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都相關的所以在流財部分然後還有我給一個建議啦我之前曾經有去參加就是人家辦比賽 我去"},{"start":451.332,"end":467.178,"text":"去這個 到場支持啦就是所謂的六都電競爭霸賽 這個部長您知道嗎?喔 知道我們 如果我沒記錯那六 各位委員不好意思我如果我沒記錯的話 全民數應該是有提供 呃確實不太高 我這樣 我在未來我們會提高更多的補助 補助是不是 對"},{"start":468.158,"end":495.229,"text":"那其實我要講的不是補助啦,當然補助多點更好啦六都電競爭霸賽是民間自辦的,民間自辦的比賽那他當然會有去跟六都的地方政府合作那地方政府合作就是給補助啦,大概也是差不多,或提供場地這樣那其實我覺得電競的選手們,或是關心電競的朋友們更希望是運動部可以主導一個官方的賽事"},{"start":496.28,"end":521.51,"text":"就是直接比如說有運動部或者是政府哪一個單位直接來辦那當然這個辦比賽中間過程牽涉到很多很複雜的細節然後例如說有沒有辦法取得那個遊戲的授權啊或者是相關轉播什麼之類的技術問題我相信這個是蠻容易克服的就是說如果連民間單位他們都可以自辦這樣的比賽那官方來辦應該也不是困難的地方可是如果說是由官方來辦的話他會"},{"start":523.391,"end":525.415,"text":"提高整體就是大家對這個電競賽事的關注度"},{"start":528.004,"end":554.205,"text":"所以我不知道運動部有沒有可能朝我剛剛講的這個這樣建議把電競賽事當作官方比賽項目之一我想跟委員您報告那這個在未來我們覺得委員您建議的這確實希望說我們可以往這個方向走比如說像全大陸不好意思全大運有將電競納入比賽項目那我也希望說未來如果就像委員您說的如果可以由"},{"start":555.026,"end":568.542,"text":"我們運動部來舉辦這樣的賽事那也有助於電子競技運動的發展如果是這樣的話那我們也會來積極來處理好 OK 那希望您可以從這方面去規劃啦好 謝謝謝謝委員"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:42:29.189000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:42:47.326000+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，麻煩請運動部長，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-10T15:42:47.486000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:42:47.506000+08:00","text":"請部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T15:42:55.098000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:42:55.418000+08:00","text":"委員，您好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:42:56.800000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:42:57.080000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:42:57.360000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:43:08.371000+08:00","text":"今天大家都非常重視電競產業，2012年臺灣在電競產業有很高的成就，那個時候我們的隊伍是世界第一啦！","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:43:08.891000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:43:11.013000+08:00","text":"所以帶動整體的電競潮。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:43:11.574000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:43:23.662000+08:00","text":"可是很可惜，經過這十幾年的發展，現在的名次已經不如以往，所以整個產業受到的關注度還有贊助商的贊助金額都很明顯下滑了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:43:24.222000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:43:33.805000+08:00","text":"所以如果有機會的話，當然希望是不是能夠讓臺灣的電競產業可以重回過去的榮景，我相信召委排這個議題的目的就是在這邊啦！","quality":0.87},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:43:33.945000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:43:38.586000+08:00","text":"我們曾經因為電競得到驕傲，希望可以重回過去的驕傲。","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:43:40.247000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:43:48.549000+08:00","text":"我不知道部長有沒有發現，像臺北市有一個電競場館，你知道最近去那邊的越南人越來越多嗎？","quality":0.872},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:43:49.389000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:43:50.089000+08:00","text":"你知道這個現象嗎？","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:43:50.770000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:43:54.111000+08:00","text":"臺北市有一個場館是這樣的狀況，你可能不知道。","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:43:54.951000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:43:56.291000+08:00","text":"你知道為什麼嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:43:56.291000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:44:09.116000+08:00","text":"因為越南人現在在電競方面的比賽越來越厲害，他們的名次越來越強，帶動越南人對於電競產業非常關注，所以在臺北市的比賽，來看的越南人非常多。","quality":0.887},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:44:09.876000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:44:10.116000+08:00","text":"可見啦！","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:44:11.057000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:44:13.578000+08:00","text":"我們要怎麼樣讓電競產業被大家關注？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:44:13.698000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:44:20.160000+08:00","text":"就是我們的名次或者是我們的比賽成績可以往前提，這樣資源自然而然就會來了。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:44:21.681000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:44:28.183000+08:00","text":"現在有幾個問題，這可能也不是運動部可以解決的，有相關部會在場的話，也請上來說明。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:44:28.183000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:44:32.085000+08:00","text":"第一個就是有關選手池的問題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:44:32.085000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:44:35.206000+08:00","text":"我知道之前我們的政府，可能是教育部吧！","quality":0.765},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:44:35.706000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:44:54.152000+08:00","text":"有設立一些所謂的電競專班，有些學校是把它放在資料處理科，說資料處理科就是電競專班，用這個當做噱頭去招攬未來的電競人才。","quality":0.945},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:44:54.652000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:44:58.635000+08:00","text":"其實我們可以看一個數據，從104學年度到113學年度，資料處理科也就是電競專班的就讀人數是逐漸下滑的。","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:45:06.683000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:45:15.996000+08:00","text":"在104年那時候很夯所以有6萬2,567人，到113學年度大概只剩下3萬2,715人，這是人數方面下滑。","quality":0.697},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:45:16.937000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:45:39.132000+08:00","text":"更不要說有一些學校的資料處理科，實際上有些課程內容和電競也不是直接相關，學校用這個噱頭招攬人進去，但是學生並沒有辦法得到這方面的訓練，它就變成一個噱頭而已，導致我們電競選手的選手池明顯不足。","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:45:41.213000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:45:42.734000+08:00","text":"運動部部長了不了解這個狀況？","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:45:42.734000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:45:44.214000+08:00","text":"或者要請教育部回答？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:45:46.456000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:45:46.576000+08:00","text":"部長知道嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"李部長洋","start":"2026-06-10T15:45:48.745000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:45:50.346000+08:00","text":"對於實際的狀況，我確實不是這麼了解，不好意思。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:45:50.346000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:45:50.847000+08:00","text":"不太了解？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:45:52.828000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:45:59.951000+08:00","text":"既然現在運動部成立了，這些都屬於運動部要管的單項競技賽，我覺得運動部也要了解啊！","quality":0.919},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:46:00.151000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:46:02.232000+08:00","text":"因為這都和你們有關嘛！當然。","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:46:04.113000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:46:05.394000+08:00","text":"今天教育部是次長出席嗎？","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:46:06.855000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:46:07.695000+08:00","text":"次長，你知道這個情形嗎？","quality":1},{"speaker":"朱次長俊彰","start":"2026-06-10T15:46:11.467000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:46:22.522000+08:00","text":"目前在大學設的系所裡面，確實有很多學校可能會以課程的包裝或是以一些教學分組進行，不見得會和它的系名對應。不是。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:46:22.642000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:46:28.427000+08:00","text":"我是說當初設很多這樣的系是為了培養電競人才啦！","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:46:29.348000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:46:35.973000+08:00","text":"可是教育部有沒有去了解，類似這樣要培養電競人才的電競專班到底成效如何？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:46:37.034000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:46:42.198000+08:00","text":"有沒有實際為國家選才成立一個很龐大的選手池？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:46:42.338000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:46:42.639000+08:00","text":"有沒有？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:46:43.059000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:46:53.815000+08:00","text":"不然就會造成有些學生來這邊就讀之後，發現和自己想學的不一樣，或技術不到位，甚至也不想唸書，最後畢業了卻可能什麼都不會。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:46:53.935000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:46:56.459000+08:00","text":"你們是否了解這個情形？","quality":0.7},{"speaker":"朱次長俊彰","start":"2026-06-10T15:46:59.380000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:06.001000+08:00","text":"我們通常是透過職業的試探、性向的試探和評鑑來了解學校端，沒有特別針對……","quality":0.719},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:06.181000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:08.882000+08:00","text":"可見你們之前可能沒有針對這個部分進行了解。","quality":0.65},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:08.882000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:11.283000+08:00","text":"好，沒關係，請你去了解一下，好不好？","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"朱次長俊彰","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:11.543000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:12.003000+08:00","text":"好，沒問題。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:12.003000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:12.723000+08:00","text":"因為現在大家在討論電競產業嘛！","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:15.264000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:17.084000+08:00","text":"你去了解一下，第一個，為什麼人數越來越少？","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:18.105000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:23.966000+08:00","text":"第二個，具體來說，課程設計到底和培養電競人才有沒有直接的關係？","quality":0.786},{"speaker":"朱次長俊彰","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:23.966000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:24.966000+08:00","text":"好，我們向學校了解。","quality":0},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:23.966000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:30.130000+08:00","text":"還有，學生畢業之後到底有多少人投入電競產業？","quality":0.85},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:30.130000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:32.192000+08:00","text":"還是其實都沒有學以致用？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:32.573000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:36.877000+08:00","text":"因為這是我們的人才庫，請教育部了解一下，好不好？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:37.017000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:38.178000+08:00","text":"給我們一份報告。","quality":1},{"speaker":"朱次長俊彰","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:38.178000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:40.560000+08:00","text":"好，我們再給委員一份書面報告。","quality":0},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:40.560000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:40.781000+08:00","text":"謝謝教育部。","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:40.981000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:57.819000+08:00","text":"第二個，部長，剛好也是在這兩年，去年英雄聯盟世界賽剛好有一個隊伍又幫臺灣重回世界八強，這是很少數的臺灣新生代新星。","quality":0.904},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:58.661000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:47:58.741000+08:00","text":"結果呢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:47:59.341000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:48:03.767000+08:00","text":"在打出成績之後，隔年馬上就被中國大陸的賽區買走了，這是新聞報導啦！","quality":0.967},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:48:04.548000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:48:06.391000+08:00","text":"說是用1,900萬元的天價挖角。","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"葉委員元之","start":"2026-06-10T15:48:07.192000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-10T15:48:10.395000+08:00","text":"這1,900萬元到底是不是真實的數字？","qual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