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更高度的做法當然非常好那我這樣子念我只是要表示針對學貸的部分我們有救學貸款辦法針對助學的部分我們有弱勢學生的助學計畫我想要請教一下次長或高教司長"},{"start":388.65,"end":410.808,"text":"針對學生的這些訴求我們可以就這兩個辦法就可以處理好了嗎謝謝委員的指導確實在3月份在立法院跟同學談過之後回去我跟廖市長我們也就邀請了這些學生團體請他們把他們收集來意見逐一就是委爐列出來這個部分我們"},{"start":411.568,"end":425.959,"text":"都已經有很細緻的討論而且有些東西已經做了比如說第一個在調高學貸的書籍費住宿費我們也去問了現在就是在收集學校就是說各個學校大概這個平均是怎麼樣我們怎樣的把這個貸款"},{"start":427,"end":455.568,"text":"那個額度可以拉高現在已經在收集各位學校的資料這我們已經有承諾同學第二個在開學預撥的一個機制現在學費是可以預撥的但是像書籍費其他的費用是沒有辦法這部分高雅詩已經在4月就新聞給大學跟承代銀行就是全面都是幫學生都先預繳掉了學生不用再做任何預繳緊急疏困金這個部分我們現在也在調查學校過去給哪些項目我們希望把它放進來"},{"start":456.368,"end":485.149,"text":"那在生理多元實驗生理多元的那個用品這部分已經正在修法要放進去了那在住學措施放寬不動產限額這個部分我們現在也在像我們幾位委員都提到可以去參考家庭收戶連鎖德等等我們現在也在收集這個數據來判斷大概放寬到哪一些對象那打工跟宿舍門禁上次在立法院同學也有一些主張我們現在也在跟基級在跟學校"},{"start":485.489,"end":507.741,"text":"討論是不是可以更適度來尊重學生他們的一些訴求那住宿使依法來簽戶籍這塊也跟內政部做了確認是完全沒有問題那我們也有要求學校這部分要配合辦理以上報告所以都已經可以處理了對我聽起來就是全部都可以處理了我想總統的想法應該也是這樣我們面對這樣的一個少子化的時代來臨"},{"start":514.241,"end":531.126,"text":"非常嚴峻的挑戰所以每一個學生每一個孩子都是學校或者是國家珍貴的財產所以我覺得能夠幫助孩子願意讀書的孩子能夠幫助他們順利的就學畢業"},{"start":532.406,"end":559.532,"text":"踏入社会为我们的国家奉献我们都应该要全力支持所以我今天学戴三法我们的招委也有排了虽然我们有版本就是没有被排进来但是我们都是在意的是学生的诉求有没有获得回应跟改善那我听起来是有啦那我自己针对原住民的部分其实原教法的第11条我也有提法案版本我也有做预算提案"},{"start":560.132,"end":577.901,"text":"那我背景我再重新强调一次就是我们在103年原教法的修法我们有根据第11条说要逐年的来修订所以当时原教经费的比例把1.2调到了1.9可是现在又超过了12年"},{"start":579.122,"end":596.07,"text":"我們原住民的人口數也來到了2.7%又受到財化法撥給地方的影響所以在這個部分我有不斷的要求說我們應該要來討論如何把原住民教育經費要因應這些修法跟"},{"start":596.71,"end":615.138,"text":"我們的整個物價波動要去做一個調整也獲得大家的回應那我的看法是這樣子因為如果我們要去回到我們應該有的水準我是認為教育部跟園民會7比3的分擔教育部恐怕要增加8億園民會要增加4億"},{"start":618.8,"end":637.657,"text":"那到底教育部增加的八億要做什麼我的看法是這樣我希望原住民的學雜費全免大專生全免為什麼我這樣講因為兩年前賴清德總統宣布私立大專高中的這個學費的減免"},{"start":639.458,"end":653.491,"text":"一年是3.5萬一個學年然後呢經濟弱勢的學生又可以加碼1.5萬也就是變成5萬可是事實上我有不斷的訴求原住民的學生"},{"start":654.412,"end":678.245,"text":"他是只能折一所以呢他还是维持他原来的原住民的这个补助而且原住民的弱势学生也是只能折一不能重复为什么我特别这样讲古有名训不患寡患不均明明原住民的大学生跟一般的大学生出债学率是相差38.5%"},{"start":681.007,"end":695.402,"text":"我們先不細究是什麼造成但是就是有這麼大的落差的原住民學生是離開大學的他讀不下去的所以這個部分我們本來是要米平啊結果呢那個政策一上來哇"},{"start":696.926,"end":716.702,"text":"又把那個gap又拉大那我們還來不及觀察它未來造成的效應是什麼但是我一直強調我們應該就要來做這個部分不曉得次長您的看法如何謝謝委員提醒確實委員先前有提醒我們在要注意這一塊就是說在弱勢的學生之"},{"start":717.242,"end":734.367,"text":"之外跟原住民之間的補助不要是互相互賜的有沒有可能互相搭配來協助經濟弱勢的原住民學生這塊多給他一些照顧所以高雄市也有在做一些評估看看是不是在我們目前的原民補助是比較屬於齊頭市的"},{"start":736.107,"end":754.205,"text":"那針對經濟弱勢這邊是不是可以做個協助所以我想這個部分要增加就是我個人是強調啦就是原住民學生學雜費就全免因為你本來原教經費就要增加我希望這一塊是必須要做那另外就是關鍵人才的培育"},{"start":755.246,"end":777.424,"text":"這個部分我非常的高興我講給許多人聽他們也很期待十年之後應該會看到不一樣的一個原住民的教育高教的狀況所以這個部分我還是強烈的訴求那最後一個問題就是我很關心我們原住民學生的問題那我有一種學生要講給次長聽就是大五生"},{"start":778.499,"end":798.121,"text":"原住民呢自從要去修所謂的教育學程他是完全不可能四年畢業還有雙修的又加上很多的原住民學生還要加足語認證種種的因素我要講的是說如果他是因為優秀的學生"},{"start":799.458,"end":823.97,"text":"結果遇到被迫要有第五年我希望這個大五的部分學雜費的減免要繼續的比照前四年可以嗎好謝謝委員這個提醒我想我們會來瞭解這個狀況只要學生是一個正常學習他願意去學政府就應該給他支持那我跟那個次長說其實這個議題在昨天的校正委員會有被提出來是"},{"start":825.37,"end":852.749,"text":"那没有得到好的答案所以我今天特别的提出来提高学生的毕业率啊是是没错不能够去惩罚优秀的学生啊对没错而且他是有条件的他不是所有的是好不好好我希望赶快来研议可以吗没问题这点我们来支持这样的同学那另外就是知识中心的部分我也希望放在原教经费增加里面我希望它变成一个常态性的"},{"start":853.69,"end":861.4,"text":"目前很少族群有完成知識中心知識族群的知識而且我認為"},{"start":862.99,"end":890.837,"text":"原住民的這個各族群的知識你應該要搭配課程教材啊這兩個不能脫鉤啊因為原住民的知識是在跟學生跟我們的時間在賽跑所以這個部分我希望把它變成一個常態性的計畫也能夠納入到我們的原住民教育的中長程計畫讓它穩定的完成所有族群它的知識的採集以及轉化為課程教材"},{"start":891.797,"end":914.098,"text":"這個是我們必然要走的路而且非常的辛苦好不好好我們這個發展計劃因為有跟考選部原民會合作那這個自治中心我如果一下沒做原民會有在處理我們會跟他合作好那我很高興今天也有排那個午餐但是午餐22個縣市已經全免了但是我只有一個以前遺留下來的問題"},{"start":915.748,"end":944.52,"text":"可能次長知道或不知道很多學校的老師常年針對那些付不出學雜費 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Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:46:08.788000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:46:10.848000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝署長。謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"彭署長富源","start":"2026-06-11T11:46:11.249000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:46:41.175000+08:00","text":"關於召委所提到的族語專任教師或是教學支援老師這兩類教師，其實我們對他的福利待遇非常重視，透過跟委員一直以來的互動，相關福利或是應該給予的協助、照顧，我覺得應該要整包來處理，我們想說在兩個禮拜內到委員辦公室，看看在新學年前我們能不能為這類老師多做什麼，特別跟委員約時間，謝謝委員。","quality":0.845},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:46:41.175000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:46:52.760000+08:00","text":"非常感謝，謝謝次長、署長把我們的聲音聽進去，我相信透過廣播系統，應該很多老師也都會非常感謝。","quality":0.976},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:46:53+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:47:20.510000+08:00","text":"我接下來要談的是，在3月19號的時候，我以教政小組召集人的身分參與教育部跟大專學生團體代表辦的一個大學法修法的討論，在這樣的討論當中，我們就聽到了很多學生團體對於大學法修法的看法跟訴求。","quality":0.612},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai 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Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:51:44.370000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:52:35.193000+08:00","text":"我自己針對原住民的部分，其實原教法的第十一條我也有提法案版本，我也有做預算提案，背景的部分我再重新強調一次，在103年原教法的修法，我們有根據第十一條說要逐年的來修訂，所以當時原教經費的比例把1.2調到了1.9，可是現在又超過了12年，我們原住民的人口數也來到了2.7%，又受到財劃法撥給地方的影響，所以在這個部分，我有不斷地要求我們應該要來討論原住民教育經費要因應這些修法跟整個物價波動做一個調整，也獲得大家的回應。","quality":0.843},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:52:35.333000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:52:54.323000+08:00","text":"我的看法是這樣子，如果我們要回到我們應該有的水準，我是認為教育部跟原民會7比3的分擔，教育部恐怕要增加8億，原民會要增加4億，到底教育部增加了8億要做什麼？","quality":0.955},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:52:54.323000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:53:02.831000+08:00","text":"我的看法是這樣，我希望原住民的學雜費全免，大專生全免，為什麼我這樣講？","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:53:02.831000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:53:21.608000+08:00","text":"因為兩年前賴清德總統宣布私立大專高中的學費減免，一個學年是3.5萬，然後經濟弱勢的學生又可以加碼1.5萬，也就是變成5萬。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:53:21.608000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:53:40.319000+08:00","text":"可是次長，我有不斷地訴求，因為原住民的學生只能擇一，所以他還是維持他原來原住民的補助，而且原住民的弱勢學生也是只能擇一、不能重複，為什麼我特別這樣講？","quality":0.706},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:53:41.460000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:54:07.382000+08:00","text":"古有明訓，不患寡而患不均，明明原住民的大學生跟一般大學生的粗在學率是相差38.5%，我們先不細究是什麼造成的，但就是有這麼大的落差的原住民學生是離開大學的，他讀不下去了，這個部分我們本來是要弭平，結果那個政策一上來，哇！","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:54:08.926000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:54:21.396000+08:00","text":"又把那個gap拉大，我們還來不及觀察他未來造成的效應是什麼，但是我一直強調，我們應該要來做這個部分，不曉得次長的看法如何？","quality":0.982},{"speaker":"朱次長俊彰","start":"2026-06-11T11:54:22.217000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:54:50.069000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員提醒，確實委員先前有提醒我們要注意這一塊，就是弱勢學生跟原住民之間的補助不要互斥，有沒有可能互相搭配，來協助經濟弱勢的原住民學生，多給他一些照顧，所以高教司有在做一些評估，目前的原民補助是比較屬於齊頭式的，針對經濟弱勢這邊是不是可以做個協助，我們來評估。","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:54:50.830000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:55:03.702000+08:00","text":"所以我想這個部分要增加，我個人強調原住民學生學雜費就全免，因為你本來原教經費就要增加，我希望這一塊是必須要做。","quality":1},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:55:04.423000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:55:19.036000+08:00","text":"另外就是關鍵人才的培育，這個部分我非常的高興，我講給許多人聽，他們也很期待十年之後，應該會看到不一樣的原住民高教狀況，所以這個部分我還是要強烈的訴求。","quality":0.986},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:55:20.076000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:56:00.462000+08:00","text":"召委，最後一個問題，我很關心我們原住民學生的問題，我有一種學生要講給次長聽，就是大五生，原住民自從要去修所謂的教育學程，他是完全不可能四年畢業，還有雙休的，又加上很多的原住民學生還要加族語認證等種種的因素，我要講的是，如果他是優秀的學生結果被迫要有第五年，我希望大五的學雜費減免部分要繼續比照前四年，可以嗎？","quality":0.95},{"speaker":"朱次長俊彰","start":"2026-06-11T11:56:00.762000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:56:09.226000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員提醒，我們會來了解這個狀況，只要學生是正常學習，他願意去學，政府就應該給他支持。","quality":0.974},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:56:09.326000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:56:27.858000+08:00","text":"那我跟次長說，其實這個議題在昨天的教政委員會有被提出來，但沒有得到好的答案，所以我今天特別的提出來，要提高學生的畢業率，不能夠懲罰優秀的學生啊！","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"朱次長俊彰","start":"2026-06-11T11:56:27.858000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-11T11:56:29.179000+08:00","text":"對，沒錯。","quality":0},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:56:29.179000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:56:32.621000+08:00","text":"而且他是有條件的，他不是所有的，好不好？","quality":0.941},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:56:32.861000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:56:34.322000+08:00","text":"我希望趕快來研議，可以嗎？","quality":0.636},{"speaker":"朱次長俊彰","start":"2026-06-11T11:56:35.503000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:56:36.684000+08:00","text":"沒問題，這點我們來支持這樣的同學。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:56:37.484000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:57:28.262000+08:00","text":"另外是知識中心的部分，我也希望放在原教經費增加裡面，我希望它變成一個常態性的，目前很少族群有完成知識中心，知識族群的知識，而且我認為原住民各族群的知識應該要搭配課程教材，這兩個不能脫鉤，因為原住民的知識是在跟時間賽跑，我希望這個部分變成一個常態性的計畫，也能夠納入我們原住民教育的中長程計畫，讓他穩定的完成所有族群知識的採集以及轉化為課程教材，這個是我們必然要走的路，而且非常的辛苦，好不好？","quality":0.94},{"speaker":"朱次長俊彰","start":"2026-06-11T11:57:29.323000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:57:37.110000+08:00","text":"是，這個發展計畫因為也有跟考選部、原民會合作，關於這個知識中心，如果我的印象沒錯，原民會有在處理，我們會跟他合作。","quality":0.76},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:57:38.611000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:58:16.520000+08:00","text":"我很高興今天也有排午餐法案，但是午餐22個縣市已經全免了，但是我只有一個以前遺留下來的問題，可能次長知道或不知道，很多學校的老師長年面對那些付不出學雜費、午餐費、學校代收代辦費變呆帳，最後都變成老師、導師直接吸收，雖然我們未來午餐會全免，但還是有學雜費、代收代辦費的呆帳，我希望去研議一個合理、可以避免轉嫁給第一線導師的精進做法，可以嗎？","quality":0.974},{"speaker":"朱次長俊彰","start":"2026-06-11T11:58:18.325000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:58:26.676000+08:00","text":"謝謝，因為我們過去針對弱勢學生是有20億的補助，所以我們來了解一下狀況是怎樣，不要造成老師的負擔。","quality":0.953},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:58:26.676000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-11T11:58:45.614000+08:00","text":"不要造成學校或者是老師的負擔，我們的老師已經很珍貴了，我們要想方設法回復我們老師的尊嚴，提升他們的待遇，改善他們的環境，讓我們的老師能夠安心的培育我們國家棟樑，好不好？","quality":0.805},{"speaker":"朱次長俊彰","start":"2026-06-11T11:58:46.114000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-11T11:58:48.971143+08:00","text":"好，沒問題，謝謝委員指導。","quality":0.1},{"speaker":"伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe委員","start":"2026-06-11T11:58:49.271143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-11T11:58:53.271143+08:00","text":"謝謝次長、謝謝署長、謝謝召委主席。","quality":0.214},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-11T11:58:53.571143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-11T11:58:56.142571+08:00","text":"謝謝伍召委、謝謝次長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-11T11:58:56.442571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-11T11:58:58.728286+08:00","text":"下一位葉元之委員。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}