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盤點有關的法律差不多有128個法律上那我們希望"},{"start":213.689,"end":234.962,"text":"各部會趕快我們也在催各部會九月三十號回復的話我們就馬上來做協調來研議來報行政院來確定一半八十倍我們現在不是說那些東西這些有一個清單嗎是啊是啊今天也有一個抄案的清單你知道我的意思嗎我知道那所以你現在已經準備好了是啊128種已經在盤點好我們相信在九月三十號"},{"start":240.771,"end":266.606,"text":"之前我們回覆之後我們很快的來做一些協調還有政策的演繹我們也報行政院趕快來這個確認的參考對啦因為這個是跨黨派的附帶決議的要求所以是不是主委你目前你有手上的你們有擬定出來的相關的執法的清單是不是可以先給本辦清單可以OK好那就麻煩主委再加油謝謝"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:50:55+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-17T11:50:56+08:00","text":"謝謝主席，有請原民會曾主委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-17T11:50:56+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-17T11:50:57+08:00","text":"麻煩曾主委。","quality":0},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:50:57+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-17T11:50:58+08:00","text":"委員好！","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:50:58+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-17T11:50:59+08:00","text":"主委好！","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:50:58.021000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:51:31.559000+08:00","text":"我今天最主要是來向您請教到底西拉雅什麼時候能核定，經過瞭解，西拉雅族現在民族會議已經開過好幾次，本席也有參加其中一場，基本上這個民族成員的身分要件已經確認得差不多，就是不知道什麼時候會被行政院核定。","quality":0.806},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:51:32.440000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:01.503000+08:00","text":"主委去年參加吉貝耍夜祭的時候，你說2026年會迎接原住民族第17族西拉雅族的加入，結果今年你參加原住民博物館動土典禮的時候，據大武壠族的族人說，你又說明年，就是2027年才有辦法有第17族的加入，主委，你這樣翻來覆去，我直接問你，到底是遇到什麼問題？","quality":0.893},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:02.404000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:03.724000+08:00","text":"什麼時候才能真正核定？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:05.185000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:07.886000+08:00","text":"為什麼你本來說今年，現在又說明年？","quality":1},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:09.627000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:25.346000+08:00","text":"我跟委員報告，西拉雅族核定的申請案，我們在5月20日就已經送院裡面，很快地會依法來刊登公告之後，個人的身分就可以馬上辦理登記，我講的是西拉雅。","quality":0.839},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:26.226000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:26.606000+08:00","text":"對，西拉雅。","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:26.986000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:31.827000+08:00","text":"西拉雅的部分，所以應該是這一陣子，很快，應該……","quality":0.684},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:32.768000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:34.548000+08:00","text":"行政院很快就會核定公告？","quality":0.545},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:35.468000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:40.250000+08:00","text":"對，我們就可以來受理西拉雅的身分登記了。是。","quality":0.895},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:40.670000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:42.450000+08:00","text":"現在就在等行政院的核定。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:43.210000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:44.030000+08:00","text":"對，它什麼時候要核定？","quality":0.667},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:45.091000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:45.091000+08:00","text":"應該是……","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:45.151000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:45.431000+08:00","text":"你們要催它啊！","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:47.145000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:54.147000+08:00","text":"我已經催了，也拜託，也跟政委報告，也跟院長報告，會啦！","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:54.567000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:52:55.987000+08:00","text":"會佷快，不會很久。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:52:58.828000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:04.990000+08:00","text":"為什麼你會在原住民博物館動土的時候說2027會迎接第17族的來臨？","quality":0.808},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:04.990000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:11.052000+08:00","text":"因為你說今年行政院會核定，對不對？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:11.152000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:11.672000+08:00","text":"對，這可能是單純的口誤啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:11.672000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:14.009000+08:00","text":"那時候……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:14.009000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:16.346000+08:00","text":"口誤喔？","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:16.346000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:21.811000+08:00","text":"所以還是今年，就是2026年會迎接第17族西拉雅族？","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:21.811000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:25.133000+08:00","text":"對，西拉雅會很快啦！好。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:25.133000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:43.126000+08:00","text":"另外，我們當初在平埔原住民族群身分法審議的時候有個附帶決議，要求立法院通過這個法令6個月內你要提出修法跟立法的清單，就是很多的子法嘛！","quality":0.887},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:43.406000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:44.166000+08:00","text":"相關的子法。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:45.006000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:53:55.229000+08:00","text":"去年10月三讀通過，現在6月了，所以已經超過半年了，可是目前都沒有看到任何的東西啊！","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:53:56.389000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:54:08.492000+08:00","text":"我們一直催促你們，你們才給我們一紙回復說今年5月19日你有召集各部會來研商子法修訂的事宜，主委，你這樣會不會太離譜？","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:54:08.492000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-17T11:54:09.492000+08:00","text":"不會啦！","quality":0},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:54:09.492000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-17T11:54:10.492000+08:00","text":"我們現在……","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:54:08.673000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:54:11.175000+08:00","text":"在6個月內就要有修訂的子法清單，你到5月19日才召集大家來討論子法修訂的事宜。","quality":0.788},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:54:11.235000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:54:36.734000+08:00","text":"那是盤點，現在我們盤點有關的法律差不多有128個，我們希望各部會趕快，我們也在催各部會，9月30日回復的話，我們就馬上來協調、研議，報行政院來確定，那個有128個耶！","quality":0.846},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:54:39.056000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:54:42.438000+08:00","text":"我們現在不是在說那些東西，你至少要有一個清單嘛！是。","quality":0.739},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:54:44.079000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:54:46.540000+08:00","text":"至少要有一個草案的清單，你知道我的意思嗎？","quality":0.789},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:54:46.540000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:54:47.081000+08:00","text":"我知道。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:54:48.081000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:54:49.042000+08:00","text":"所以你現在已經準備好了？","quality":1},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:54:49.062000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:55:05.517000+08:00","text":"是，128個我已經盤點好，我們相信在9月30日之前，在他們回復之後我們很快地來做一些協調還有政策的研議，我們會報行政院，趕快來做確認的參考，好不好？對啦！","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:55:05.677000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:55:17.644000+08:00","text":"因為這個是跨黨派附帶決議的要求，所以主委目前手上有的，你們擬定出來相關的子法清單是不是可以先給本辦？","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:55:17.644000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:55:18.064000+08:00","text":"清單可以。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林委員宜瑾","start":"2026-06-17T11:55:18.885000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-06-17T11:55:21.606000+08:00","text":"好，那就麻煩主委，再加油，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"曾主任委員智勇","start":"2026-06-17T11:55:22.106000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-17T11:55:23.106000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-06-17T11:55:23.406000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-06-17T11:55:26.834571+08:00","text":"下一位請陳瑩委員發言質詢。","quality":0}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}