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我們大家也都很重視電競發展我還是台南市電競發展委員會的主任委員現在"},{"start":528.539,"end":544.666,"text":"可是我覺得現在要顧及法律的這個定位跟行政手段的配合那所以不如在詢答後我們是不是暫緩相關這個法律案的審查那賴立委職權範圍內我們多多透過質詢預算提案監督這個運動部的在電競運動跟產業上的輔導這樣子或許有效率的多趙委在這邊我最後要請教部長有幾點第一個"},{"start":556.852,"end":560.457,"text":"就針對這個運動產業就電競產業的法規命令的部分你預計什麼時候要做修訂因為你的那個報告上我提及第二就你有規劃再邀集產官學的這個人士在運動部召開更大規模的這個產官學會議嗎"},{"start":575.916,"end":593.853,"text":"那討論應該用怎麼樣的行政手段去支持所有的數位科技的這個運動那第三是運動部在收集這個今天的意見之後因為早上公聽會嘛那我們是不是會加以在運動部明年度的預算來呈現來編列支持數位科技運動這個項目 部長"},{"start":595.815,"end":610.584,"text":"跟委員您報告那在不好意思因為時間到了是不是提他提我書面好部長回答謝謝因為時間已經到了那部長先回答嘛我已經問完了跟委員您是不是請書面提供資料這很簡單可以簡達啦好簡達好不好跟委員好謝謝趙偉"},{"start":612.205,"end":632.209,"text":"各位委員您報告那首先在法規命令的時候我們因為我們要這個讓電子競技更加完善是否給我們一點時間三個月完整的辦法我們可以來提出那我們一定會召開這個產官學的綜合綜合座談這個肯定能做到那明年的年度預算目前我們已經編列3000萬的這個預算來支持這個電競產業是"},{"start":636.67,"end":645.466,"text":"好,謝謝,謝謝部長所以,稍微趕快審運動部的預算啦齁,這個才是最重要的當務之急謝謝委員謝謝委員,謝謝部長"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:41:29.973000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:41:30.333000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請李部長。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T14:41:30.333000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:41:30.453000+08:00","text":"有請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T14:41:30.453000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-10T14:41:31.453000+08:00","text":"委員午安。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:41:30.453000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:42:01.264000+08:00","text":"早上才剛排公聽會，會議紀錄及相關建議都還來不及消化，下午又馬上要詢答加逐條討論電競基本法，本席在這裡嚴正抗議，對於這種擺明了就是要過過水、強渡關山的排案方式，請問部長你是否認同？","quality":0.866},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:42:01.985000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:42:19.465000+08:00","text":"照理說，我們應該要讓所有意見有更完整的整理及沉澱，甚至要把更多運動類別的意見都加進來，不應該今天就這樣過水來審查電競基本法，部長你的看法呢？","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T14:42:20.199000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:42:55.289000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，在今天早上的公聽會聽到非常多專家學者對於電子競技發展提出意見，不管是本部還是各位委員，其實都希望可以來發展，我們也希望能夠吸收這樣的意見以及想法，其實不管是次長還是我，我們希望在下禮拜能夠繼續跟專家學者就實務上能夠幫助到電競產業跟運動的做法，我們也希望能夠請他們與會來了解我們該怎麼做可以更加完善。","quality":0.884},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:42:57.489000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:43:31.609000+08:00","text":"我要強調的是，並不是每個政策領域的特定項目都可以輕易用基本法這個架構來規範，任何一個運動項目也不一定要立專法來規範，羅召委在草案總說明其實也有提到歐美國家對於電子競技運動之政策定位各有不同，未必採取單一專法規範，所以我認為重要的是各政策工具怎麼樣執行，而不在於法律規範的位階有多高或是有沒有用專法來規範。","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:43:31.729000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:43:53.789000+08:00","text":"我想運動部成立的核心當然就是要來大力發展臺灣的運動產業，今年已經過了一半，可是對於運動部今年度的預算羅召委連一塊錢都還沒有審，卻反而要立基本法來保障所謂的電競產業，這會不會太本末倒置？","quality":0.839},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:43:54.609000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:44:00.175000+08:00","text":"如果運動部連最基本的運作都成問題，我們要如何談發展運動產業？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:44:01.796000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:44:19.590000+08:00","text":"堂堂運動部是一個完整的部會，可是到現在沒有正常的預算可以使用，只能沿用過去體育署的總預算去硬撐，難道我們現階段沒有更迫切的需求，就是要讓運動部正常運作啊，不是嗎？","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:44:20.611000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:44:27.757000+08:00","text":"運動部得不到這樣的預算支持，不要說電競產業，其他的運動產業也都會受到很大的影響。","quality":0.973},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:44:27.757000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:44:39.028000+08:00","text":"所以我要請教部長，你可不可以跟我們分享一下，運動部運作到今天，因為預算的不正常、預算的短缺，你們有哪些工作沒辦法完整落實？","quality":0.945},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T14:44:40.570000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:45:04.392000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，當然就如同委員剛剛講的，因為運動部是去年成立，今年的預算只能沿用去年體育署的整體預算，其中最受打擊的是全民運動署，因為過去它是體育署的全民組，其實全民運動署在今年有很多新興的計畫是沒辦法支用預算的。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T14:45:04.712000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:45:18.267000+08:00","text":"當然也很感謝在各位委員的努力下，讓國際司8億的預算已經可以先行動支，其實我們最容易被影響到的是跟全民運動發展比較息息相關的部分。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:45:18.567000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:45:20.869000+08:00","text":"是，我後面會跟您討論一下全民運動。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:45:24.352000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:45:31.698000+08:00","text":"不論是羅召委或葛委員的提案，其實有哪一條不是小改一下文字就可以套用到任何運動上面？","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:45:32.319000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:45:35.381000+08:00","text":"大家可以好好來看他們的法條。","quality":0.923},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:45:35.742000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:45:39.525000+08:00","text":"憑什麼李洋部長最專門的羽球沒有基本法？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:45:40.386000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:45:42.527000+08:00","text":"憑什麼我最為之瘋狂的棒球沒有基本法？","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:45:43.549000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:45:48.837000+08:00","text":"如果每個人都要來搞個基本法，這樣子的話，基本法到底是什麼樣的概念？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:45:49.618000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:45:50.799000+08:00","text":"是不是就是在作秀而已？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:45:52.041000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:46:02.935000+08:00","text":"基本法其實是所謂的定綱大法，所以我們有教育基本法、我們有文化基本法，看得出來它是框一個方向。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:46:03.975000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:46:17.745000+08:00","text":"很明顯的，現在光是一個運動產業、一個運動項目都要搞基本法，所以想要請教李洋部長，你是否有跟其他運動產業或者運動專業人士討論到這件事情？","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:46:18.346000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:46:24.430000+08:00","text":"如果今天羅召委硬要搞一個電競基本法，其他人是不是有很深的相對剝奪感？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T14:46:26.512000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:47:02.913000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，首先當然就如同委員所說的，針對電子競技運動，我相信不管是今天上午的公聽會，不管是委員您還是運動部，其實我們都支持電競的發展，但是如果單獨立電競基本法，我想對其他運動而言還是會有相對剝奪感，不管是委員您為之瘋狂的棒球、籃球，還是我自己參與的羽毛球、田徑等等項目，我想在運動部來講，每一個項目都是我們非常重視的運動發展，這一點要先跟委員您說明。","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:47:04.294000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:47:22.424000+08:00","text":"部長，上個禮拜我們在詢答的時候，你就有明確表態，針對召委排審的電競基本法，你的態度是你希望支持每個運動項目，如果專為單一運動項目訂定基本法，就如同你剛剛講的，你覺得會對其他項目有失公平。","quality":0.871},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:47:25.025000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:47:33.808000+08:00","text":"我覺得你這樣的說法就是有一定的高度，因為你要平等去看待每一個運動的發展，而不是著眼於單一的運動。","quality":0.978},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:47:34.568000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:48:03.629000+08:00","text":"今天既然有一個獨立的運動專責部會，也就是運動部，我們把體育署升格成運動部，當然重要的目標就是要讓整體的運動產業共榮發展才對，所以今天如果要進入法案的逐條討論，我想要請部長站穩立場，也就是說，我們要為整體運動產業的均衡發展以及所有運動項目的公平來發聲，可以嗎？","quality":0.908},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T14:48:03.629000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:48:23.442000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，當然站在運動部的立場，就是希望可以讓每一個運動都足以被重視，然後我們努力的發展各個我們重視的運動，就如同之前全民運動署訂立的新興極限運動一樣，我想這都是我們對於每一項運動的重視。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:48:25.323000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:48:46.316000+08:00","text":"我要重申徒法不足以自行，這正體現針對電競這項運動我們到底需要多少行政手段下去支持，如果立了法律層級的法律，卻沒有相對應的政策工具能支持，我覺得法律就會變得有名無實啊！","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:48:46.737000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:48:51.299000+08:00","text":"像現在沒有預算支撐，這樣子訂立這個法律有什麼用？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:48:51.960000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:49:00.445000+08:00","text":"所以重點在於政策工具怎麼樣去支撐、用怎麼樣的行政法令去支撐嘛！","quality":0.862},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:49:01.225000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:49:42.524000+08:00","text":"在運動部的書面報告裡面也有提到，你們正在草擬的數位科技運動項目輔導獎勵及補助辦法要具備與時俱進的滾動修正彈性，其中還特別強調要考量電競產業環境變動極快，以法律層級的基本法來規範，面對快速變化的數位市場，恐怕會缺乏調整的彈性，所以運動部傾向要深化落實既有制度，並搭配制定前瞻性法規命令的策略做法，來快速回應電競產業及所有產業發展的需求。","quality":0.899},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:49:47.028000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:49:57.332000+08:00","text":"我再明確的講，針對電競產業制定基本法，一來失去彈性，二來我們沒有深刻的行政手段支持，那就是一個虛法嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:49:57.833000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:50:00.654000+08:00","text":"可是預算還沒有通過，你的行政手段怎麼處理？","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:50:01.454000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:50:28.166000+08:00","text":"所以我在這邊要懇切地向召委提醒，你的出發點很好，我們也都很重視電競發展，我現在還是臺南市電競發展委員會的主任委員，可是我覺得要顧及法律的定位以及行政手段的配合，所以不如在詢答後，我們是不是暫緩相關法律案的審查，在立委職權範圍內，我們多多透過質詢、預算提案來監督運動部在電競運動和產業上的輔導，這樣子或許會更有效率，召委。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:50:28.206000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:50:43.374000+08:00","text":"我最後要請教部長幾點問題，第一，針對電競產業法規命令的部分，你預計什麼時候要做修訂？","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:50:43.374000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:50:43.714000+08:00","text":"因為你的報告上有提及。","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:50:43.835000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:05.681000+08:00","text":"第二，你有規劃再邀集產官學人士，在運動部召開更大規模的產官學會議，討論應該用什麼樣的行政手段去支持所有的數位科技運動嗎？","quality":0.964},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:06.962000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:18.853000+08:00","text":"第三，運動部今天蒐集意見之後，因為早上是公聽會，你們是不是會在運動部明年度預算來加以呈現，編列支持數位科技運動的項目，部長？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:20.815000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:21.416000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告……","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:22.136000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:22.636000+08:00","text":"委員，不好意思！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:22.776000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:24.137000+08:00","text":"因為時間到了，是不是請他提供書面？","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:24.397000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:25.878000+08:00","text":"請部長回答，謝謝。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:25.878000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:26.879000+08:00","text":"不好意思，因為時間已經到了。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:27.239000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:28.100000+08:00","text":"讓部長先回答嘛！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:28.280000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:28.920000+08:00","text":"我已經問完了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:29.921000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:31.402000+08:00","text":"是不是以書面提供資料……","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:32.522000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:33.643000+08:00","text":"這很簡單，可以簡答。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:34.043000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:34.764000+08:00","text":"部長簡答好不好？","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:34.764000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:35.764000+08:00","text":"謝謝召委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:35.124000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:45.667000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，首先在法規命令的部分，為了讓電子競技更加完善，是否給我們一點時間？","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T14:51:45.667000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:51:57.189000+08:00","text":"三個月內我們提出完整的辦法，我們一定會召開產官學的綜合座談，這個肯定能做到，至於明年的年度預算，目前我們已經編列3,000萬的預算來支持電競產業。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:52:01.670000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:52:03.513000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-10T14:52:05.297000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:52:08.903000+08:00","text":"請召委趕快審運動部的預算，這個才是最重要的當務之急。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T14:52:10.266000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:52:10.366000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T14:52:10.366000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T14:52:10.466000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員，謝謝部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T14:52:10.966000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-10T14:52:31.823143+08:00","text":"也跟林宜瑾委員特別報告，剛剛已經有確認議事錄，相關的預算提案基本上是6月11日中午12時截止，後續都會開始排案，委員擔心的部分，我們都會相對應的來處理，還請委員不用擔心。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T14:52:32.123143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-10T14:52:35.266000+08:00","text":"下一位請葛如鈞委員質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}