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我想我在這裡要跟部長就是這樣做一個交流我們以安全為最高的一個考量第一考量 嗯剛剛委員您報告那當然這部分就如同今天我一直在提到女足這件事情我想後續我們會讓足球協會在出發比賽之前需要好好瞭解不管是女足公會還是女足選手所需要的這一個對職員的需求 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性的策略要具有全面性，因為這些黃金計畫8年或12年的體育班選手，以後都會是你的精英選手，如何讓他們能夠兼顧學業，在訓練的過程中也能夠完整地接受訓練，達到雙贏的目的？","quality":0.814},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:26:27.078000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:26:28.380000+08:00","text":"我們希望這個部分，運動部跟教育部能夠再做全盤的協商。","quality":0.958},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T12:26:43.678000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:26:54.325000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我個人還有委員您，我們都非常重視體育班之後的發展，這部分我們確實有委託團隊在各個地方去開座談會了解體育班的需求。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T12:26:54.465000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:27:02.971000+08:00","text":"我想體育班需要注重的面向真的非常廣泛，除了專任運動教練、基層老師，還有學生運動員……","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:27:02.971000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:27:08.695000+08:00","text":"所以升級跟轉型一定要把它做完善一點。當然。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:27:08.875000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:28:04.568000+08:00","text":"最後，我要再跟部長討論下一個議題，我本人進入立法院，我對於運動選手的權益還有他的第二專長非常關心，今天要審查國體法第二十二條修正條文，其重點在於，體育部提供的辦法仍然偏重於成績優良運動選手獎勵的就業協助，對於曾經入選國家代表隊或是經過依法遴選的培訓運動選手的生涯發展，我覺得我們一定要給他很大的支持，而且要有一個很完整、明確的母法來做依據。","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:28:05.869000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:28:16.815000+08:00","text":"我看了運動部昨天送來的內容，發現運動部提出來的內容跟我的想法完全符合，也就是說我們是不謀而合的。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:28:17.675000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:28:20.677000+08:00","text":"我要請教部長，所謂績優選手的定義是什麼？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T12:28:21.581000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:28:38.856000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們每一個人對於績優選手的定義不太一樣，所以我們也希望在現行體制下，在績優運動選手就業輔導辦法裡面，可以更加明確地定義我們要怎麼去輔導他們。","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T12:28:41.258000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:29:01.394000+08:00","text":"對我來講，我覺得每一個為國爭光的選手並非可以用績優兩個字去個別定義，但我們希望在輔導上面幫助每一位選手，包括剛剛委員您提到的第二專長，這部分當然也會回到我們剛剛講的體育班的教育正常化……","quality":0.908},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:29:03.355000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:29:03.595000+08:00","text":"我知道。","quality":1},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:29:06.258000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:29:13.065000+08:00","text":"我們希望運動部能夠整合運動科技、賽事行銷與運動經紀等相關課程，來輔導選手未來的第二個專長，讓他們能夠學到這些技能。","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:29:23.797000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:29:53.053000+08:00","text":"談到第二個專長，我還要再跟部長交流，就是之前有跟部長提到運動防護員提升為運動防護師，在這裡我也很感謝運動部對於這個立法很關注，本辦在5月29號有辦了一個座談會，運動部也有來諮詢我們的整個內容，我們也樂意將各方面意見提供給運動部。","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:29:53.514000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:30:17.242000+08:00","text":"在這裡我要跟部長說，希望能夠全力支持運動防護員提升為運動防護師，部長有沒有意願，你們能夠提供你們的版本出來嗎？","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T12:30:18.305000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:30:42.435000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，在運動防護師這件事情上面，我們也確實找了物理治療學會、物理治療師公會，還有防護員協會去做了解，這部分我們會仔細聆聽他們的需求。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:30:42.795000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:30:47.337000+08:00","text":"我知道，最後會不會提出你們的版本？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T12:30:47.517000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:30:52.458000+08:00","text":"我們會先確認他們兩方對於這個議題的態度，因為目前就我了解……","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:30:52.659000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:30:58.561000+08:00","text":"這樣看起來，部長，你的決心還是不夠堅定、還在猶豫，我覺得……","quality":0.792},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T12:30:58.561000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:31:00.281000+08:00","text":"因為主要受影響的會是他們……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:31:02.623000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:31:04.645000+08:00","text":"以運動選手的安全為前提來講，我覺得運動部應該要站在同意的立場，共同來推這個法。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:31:04.745000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:31:31.112000+08:00","text":"畢竟運動選手的安全，不管是他的信念或是比賽的安全性，我想部長你應該是比其他的運動選手更能夠深深感受到，所以這也是我對部長的期望，希望你們能夠提出一個版本。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:31:32.574000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:32:14.512000+08:00","text":"在這裡再跟部長分享，後天新北市的國際田徑公開賽就要上場了，這一次我看了你們的報告之後，我要跟部長講，經過這次的教訓，國際比賽不能任意取消，這都是運動選手的權益，田徑協會去取消了之後，要重新申請的話，就不能以原來的方案去申請，要換一個名字，這不是兒戲，雖然不是運動部所為，但是運動部要監督協會，未來國際比賽一定要很慎重，這是選手比賽的舞台，我們一定要守護它。","quality":0.932},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T12:32:31.280000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:32:59.022000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員對於運動選手比賽權益的重視，在上次備詢時，我們也充分地展現了我們對於選手參賽的重視，因為這禮拜舉辦的田徑賽事確實會影響到名古屋的參賽資格，所以在上一次備詢之後，我們就馬上積極填寫，趕快做處理，我想這也是我們運動部對於……","quality":0.581},{"speaker":"蔡委員春綢","start":"2026-06-04T12:32:59.082000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-04T12:33:03.202000+08:00","text":"我知道運動部的努力，只是再提醒部長，未來不能讓類似的事情一再發生，因為事實上不是經費問題，現在我們的預算還沒有審，但是比賽還是照比啊……","quality":0.902},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-04T12:33:03.202000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-04T12:33:04.202000+08:00","text":"這部分我們核定了。","qu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