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謝謝"},{"start":676.578,"end":676.599,"text":"好"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:49:21.029000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:49:21.529000+08:00","text":"感謝召委，我請法務部與司法院。","quality":0.615},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-17T11:49:21.649000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:49:21.749000+08:00","text":"請馮次長和吳廳長。","quality":0.625},{"speaker":"馮次長成","start":"2026-06-17T11:49:21.749000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-17T11:49:41.543000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"吳廳長祚丞","start":"2026-06-17T11:49:41.543000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:49:41.743000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:49:43.544000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:49:45.004000+08:00","text":"我先請教廳長好了。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:49:45.524000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:49:55.548000+08:00","text":"廳長，今天質詢之前，我曾特別詢問法務部的相關意見，認為比較屬於司法院的相關業務，那麼我用簡報簡單請教一下。","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:50:01.037000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:50:17.948000+08:00","text":"在韓國，針對重大案件嫌犯，或者是針對重大暴力、性侵，以及違反國家安全、公共利益案件，會將重大案件嫌犯的照片或資訊公開。","quality":0.788},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:50:19.792000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:50:37.187000+08:00","text":"在日本也有公開的手配制度，也就是說，如果嫌犯嚴重違反公共利益，可能是暴力案、可能造成公共安全重大危害、性侵，或者以上皆是的狀況，他們會公開相關資訊。","quality":0.97},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:50:40.930000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:50:59.155000+08:00","text":"在臺灣，當然我們是民主國家，有無罪推定原則，但是無罪推定不能夠無限上綱到已經有明顯事證會造成重大公共利益危害的時候，還是不揭露相關訊息，導致一再有被害者出現。","quality":0.945},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:50:59.235000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:51:06.597000+08:00","text":"我就不再重述之前各個不同的案例，因為每一個案例其實都是椎心之痛。","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:51:07.517000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:51:16.477000+08:00","text":"我就拿臺南這個狀況來說，其實這個狀況已經接近現行犯，因為是被見義勇為者第一時間制止。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:51:18.509000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:51:22.611000+08:00","text":"但後來我們看到這個新聞畫面，請問到底誰是嫌犯？","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:51:23.051000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:51:24.332000+08:00","text":"根本無法標示清楚。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:51:25.172000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:51:25.852000+08:00","text":"為什麼沒有辦法標示清楚？","quality":0.727},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:51:26.212000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:51:43.540000+08:00","text":"因為嫌犯被馬賽克、被嚴重打碼，不足以識別他的面容，反倒是旁邊的刑警完全被揭示在民眾面前，到時候還會被懷疑到底誰才是犯案者，其實對辦案人員來說是非常不公平的。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:51:44.800000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:51:46.741000+08:00","text":"對社區來說也是很不安全的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:51:47.081000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:51:52.325000+08:00","text":"因為他在被逮捕之前、被循線抓到之前可能不斷再犯。","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:51:53.026000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:08.939000+08:00","text":"由於我們沒有相關警示方式，導致這些性侵犯等重大暴力犯、殺人犯或連續殺人犯能夠在各個地方繼續竄逃，我認為這會嚴重影響公共安全。","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:09.480000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:18.848000+08:00","text":"也就是說，在無罪推定原則之下和公共利益與公共安全之上必須有平衡點。","quality":0.935},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:20.289000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:45.324000+08:00","text":"韓國有針對特定重大犯罪嫌疑人個人信息公開的法案，根據這項公開法案，在決定公開辦案訊息的30天之內，有關部門可以公布偵查部門拍攝的嫌疑人大頭照，如果有必要，甚至可以主動揭示、給媒體，這就是公共利益、公共安全跟無罪推論之間的平衡點。","quality":0.922},{"speaker":"陳委員冠廷","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:45.324000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:49.407000+08:00","text":"所以我想請教司法院，你們的意見是什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳廳長祚丞","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:49.787000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:50.268000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員。","quality":1},{"speaker":"吳廳長祚丞","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:50.828000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:58.854000+08:00","text":"首先，這個議題絕對是值得討論的司法行政議題，這點我先確認。","quality":0.962},{"speaker":"吳廳長祚丞","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:59.154000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:12.504000+08:00","text":"第二，其實各個法制先進國家有不同規範，這也可以證明這個議題沒有絕對行或不行，一定有要考量的點。","quality":0.977},{"speaker":"吳廳長祚丞","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:12.724000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:30.856000+08:00","text":"站在司法院的角度，司法院要負責的是起訴以後的審理階段，因為在偵查階段，檢察官有其基於偵查不公開或偵查必要性的相關考慮，司法院可能比較沒有辦法置喙、表示意見。","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"吳廳長祚丞","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:37.681000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:39.943000+08:00","text":"第一件就是剛剛委員提到的無罪推定。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"吳廳長祚丞","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:40.423000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:45.547000+08:00","text":"當然無罪推定絕對不是無限上綱，這點我們也肯認。","quality":0.952},{"speaker":"吳廳長祚丞","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:45.547000+08:00","gues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