鏡十八 行進稅有停車再開標誌停標字或閃光紅的標誌是交叉路口不依規定停讓文消防車救護車警備車工程救險車毒性化學物質災害事故應變車子警號"},{"start":30760.169,"end":30777.774,"text":"不立即避讓者處汽車駕駛人薪台幣六千元以上三萬元下罰款並吊銷駕駛執照及吊貨該汽車牌照六個月其向其行制人死傷者處汽車駕駛人薪台幣一萬元以上十萬元下罰款並吊銷駕駛執照及該汽車牌照"},{"start":30779.758,"end":30804.867,"text":"第56條 汽車駕駛停車時有下列情形之一則除息台幣600元以上 1200元以下罰款一 在禁止臨時停車 住所停車二 在市有彎道 險坡 狹路標誌之路段曹化縣交通檔或道路修理地段停車三 在機場 車站 碼頭 學校 娛樂展覽 競技市場或其他公共場所出入口或消防栓之前停車"},{"start":30805.928,"end":30809.471,"text":"4.在税有禁止停车标志标限制出所停车5."},{"start":30809.471,"end":30813.816,"text":"在行有妨碍其他人车通行出所停车6."},{"start":30813.816,"end":30819.562,"text":"不依税项方向或不仅靠道路游策或单行道不仅靠路边停车7."},{"start":30819.562,"end":30823.105,"text":"于路边化有停放车辆限制出所停车营业"},{"start":30823.906,"end":30841.305,"text":"八 自用汽车在营业汽车账户站停车九 停车时间 位置 方式 车种不一规定十 与身心障碍专用停车位违规停车汽车驾驶人停车时有并排停车之情事者处汽车驾驶人新台币1800元以上3000元以下罚款"},{"start":30841.966,"end":30870.597,"text":"汽车驾驶人在道路收费停车 住所停车未依规定缴费主管机关应书面通知驾驶人于7日内补交并收取必要时公本费用于其再不缴纳除息费3美元罚款第一项及第二项进行交通勤务检查依法令执行交通机场任务人员或交通助理人员应则令汽车驾驶人将车移至适当住所如汽车驾驶人不予移置或不在村内时得由该交通勤务检查依法执行"},{"start":30871.617,"end":30897.758,"text":"交通機場任務人員或交通助理人員為之第一項第十款應以最高額處罰之第三項之欠費追繳之在圓環除通學區外交叉路口10公尺內公路主管機關市區道路主管機關或警察機關得在不妨礙行人通行或行車安全無預知原則設置必要之標誌或標線另行規定汽車之停車處所"},{"start":30901.223,"end":30929.879,"text":"第65條 汽車所有人駕駛人違反本條例經主管機關採取的書面送達後於30日之不便期間未向狗狹市高等行政法院地方行政訴訟庭提起撤銷訴訟或其訴訟經法院裁判確定而不講納法環或不講訟汽車牌照駕駛執照者依下列規定處理之一 經處分吊銷汽車牌照或駕駛執照者由公路主管機關進行注銷二 經處分吊銷汽車牌照或駕駛執照者"},{"start":30930.819,"end":30956.082,"text":"案起吊扣期间加倍处分人不依限其缴送汽车牌照或驾驶执照者吊下其汽车牌照或驾驶执照三 罚完不缴纳者依法移送强制执行第67条 汽车驾驶人曾以第21条第5项前段第21条之一第4项前段第27条第3项第29条之二第5项第39条第1项第3项后段第4项后段第5项后段"},{"start":30956.582,"end":30970.314,"text":"第54條第61條第一項第一環第二環第62條第4項後段規定吊銷駕駛執照者終身不得考領駕駛執照但有第67條之一鎖定騎行者主違反第35條第一項第三項後段"},{"start":30972.336,"end":30984.982,"text":"第四項後段第五項後段整位不在此限汽車駕駛人曾依第21條第五項後段第21條之一第四項後段規定吊銷駕駛執照者而年內不得考領駕駛執照曾依第29條第4項第30條第3項"},{"start":30988.184,"end":31010.329,"text":"第三十條之一第二項第三十五條第三項前段第四項前段第四十三條第二項第三項第四十四條第四項第四十五條第三項第六十一條第一項第三款第四款第四項第六十二條第四項前段規定吊銷駕駛執照者三年內不得考領駕駛執照汽車駕駛人駕駛營業大客車曾依第三十五條第二項規定"},{"start":31011.169,"end":31039.489,"text":"或汽车驾驶员曾因肇事致人重伤1第44条第4项规定吊销驾驶执照者4年内不得考领驾驶执照1第35条第5项简段规定或曾因肇事致人死亡1第44条第4项规定吊销驾驶执照者5年内不得考领驾驶执照汽车驾驶员曾依本条例其他各条规定吊销驾驶执照者1年内不得考领驾驶执照"},{"start":31040.069,"end":31057.881,"text":"汽車駕駛員曾以第二項及前項規定吊銷駕駛執照不得考領駕駛執照期間即達六年以上者終身不得考領駕駛執照但有第六十條之一鎖定騎行者除違反第三十五條第三項前段第四項前段第五項前段整位不在此限"},{"start":31059.545,"end":31082.981,"text":"汽車駕駛員曾依例三十五條規定吊銷駕駛執照 為依規定完成酒駕防治教育或酒飲治療不得考慮駕駛執照前項酒駕防治教育及酒飲治療是實施對象 教育或治療實施機構方式費用收取完成酒駕防治教育及酒飲治療是認定基準及其他相關事項執法由交通部會商衛生福利部定之第一項 第四項不得考慮駕駛執照規定與汽車駕駛員未領有駕駛執照"},{"start":31086.963,"end":31103.13,"text":"駕駛執照經吊銷或註銷者適用之汽車駕駛人違反本條例規定應受吊扣駕駛執照處分於汽車駕駛人未領有駕駛執照駕駛執照經吊銷或註銷者在所規定最長吊扣期間內不得考慮駕駛執照"},{"start":31106.505,"end":31123.507,"text":"第72條慢車未競合准擅自變更裝置或不依規定保持剎車零號燈光及反光裝置的安全設備是良好與完整者除慢車所有人新台幣300元以上以及200元以下罰款並則另限其安裝或改正"},{"start":31124.728,"end":31143.018,"text":"電動輔助自行車及微型電動二輪車於道路行駛或使用擅自增減變更電子控制裝置或原有規格除電動輔助自行車及微型電動二輪車所有人新台幣3,600元以上7,200元以下返還禁止其行駛並則另改正第78條"},{"start":31144.179,"end":31166.629,"text":"行人在道路上有項鍊騎行之一者屬新台幣500元罰款依不依標誌標線號之指示或警察指揮而不在劃設人行道通行或無正當理由在未劃設人行道之道路不靠邊通行三不依規定擅自穿越城道是於交通頻繁之道路或鐵路平交道附近任意奔跑追逐汽油或坐臥"},{"start":31167.929,"end":31183.858,"text":"蹲立足以阻礙交通五 文消防车 救护车 警备车 工程救闲车毒性化学物质灾害事故应变车区警号不立即屁障使用行动扶持者应准行动有差案物至违反前项第二款规定者不予以处罚"},{"start":31185.754,"end":31210.572,"text":"第80条 行人行进铁路平江道有项链骑行之一者处信台币4800元返还依不遵守看守人员之指示或侦断器开始放下或警铃移向闪光耗射以显示人强行闯越而在无看守人员管理或无侦断器、警铃及闪光耗射设备之铁路平江道不依规定暂停看听有无火车时来进行通过"},{"start":31211.392,"end":31228.111,"text":"第八十四條出動或遷徙動物在道路奔走妨礙交通者處四組或行為人性貸幣三百元上六百元以下罰款第八十五條之三第十二條第一項第四項第二十一條第一項第二項第二十一條之一第一項第二項第三十五條"},{"start":31228.672,"end":31253.127,"text":"第35條之一 第一項 第二項 第56條 第4項第57條 第二項 第62條 第6項第71條之一 第二項 第三項第70條之二 第一項 第73條 第二項 第三項及前條第一項之一致或扣留得由交通勤務警察亦法令執行交通機場任務人員進行一致或扣留75 第56條 第4項之一致得由交通助理人員進行為之"},{"start":31254.108,"end":31283.067,"text":"上述是一致貨扣留得使用民間拖吊車拖離之前項一致貨扣留得向車輛所有人收取一致費及保管費其不繳納者追搶之第一項一致保管貨扣留之車輛經通知車輛所有人限期領回借其為領回或無法查明車輛所有人均公告三個月人無人認領者由一致保管機關拍賣之拍賣所的加款應扣除違反本條例規定疫情繳納至罰還一致費保管費"},{"start":31284.268,"end":31304.978,"text":"及其他必要費用或依法提存前項公告無人認領之車輛符合廢棄車輛認定標準者依廢棄物行李法及其相關法規規定清除之依本條例應募入之車輛或其他職務經裁決或裁判確定者得判判相關或依廢棄物行李法及其相關法規規定清除"},{"start":31305.698,"end":31317.567,"text":"請無下有關移政保護管收取費用公告配賣移送處理之辦法在中央有交通部及內政部在地方有指甲室縣市政府依其權責分別定之"},{"start":31319.966,"end":31337.592,"text":"第87條 受處分人不符第8條或第37條第6項處罰之裁決者應以原處分機關為被告跡象管轄之高等行政法院地方行政訴訟庭提起訴訟其中撤銷訴訟之提起應於裁決訴訟的後30日之不便期間內為之"},{"start":31342.697,"end":31363.929,"text":"第92條之二 汽車駕駛人之體跟或體能變化有不合規定合格基準之情形應將駕駛執照繳回當地公路監理機關重新辦理駕駛執照資格審查公路主管機關未查核汽車駕駛人患有視覺功能障礙失智症 癲癇或其他足以影響汽車駕駛之體跟或體能變化情形"},{"start":31364.469,"end":31383.883,"text":"等下請下列機關提供相關資料受請求機關有配合提供事宜物一 衛生福利部主管身心障礙證明資料二 勞動部主管勞工保險勞工職業災害保險就事人給付資料三 農業部主管農民健康保險身心障礙給付農民職業災害保險身心障礙給付資料"},{"start":31385.243,"end":31411.953,"text":"四 權術部主管公校人員保險事人給付資料五 國防部主管軍人保險身心障礙給付資料公路主管機關經查核檢校所列機關提供之相關資料任汽車駕駛人由第一校鎖定情形者應通知該駕駛人限期重新辦理駕駛執照資格審查經通知辦理藉其人為辦理駕駛執照資格審查者由公路監理機關進行註銷其駕駛執照"},{"start":31413.433,"end":31440.954,"text":"公路主管機關依第二項規定所取得之資料應盡善良管理人士注意義務確實辦理資訊安全集合作業及保有處理及利用並應依個人資料保護法規定辦理第二項提供資料是蒐集處理利用項目程序及其他相關事項執辦法由交通部會商相關主管機關定之宣讀完畢報告委員會我們三讀條文已經宣讀完畢請問院會有文字修正"},{"start":31443.837,"end":31460.406,"text":"面文之后我们修正我们现在做以下决议道路交通管理处罚条例增订第92条之二条文并将第16条 第21条 第21条之一第35条 第44条 第45条 第56条第65条 第67条 第72条 第78条 第80条 第84条"},{"start":31472.335,"end":31483.133,"text":"第85條之3及第87條條文修正通過我們繼續處理審查會所做的附帶決議請議事人員宣讀附帶決議的內容"},{"start":31485.694,"end":31512.66,"text":"通過附帶決議四項一警交通部應於道路交通管理處條例第56條之第6項修正通過一個月內召集交易部及內政部國土管理署等相關部會及地方政府針對通學區之化設及其定義以上統一標準及內容二我國國人依規定考領之國內駕駛執照限於吊銷吊扣註銷及禁止考領駕駛"},{"start":31514.904,"end":31534.055,"text":"執照期間本不得在此外國駕駛執照換您我國駕駛執照為求明確請交通部應與道路交通管理安全規則明定相關規定一律國人遵守三請內政部警政署加強警員教育訓練加強取締停放中變更非原廠形式排放器"},{"start":31535.876,"end":31551.09,"text":"不依規定辦理變更登記之車輛是請交通部加強督導各道路主管機關系統性檢討規劃符合行車安全之合理車道配置避禦各類車輛安全行駛宣讀完畢"},{"start":31552.867,"end":31568.276,"text":"求院會有異議沒有異議我們就決定照案通過我們現在接下來進行完成立法程序後之後委員登記發言每位委員發言時間兩分鐘並截止登記首先我們請劉許廷委員發言林國成委員請準備"},{"start":31580.326,"end":31596.094,"text":"謝謝主席 各位委員同仁本席曾經擔任過桃園市議員在擔任市議員時期遇到最大宗的選民陳情事項就是噪音車擾民窗外震耳於御龍的轟鳴聲是人民的噩夢改裝排氣管的噪音車是人民的公敵"},{"start":31597.335,"end":31614.017,"text":"有鑑於此 環境部今年正式實施改裝排氣管的認證制度希望從源頭開始管控噪音污染的問題本期對此表示肯定 但是我們也要提醒好還要更好 現行罰環過低 多數人是罰不怕"},{"start":31614.858,"end":31633.858,"text":"而在責令改善的一個月期間內還像吃了無敵星星騎著噪音車開著噪音車四處橫行甚至也無需自行負擔檢驗費用因此本期提案並且在交通部共同支持修正條文的情況之下我們縮短了責令改善時間為15日而且若預期"},{"start":31635.299,"end":31664.759,"text":"不改善者直接处以扣牌处分,透过加重处罚以加速改善检验排气管的程序,如此期待更进一步还给居民一个宁静舒适的生活环境。另外,有关于并排停车的规范,现行制度无论车种时段、路段或者是停车的方式,没有考量违规样态的不尽相同,一律定额罚还,并没有使行政机关就个案对交通影响的程度来做斟酌的衡量。"},{"start":31665.519,"end":31686.457,"text":"為了使制度更符合比例原則本席域第56條修正條文中將定額調整為發還級距讓我們的執法機關能依個案情形與輕重不同的裁量權限道交條例是一部大部頭的法案我們在此要特別感謝林國成委員積極排案耐心溝通也感謝大院各位委員的共同支持謝謝"},{"start":31689.822,"end":31694.666,"text":"謝謝牛許庭委員的發言接下來我們請林國琛委員發言林月琛委員請準備"},{"start":31706.411,"end":31722,"text":"韓院長 全國的人民我想首先我要強調台灣民眾黨跟本席非常重視我們交通的安全我想修改法令當然要特別感謝"},{"start":31723.021,"end":31739.197,"text":"我們本院交通委員會各黨各派的委員及時廣義互相尊重的情況之下我們把它完成造交條例的有關的條例的修改這修改"},{"start":31739.958,"end":31765.8,"text":"有特別也就是提出無照駕駛這五年來特別成長22%所以在這個部分我們把法令也把它修改也就是開車要有執照是負責任的態度所以在這個部分我們加重處罰這個條例的修正另外一個照應改造的問題"},{"start":31767.481,"end":31793.093,"text":"這只要加重他的華澤在這個部分是會給台灣市民一個生活的安定另外一個就是久駕終身不能考照展現凝隆人的潔心所以本席非常重視六十七條這個部分一定要嚴格執行只要你久駕肇事至時"},{"start":31794.413,"end":31815.775,"text":"眾生不能考照這是今天六十七條修法的重點那另外一個就是照顧長者孩子也就是連長兒他發生事故我們也特別做成附帶結議在這個部分特別要去保護這些血統的安全所以最後"},{"start":31816.315,"end":31838.593,"text":"我還要再一次謝謝我們立法院交通委員會各黨各派的委員謝謝你們的支持所以在以繁榮的情況之下我們順利完成謝謝各位感謝大家謝謝林國成委員的發言接下來林月琴委員發言林倩琴委員請準備"},{"start":31853.359,"end":31864.668,"text":"主席 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地方主管機關為籌措停車場興建營運資金及獎注名路外公共停車場以提升其經營服務水準等有組列各款籌措專款一 有關規定設置停車場租業基金一 地方政府是一般財源二 上級政府補助三 公路使用養護安全管理費部分收入四 交通違規停車罰還收入五"},{"start":32427.933,"end":32449.96,"text":"路邊及公有路外公共停車場之停車費收入六 違規停車是移植費及保管費收入七 民間機構繳車之權利經濟租金收入八 一建築法第102條之一規定建築物附設停車空間繳納貸金收入九 公有停車場經營附屬事業收入十 基金資"},{"start":32450.76,"end":32452.502,"text":"交照審查會條文通過請宣讀第32條"},{"start":32471.653,"end":32491.867,"text":"第三十二條 汽車駕駛人於公共停車場以規劃之位置停放車輛如有任意停放至妨礙其他車輛行進或停放者主管機關 警察機關或停車場經營業得進行將該車輛移至適當處所前向任意停放如為佔用身心障礙者專用停車位"},{"start":32492.327,"end":32520.473,"text":"孕婦及育幼六歲以下兒童者停車位及汽車與電動汽車充電專用停車位未依規定使用停車場經營業應通報主管機關或警察機關公共停車場依法令規定設置供特定對象或車輛使用者停車位未具有相關車位停車識別證明或未符合規定車輛不得停放主管機關未確認違規佔用車輛駕駛人或所有人身份得向公路主管機關申請承襲資料宣讀完畢"},{"start":32521.144,"end":32522.686,"text":"教審會條文通過請宣讀第38條"},{"start":32545.771,"end":32550.593,"text":"照審查會條文通過報院會全案已經經過二讀現在由民進黨黨團 國民黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議面議我們請宣讀經過二讀這條文"},{"start":32560.339,"end":32582.919,"text":"第四條 地方主管機關為籌措停車場興建營運資金及獎注名路外公共停車場以提升其經營服務水準得有左列各款籌措專款依下列 依有關規定設置停車場作業基金依地方政府之一般裁員 而上級政府補助 增公路使用養護安全管理費部分收入 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各位全國的同胞大家好我想剛剛道交條例"},{"start":32735.455,"end":32763.807,"text":"也通過那現在停車場也三讀通過停車場法在這兩個法我要特別謝謝我們立法院交通委員會的所有的委員對於這些停車場法他的重視所以剛剛院長已經宣讀三讀通過那我要特別謝謝因為上會期"},{"start":32764.827,"end":32785.494,"text":"我是當交通委員會的召委那在當召委的過程當中特別謝謝三黨的各委員對於這些停車場法的關心所以特別這個修法幾四個條文通過以後對於電動車友善"},{"start":32787.515,"end":32800.28,"text":"充電器切衣不可的情況之下在這個部分停車場法明定他要有責任跟處罰條例另外安全隱憂的問題也就是電動車火災這些問題"},{"start":32804.682,"end":32822.01,"text":"也就是它的離電池來不易撲滅 容易燃燒這個部分我們也訂了有關的法令來嚇阻也不能在地下室來做這些電池的設置"},{"start":32825.111,"end":32851.205,"text":"所以這對所有大廈管理是有幫助有法的依歸所以在這個停車場法不足的法令在這一次的停車場法的部分我們都把它補足所以我要再度謝謝立法院謝謝我們所有的委員你們的幫忙你們的認真所有才有今天這個法通過謝謝大家感謝大家"},{"start":32853.175,"end":32866.054,"text":"謝謝林國成委員謝謝好 抱怨我們進入討論事項第四案公務人員考機法第三條第十一條及第十二條條文修正草案請宣讀審查報告"},{"start":32866.943,"end":32882.61,"text":"本院司法及法制委員會於14年8月14日、8月18日分別召開選定委員會議並按審查傷害草案由吳兆潔委員中心擔任主席主要檢天委員說明一條要請問考試院及相關機關應要指派代表領取說明及答覆委員詢問"},{"start":32884.09,"end":32889.471,"text":"請召集委員吳宗憲委員補充說明沒有補充說明本案經審查會決議不需要再交由黨團協商請問院會有異議"},{"start":32911.115,"end":32934.995,"text":"沒有意義本案經濟審查會意見進行處理現在進行逐條討論公務人員考積法請宣讀第三條第三條公務人員考積區分如下依年中考積值各官等人員於每年年中辦理期當年一月至十二月連續任期期間值考積而另於考積值各官等人員於同一考積年度內任職不滿一年而累計"},{"start":32937.397,"end":32963.397,"text":"任職已達六個月者辦理之考積三 專案考積指各官等人員平時有重大功過時隨時辦理之考積公務人員任職期間符合前項第一款或第二款規定為全無工作事實者不辦理年終考積或令餘考積但經機關選送待職待薪進修者不在此限宣讀完畢照審查會條文通過請宣讀第十一條"},{"start":32964.127,"end":32992.726,"text":"第十一條各機關參加考積人員認本值等年終考積具有下列個款進行之一者取得同官等高一值等之任用資格一二年列甲等者一二一年列甲等二年列一等者前項所稱認本值等年終考積指當年一月至十二月任職期間均認同一值等辦理之年終考積應育嬰留職提薪辦理之令於考積二年列甲等者設為年終考積一年列甲等"},{"start":32993.166,"end":33021.696,"text":"一年列甲等一年列乙等或二年列乙等者是為年終考級一年列乙等此項以外另於考級即以不同關等值等併資辦理年終考級之年資均不得予以併計取得高一值等升等任用資格但以不同關等值等併資辦理年終考級之年資得予以併計取得該併資之較低關等高一值等升等任用資格宣讀完畢趙省人會條文通過請宣讀第十二條"},{"start":33022.23,"end":33049.783,"text":"第12條 各機關辦理公務人員平時考核獎成獎勵分加獎技工技藝大功成處分升屆技過技大過於年終考機時並且成績增減總分平時考核獎成得互相抵銷無獎成抵銷而累積達二大過程年終考機應列聽等專案考機與友中大功過時行之其結果依下列規定依一次技二大功者進本封一級以達所需"},{"start":33051.184,"end":33073.437,"text":"只等本奉最高奉集或已续年公奉集者进年公奉一集均给予一个月奉集总额之一次奖金已续至年公奉最高奉集者给予二个月奉集总额之一次奖金但在同一年度内应在一次饥饿大公办理专案考集者不再进续奉集改给二个月奉集总额之一次奖金"},{"start":33073.957,"end":33097.862,"text":"而一次季二大过程免职前项第一款一次季二大工之标准应于试行系则中明定之专考期不得与平时考核奖程相抵消公务人员除在统一考进年度内矿职继续达四日或累计达十日应于一次季二大过程外非有具体施政足任有下列执行之一者不得为一次季二大过处分"},{"start":33098.382,"end":33118.898,"text":"一 圖謀背叛國家二 執行國家政策不力或擔負職責或洩漏職務上的機密致政府遭受重大損害三 違抗政府重大佔領或嚴重傷害政府信譽四 涉及貪污案件其行政責任重大五 圖謀不法利益或言行不檢致嚴重損害政府或公務人員生育"},{"start":33119.458,"end":33146.568,"text":"六 因服用酒量或使用毒品等之不能安全驾驶动力交通工具且发生交通事故致人于死或重伤或致人死伤而逃逸违反有关法律规定七 对他人为性侵害经有关禁闻或依法组成之相关委员会查证属实但经检察官提起公诉者应予一次计二大过处分八 对他人为性骚扰或跟踪骚扰使其遭受身心不法侵害情节重大"},{"start":33147.128,"end":33162.744,"text":"致受害人重大身心創傷或死亡9.對他人為之長霸凌使其遭受身心不法侵害情形重大致受害人重大身心創傷或死亡使脅迫公然侮辱或誣告長官情形重大"},{"start":33163.144,"end":33192.447,"text":"是依條目禮監獲破壞紀律情節重大是違反有關法令規定致嚴重損害政府或公務人員生育前向第七款單書人員經無罪判決確定者應撤銷其一次繼二大過處分公務人員之違實行為經主管機關或授權之所屬機關任屬一次繼二大過者懲處權行使期間為十五年屬繼一大過者懲處權行使期間為七年屬繼過或申屆者懲處權行使期間為五年"},{"start":33192.947,"end":33210.752,"text":"前項期間自違身行為終了之日起身行為屬不作為者自作為義務消滅時起身但行為之結果發生在後者自該結果發生時起身各機關對公務人員所為之懲處經相關救濟程序撤銷並由原處分機關另為釋法之處分者"},{"start":33211.973,"end":33230.096,"text":"懲處權行使期間自原懲處被撤銷確定之日重新起訴但算開案件部分撤銷原因即原懲處是由已遇懲處權行使期間者該等懲處是由不重新起訴懲處權行使期間宣讀完畢報告院會我們全案"},{"start":33231.252,"end":33235.518,"text":"趙審查會議條文通過報院會我們全案已經經過二讀現在有民進黨團國民黨黨團提議繼續進行三讀請問院會有異議沒有異議我們請宣讀經過二讀這條文"},{"start":33245.117,"end":33270.131,"text":"第三條 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