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,{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:21:13.780000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:21:19.383000+08:00","text":"或者是你們有沒有要求交通部或法務部能夠提供高風險的駕駛名單給你們？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:21:19.383000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:21:34.656000+08:00","text":"其實我在想的是這個，因為警察有時候是在跟著某一輛車，覺得某一輛車歪來歪去的，他可能要把他攔下來臨檢，但是他有沒有在第一個時間用他的小電腦查的時候，就可以很快地知道這個人過往大概是什麼樣的狀況？","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:21:34.656000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:21:36.277000+08:00","text":"有沒有辦法很即時地示警？","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:21:36.478000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:21:41.982000+08:00","text":"其實我一直在思考的是這個問題，我也一直在推動這個，所以這個人有沒有毒品前科？","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:21:42.102000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:21:43.544000+08:00","text":"有沒有高風險駕駛紀錄的資料？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:21:43.624000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:22:12.043000+08:00","text":"目前我們國家是分散在不同的系統，譬如說，交通監理一套系統、毒品紀錄一套系統、警政偵查又一套系統，所以這個系統沒有辦法橫向的連結，這就讓警察能夠得到的資料很少、少很多，所以這個吸毒的人有車子、有速度然後有駕照，可是警察沒有資訊，他什麼時候被撞他不知道啊！","quality":0.965},{"speaker":"廖副署長訓誠","start":"2026-06-08T09:22:12.183000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:22:22.553000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，現在我們第一線同仁手拿的M-Police一個小電腦的系統，這裡面不管是毒品的前科或者是高風險的毒駕，都有紀錄在裡面，","quality":0.831},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:22:23.434000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:22:25.836000+08:00","text":"好，那它有沒有去分級？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:22:25.836000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:22:28.079000+08:00","text":"其實今天員警有，對不對？對。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:22:28.079000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:22:47.537000+08:00","text":"但是我今天希望做到的是跨部會的處理，譬如說，交通部在駕照的管理上面、監理上面，你們今天告訴我的是，行政院希望毒駕致重傷、撞死人要吊銷駕照，但是我們希望的是，可不可以不要再撞傷、撞死人之後才去思考吊銷駕照？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:22:48.138000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:22:58.425000+08:00","text":"其實我們在思考的是這個問題，所以我剛剛一直講，我不是要這個人犯罪後被判多久，我要的是家人能平安回家，你跟我講那個沒有用嘛，對不對？","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:22:58.425000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:23:05.810000+08:00","text":"所以我還是希望警政署跟法務部、交通部可以想辦法看怎麼橫向的聯繫，建立起一個機制。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:23:10.427000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:23:24.832000+08:00","text":"再來，我跟交通部這邊提一下，因為今年宜蘭有發生一件事情，也是一個毒駕，23歲的年輕人吸喪屍煙彈，然後把一個宜蘭優秀的女老師當場撞死，而且連撞了7臺車子。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:23:26.493000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:23:36.301000+08:00","text":"我想請問一下，一個有毒品紀錄、神智隨時可能不清楚的人，他可以合法擁有駕照，目前你們對這個部分有沒有什麼想法？","quality":0.959},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:23:36.501000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:23:37.502000+08:00","text":"有沒有什麼管制方式？","quality":1},{"speaker":"胡司長廸琦","start":"2026-06-08T09:23:38.708000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:23:53.100000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，剛剛委員有特別提到要跨部會合作的部分，其實現在交通部跟警政署、衛福部、相關單位還有法務部，都有一個跨部會合作的機制。","quality":1},{"speaker":"胡司長廸琦","start":"2026-06-08T09:23:54.001000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:24:10.534000+08:00","text":"剛剛委員有提到源頭管理的部分，其實我們現在針對只要是確認吸毒者，不見得要有毒駕，就是剛剛您提到的，不要等毒駕了以後才去事後亡羊補牢，所以針對有吸毒者的部分，我們就會做預防性的吊銷駕照，如果他還是無照駕駛，我們會加重處罰。","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:24:10.675000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:24:11.635000+08:00","text":"那你們預防性吊銷駕照的部分有一套標準出來嗎？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"胡司長廸琦","start":"2026-06-08T09:24:11.675000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:24:12.076000+08:00","text":"我們已經在修法。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:24:12.096000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:24:12.536000+08:00","text":"目前還沒有是不是？","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"胡司長廸琦","start":"2026-06-08T09:24:12.576000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:24:12.816000+08:00","text":"對，我們現在已經在研擬法案。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:24:12.816000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-08T09:24:25.888000+08:00","text":"好，了解。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:24:25.888000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:25:05.250000+08:00","text":"那我先跟交通部講，這個就是我要的，我希望要有一個預防性的作為，因為今天我看到行政院各部會給我的報告都是事後的，我今天要求、拜託的是事前的，跟打詐一樣，事前不要讓詐欺的東西進來，事前我們不要讓煙彈或施用這些毒品的人可以輕易地去駕車，我想這是一個很重要的點，這個麻煩你們一定要做，因為我不希望今天我們國家都是一個太平間前面的政策，都是人撞死了，我們要怎麼補救、怎麼判他重刑、怎麼吊銷駕照，人民不是要這個，我跟你保證，人民都不是要這個，他只是要家人能夠平安的回來。","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:25:05.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:25:10.074000+08:00","text":"所以我希望拜託今天在場的各部會，為什麼請大家一起來？","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:25:10.074000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:25:20.282000+08:00","text":"主要我就是希望我們跨部會研擬彼此資訊的交流，因為交通部可能沒有毒品的資料，這怎麼樣橫向的串接？","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:25:20.942000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:25:43.937000+08:00","text":"而警政署、法務部這邊，法務部還有一些前科、判決等等的資料，警政署這裡可能沒有那麼完整，所以警政署跟法務部也可以一起合作，再跟交通部、跟衛福部彼此勾稽在一起，對於這些人的駕照要做怎麼樣政策性的管制，請你們找一個方式出來給我。","quality":0.911},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:25:46.588000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:25:48.449000+08:00","text":"法務部，你們這邊有什麼想法？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-06-08T09:25:55.011000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:26:04.793000+08:00","text":"對毒品的防制，我想是各部會都要合作，法務部最主要是緝毒的機關，那源頭的監理這部分，我們是希望……","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:26:04.974000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:26:55.692000+08:00","text":"我沒有意見，部長，我沒有意見，法務部是緝毒機關，我希望各部會針對我剛剛提的這個部分，麻煩你們在一個月內做報告，請看一下PPT上面的內容，因為時間的關係，我不多說，我希望朝這三個面向：駕照風險分級、強制限制條件還有警政預警系統，我希望針對這幾個部分，麻煩你們一個月內能夠給我一份報告，還有橫向的部分看要怎麼做，將來我看了這個報告也希望能夠給予一些建議，大家討論出一個怎麼樣幫民眾預先控管好這件事，不然我跟你說，我們往前四年到現在，每年都在暴增，甚至暴增到200倍，今年1到3月已經遠高於去年的1到3倍，所以我覺得不能夠再這樣下去了。","quality":0.928},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:26:56.412000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:27:05.104000+08:00","text":"我也要跟衛福部說明一點，為什麼我們過往也有毒駕，但是沒有像現在這麼嚴重、這麼誇張？","quality":0.892},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:27:05.104000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:28:00.401000+08:00","text":"因為過往……海洛因，我們都知道他可能要用針頭、要用錫箔紙，而安非他命，他可能要用水車，所以他在施用的時候，他沒有辦法一邊開車、一邊用，但是現在因為電子煙這個載具變成是拿來施用這些像喪屍煙彈一個很方便的器具，導致他一邊開車、一邊用，過往傳統施用毒品的器具讓他不便於一邊開車、一邊用，但是現在的狀況卻讓他便於這樣做，所以電子煙載具的管理也麻煩你們要做到，我也希望你們做到這三件事，請看一下PPT上面的內容，就是說你還是要修菸害防制法，還有地方毒防中心跟戒癮醫療，你要把依托咪酯個案納入專案的追蹤，還有一些合法的條件下，把一些高風險的資訊真的要跟其他單位做一些橫向的管制，這可以做到嗎？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"魏副署長璽倫","start":"2026-06-08T09:28:00.401000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:28:01.882000+08:00","text":"好的，謝謝委員，我們會做到。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:28:02.263000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:28:11.507000+08:00","text":"好，麻煩你們就這個部分一定要做到，也麻煩你們一個月內給我好不好？好。","quality":0.933},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:28:12.287000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:28:34.745000+08:00","text":"最後我還是希望一件事，就是說我們跨部會把這個事情處理好，這不是地方政府、單一地方政府就能做的，我知道地方政府可能在衛生局等等還是可以做一些事情，但是我今天在提的這個是要由中央層級去管理，橫向、跨部會把這個處理好，那才有辦法預防。","quality":0.981},{"speaker":"吳委員宗憲","start":"2026-06-08T09:28:36.105000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-08T09:28:59.830000+08:00","text":"今天我只能很遺憾的跟各位報告、跟國人報告，行政院今天給我的資料都是事後彌補的東西，所以我說那個叫太平間前的政策，它不是一個真正能夠有效預防毒駕的政策，再麻煩4個單位能夠幫幫忙，國人的生命，拜託大家要一起來，以蒼生為念，謝謝各位！","quality":0.971},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-08T09:29:00.330000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-08T09:29:01.758571+08:00","text":"謝謝吳委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-08T09:29:02.058571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-08T09:29:05.772857+08:00","text":"接下來我們請陳昭姿委員發言。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}