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收來放出去那第四個就是我們的存款準備金"},{"start":243.03,"end":270.539,"text":"總裁會不會跨部會合作透過財政部的降稅措施或者是行政院加大補貼以緩和低所得家庭受到長期通膨物價的影響會不會我想財政部他基於他的職權我相信他會很謹慎的來執行他本身的一個稅方面的一個政策"},{"start":270.919,"end":294.839,"text":"因為這一段時間大家都看到確實很多物價真的是在往上拉所以說很多一般的平民百姓你除了這些操作AI的這些可能會不影響以外一般平民百姓真的是衝擊很大基本上我跟委員報告就是說"},{"start":296.12,"end":317.204,"text":"是五月份的那個物價是有上漲啦不過長期以來 長期間各個機構對我們台灣的一個物價的一個預測呢基本上他們都認為是穩定的那相較於其他的主要經濟體來講的話呢台灣的一個物價還算是平穩的"},{"start":321.545,"end":349.534,"text":"好那個總裁台積電前景看好那網友流傳順口溜啊相信魏哲嘉明年買新家前陣子股東大會啊魏哲嘉董事長還說請繼續買台積電股票許多民眾啊延後買房的需求紛紛把這個資金投入股市提早賺到買房的頭期款不過啊根據內政部最新的統計"},{"start":350.914,"end":357.764,"text":"今年累計四個月全台建物買賣整個移轉的棟數約差不多8.05萬棟年減4.9%顯示股市熱絡房市冷清"},{"start":366.937,"end":383.802,"text":"那有專家認為說新清安政策應該轉型為全民啊守夠安心成家的政策不應該要有年齡收入房價貸款等這些限制那請問財政部莊部長你有什麼看法委員清安貸款從民國99年執行以來然後在112年的時候實施所謂的新清安到今年7月"},{"start":395.812,"end":413.407,"text":"它主要的目標還是在協助沒有自有住宅房屋的民眾去購買一間房屋來做自住使用所以政府有相關的一些措施所以說你要是協助你不要說一定定位在某某個年齡層這個很重要啊在7月31號新青安屆期以後後續如何的執行我們也在聽取各界的意見而且財政部也邀集了相關的部會一起來討論"},{"start":422.894,"end":448.275,"text":"我們會從民眾的需求 金融市場 房地產市場等多面向來考慮然後將會提出方案我們當時也說希望是在六月底前提出整個方案然後跟社會各界來做說明那個部長新青安2.0的政策傳聞滿天輝那拔草側風向財政部說六月底剛剛您有講一定會公布時間越靠近外界的預測會"},{"start":449.716,"end":464.463,"text":"有啊這些申請人的年齡還有貸款的年限不超過80的80條以年所得200萬以上家庭不得申請的排付條款外界是希望趕快把遊戲規則來做公布"},{"start":468.146,"end":480.639,"text":"讓有自助需求的這些民眾有充足的時間來研究哪一個貸款的方案比較適合自己對於新清安的2.0政策中央銀行是否有參與討論那個楊總裁你們有沒有參與討論"},{"start":484.224,"end":505.776,"text":"是有的有齁那對星期二點您的相關方案是否都大致認同我想因為現在都院裡面事實上我們還有相關的單位財政部也有召開幾次的討論行政院也有召開幾次的討論"},{"start":507.077,"end":532.306,"text":"央行是否又會對這些房市重新上演信用管制的措施會不會我想到目前為止選擇性信用管制到目前為止事實上是就到這裡中央銀行5月公布金融穩定報告提到國內股市結構對科技產業依賴程度偏高"},{"start":533.166,"end":550.272,"text":"若相關產業緊急出現波動恐擴大整個股市整體波動的幅度加以近期市場對AI這些相關產業高估值之餘力升溫短期可能加劇整個股價的震盪長期若AI發展未如預期"},{"start":553.973,"end":581.3,"text":"亦可能引發評價修正的風險那因為地緣政治風險升高可能會影響整個全球供應鏈及科技產業發展進一步來增添整個市場不確定性相關影響事宜繼續關注那多間的這些投顧預測今年台股有望挑戰這個五萬點的大關那我請問央行有看到台股熊市的跡象嗎"},{"start":581.98,"end":608.406,"text":"有沒有我跟委員報告就是說我們的穩定報告裡面有提到說這個AI的那個就是說是會有過熱的一個現象事實上這個是我們的穩定報告引用IMF的一個報告而不是我們的本身的一看法他是就整體來看那至於就是說"},{"start":609.867,"end":623.042,"text":"至於就是說我們台股是熊市那這個就是說投資人在因為他速度快這樣的速度快投資人呢這個事實上的股市不是中央銀行的資權"},{"start":624.924,"end":640.102,"text":"總裁 站在金融穩定的立場來看台股外界擔心世代同行 貸款的貸喔世代同行的現象越來越多資金落大幅度的流向股市那請問央行對台灣的整體產業發展有沒有隱憂"},{"start":642.945,"end":664.992,"text":"我想他的資金往股市這邊事實上據我了解金管會是在密切注意他現在是很嚴重喔真的喔 那些年輕人都跑去做當沖甚至於人帶的都帶"},{"start":667.493,"end":688.798,"text":"股市有一天要是真的走到那個整個下滑你看那時候會怎麼辦很嚴重喔你們應該要去做多方面的考量跟呼籲事實上我跟委員報告目前最近的一個修正下檔修正我認為那是健康的啦"},{"start":689.699,"end":692.403,"text":"那有的時候不能只是上沒有下但是他最近的一個修正我個人認為那是健康的OK 好 希望如此謝謝林德福委員下一位資訊委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:21:39.672000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:21:44.278000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，請央行楊總裁，還有財政部莊部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T09:21:44.278000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-10T09:21:45.278000+08:00","text":"請中央銀行楊總裁、財政部莊部長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:21:45.278000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-10T09:21:46.278000+08:00","text":"林委員早。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:21:44.278000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:21:45.120000+08:00","text":"總裁你好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:21:45.160000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:22:20.842000+08:00","text":"我請教，橋水基金創辦人達里歐近期接受訪問，他認為美國正面臨貨幣、政治、國際秩序三大系統同步崩壞，並預言伊朗戰爭可能成為終結美元霸權的「蘇伊士時刻」。","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:22:22.384000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:22:35.213000+08:00","text":"但也有專家認為，美國發動中東戰爭背後目的就是要改變整個石油能源的供給結構，同時也鞏固美元的霸權。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:22:35.213000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:22:43.438000+08:00","text":"美國目前穩居全球最大產油國的地位，原油日均產量維持在1,350萬桶到1,370萬桶的歷史高位區間。","quality":0.949},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:22:43.438000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:22:44.479000+08:00","text":"對此，楊總裁如何評估地緣政治風險對美元的影響？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:22:58.327000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:22:59.007000+08:00","text":"你有沒有什麼看法？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:23:00.908000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:23:24.456000+08:00","text":"報告委員，這一次美伊戰爭比原先的預期稍微久一點，所以它對石油價格的影響也稍微高且長一點，不過目前也慢慢下來了。","quality":0.961},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:23:28.937000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:23:50.747000+08:00","text":"這個戰爭對美元的霸權是不是會有很深遠的影響，以目前來看，事實上從中東戰爭還有其他的地緣政治來看，美元的地位到目前為止，我總覺得它還是保持著全球最重要的一個……","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:23:50.747000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:23:52.427000+08:00","text":"你認為有沒有去美元化的可能呢？","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:23:56.249000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:24:14.257000+08:00","text":"如果說會有去美元化的現象，這大概是一個比較長遠的現象，如果是從可預見的將來來看的話，我個人還是認為，美元還是主導整個全球的金融制度。","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:24:14.377000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:24:30.569000+08:00","text":"總裁，央行將於6月18日召開第二季理監事會，外界預估6月央行不升息的機率比較高，暫時按兵不動。","quality":0.974},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:24:30.909000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:25:00.187000+08:00","text":"央行前陣子談到，K型經濟下，僅倚賴總體經濟金融指標可能會誤導央行的決策，也沒有辦法只仰賴利率工具，可能還需要搭配更精準的政策措施，因為一旦升息，對於中低所得的家庭，將加重其借貸負擔，並縮減實質的購買力。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:25:01.448000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:25:06.519000+08:00","text":"我請問總裁，央行所謂更精準的政策措施有可能是哪些？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:25:11.963000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:25:30.849000+08:00","text":"除了穩定匯率是一個措施，另外一個是剛剛委員所說的利率調整，第三個，我們平常所使用的就是公開市場操作，就是資金進出，也就是資金收來、放出去，收來、放出去。","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:25:31.349000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:25:33.829000+08:00","text":"第四個就是我們的存款準備金。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:25:36.030000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:25:50.395000+08:00","text":"總裁，會不會跨部會合作，透過財政部的降稅措施或是行政院加大補貼，以緩和低所得家庭受到長期通膨物價的影響？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:25:52.715000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:26:03.519000+08:00","text":"財政部基於他的職權，我相信他會很謹慎地執行他本身稅方面的政策。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:26:03.919000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:26:23.716000+08:00","text":"因為這段時間大家都看到，確實很多物價真的是在往上拉，除了操作AI的這些可能比較不受影響以外，一般平民百姓真的是衝擊很大。","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:26:25.798000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:26:50.184000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，5月份的物價是有上漲，不過長期間各個機構對臺灣物價的預測，基本上他們都認為是穩定的，相較於其他主要的經濟體來講，臺灣的物價還算是平穩的。","quality":0.985},{"speaker":"林委員德福：好。總裁，台積電前景看好，網友流傳一句順口溜","start":"2026-06-10T09:27:00.967000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:27:09.670000+08:00","text":"「相信魏哲家，明年買新家」，前陣子股東大會上，魏哲家董事長還說，請繼續買台積電股票。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"林委員德福：好。總裁，台積電前景看好，網友流傳一句順口溜","start":"2026-06-10T09:27:10.450000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:27:19.953000+08:00","text":"許多民眾延後買房的需求，紛紛把資金投入股市，提早賺到買房的頭期款。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福：好。總裁，台積電前景看好，網友流傳一句順口溜","start":"2026-06-10T09:27:20.453000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:27:30.744000+08:00","text":"不過根據內政部最新的統計，今年累計四個月，全臺建物買賣移轉的棟數差不多8.05萬棟，年減4.9%，顯示股市熱絡，房市冷清。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福：好。總裁，台積電前景看好，網友流傳一句順口溜","start":"2026-06-10T09:27:40.117000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:27:53.281000+08:00","text":"有專家認為，新青安政策應該轉型為全民首購安心成家的政策，不應該有年齡、收入、房價、貸款等限制。","quality":0.927},{"speaker":"林委員德福：好。總裁，台積電前景看好，網友流傳一句順口溜","start":"2026-06-10T09:27:55.121000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:27:55.501000+08:00","text":"請問財政部莊部長，你有什麼看法？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-06-10T09:27:55.521000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:28:18.760000+08:00","text":"委員，青安貸款從民國99年施行以來，然後在112年的時候實施新青安到今年7月屆止，其主要的目標還是在協助沒有自有住宅房屋的民眾，去購買一間房屋來自住使用，所以政府有相關的一些措施……","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:28:18.780000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:28:22.303000+08:00","text":"所以你要去協助，而不是一定要定位在某個年齡層，這個很重要啊！","quality":0.852},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-06-10T09:28:22.323000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:28:26.407000+08:00","text":"在7月31日新青安屆期以後，後續要如何執行，我們也在聽取各界的意見，而且財政部也邀集了相關部會一起來討論。","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-06-10T09:28:35.894000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:28:41.779000+08:00","text":"我們會從民眾的需求、金融市場、房地產市場等多面向來考慮，然後最後提出方案。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:28:41.779000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-10T09:28:42.779000+08:00","text":"哪時候可以決定？","quality":0},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-06-10T09:28:42.740000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:28:48.424000+08:00","text":"我們當時也說希望在6月底以前可以提出方案，跟社會各界說明。","quality":0.885},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:28:49.125000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:29:15.442000+08:00","text":"部長，新青安2.0政策傳聞滿天飛，拔草測風向，財政部說6月底，剛剛您有講一定會公布，時間越靠近，外界預測會有申請人年齡和貸款年限不超過80的「80條款」，以及年所得200萬以上的家庭不得申請的排富條款。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:29:15.962000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:29:27.933000+08:00","text":"外界是希望趕快公布遊戲規則，讓有自住需求的民眾有充足的時間，研究哪一個貸款方案比較適合自己。","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:29:28.954000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:29:33.138000+08:00","text":"對於新青安2.0政策，中央銀行是否有參與討論？","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:29:33.199000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:29:33.639000+08:00","text":"楊總裁，你們有沒有參與討論？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:29:37.224000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:29:37.545000+08:00","text":"是，有的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:29:39.165000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:29:44.348000+08:00","text":"對新青安2.0的相關方案是否都大致認同？","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:29:46.710000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:29:58.776000+08:00","text":"因為現在院裡面……事實上我們和相關單位，包括財政部也有召開幾次討論，之後行政院也有要召開幾次討論。","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:30:00.077000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:30:05.019000+08:00","text":"央行是否又會對這些房市重新上演信用管制的措施？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:30:05.379000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:30:06.859000+08:00","text":"會不會？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:30:06.859000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:30:16.743000+08:00","text":"我想選擇性信用管制到目前為止就到這裡。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:30:16.743000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:30:50.134000+08:00","text":"中央銀行5月公布金融穩定報告提到，國內股市結構對科技產業依賴程度偏高，若相關產業景氣出現波動，恐擴大股市整體波動的幅度，加上近期市場對AI相關產業高估值的疑慮升溫，短期可能加劇整個股價震盪，長期若AI發展未如預期，亦可能引發評價修正的風險。","quality":0.946},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:30:50.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:31:02.917000+08:00","text":"因為地緣政治風險升高，可能會影響整個全球供應鏈及科技產業發展，進一步增添整個市場的不確定性，相關影響仍須繼續關注。","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:31:03.697000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:31:14.300000+08:00","text":"多間投顧預測，今年臺股有望挑戰5萬點大關，請問央行有看到臺股熊市的跡象嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:31:14.980000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:31:15.200000+08:00","text":"有沒有？","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:31:15.920000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:31:39.205000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，我們的穩定報告裡面有提到，AI會有過熱的現象，事實上這個是我們穩定報告引用IMF的報告，不是我們本身的看法，他是就整體來看。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:31:40.746000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:31:45.650000+08:00","text":"至於臺股是不是熊市？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:31:49.795000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:31:56.042000+08:00","text":"因為它漲得速度快，事實上股市不是中央銀行的職權……","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:31:57.924000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:32:07.275000+08:00","text":"總裁，站在金融穩定的立場來看臺股，外界擔心「四貸同堂」的現象越來越多，是貸款的貸喔！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:32:08.156000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:32:13.102000+08:00","text":"資金若大幅度流向股市，請問央行對臺灣的整體產業發展有沒有隱憂？","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:32:18.486000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:32:28.289000+08:00","text":"他的資金往股市這邊，據我了解，金管會有在密切注意它。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:32:31.310000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:32:33.471000+08:00","text":"其實現在很嚴重，真的喔！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:32:34.291000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:32:47.135000+08:00","text":"年輕人都跑去做當沖，甚至把能貸的都貸了，要是股市有一天真的整個下滑，你看到時候會怎麼辦？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:32:47.135000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:32:47.735000+08:00","text":"會很嚴重喔！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:32:48.535000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:32:53.096000+08:00","text":"你們應該要去做多方面的考量跟呼籲。","quality":1},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:32:53.096000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:33:01.678000+08:00","text":"事實上，我跟委員報告，最近的下檔修正，我認為那是健康的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:33:01.678000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-10T09:33:03.120000+08:00","text":"希望如此。","quality":0},{"speaker":"楊總裁金龍","start":"2026-06-10T09:33:03.120000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:33:04.502000+08:00","text":"不能只是上，沒有下，但是它最近的修正，我個人認為那是健康的。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"林委員德福","start":"2026-06-10T09:33:04.582000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:33:04.943000+08:00","text":"OK，希望如此，謝謝。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T09:33:04.963000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:33:05.263000+08:00","text":"謝謝林德福委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T09:33:05.263000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T09:33:05.403000+08:00","text":"下一位質詢委員賴士葆委員。","quality":0.417}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}