{"error":false,"id":["170063"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":170063,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170063","日期":"2026-06-18","會議資料":{"會議代碼":"委員會-11-5-23-19","會議代碼:str":"第11屆第5會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議","屆":11,"會期":5,"會次":19,"臨時會會次":null,"種類":"委員會","委員會代碼":[23],"委員會代碼:str":["交通委員會"],"標題":"第11屆第5會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議"},"影片種類":"Clip","開始時間":"2026-06-18T09:38:35+08:00","結束時間":"2026-06-18T09:47:33+08:00","影片長度":"00:08:58","支援功能":["ai-transcript"],"video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ac5d42f4fd98837a89e0d0ef307ed7df74651e55be1bd8f35dfbff722aff1dc57b10ae65e3cca9285ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"陳雪生","委員發言時間":"09:38:35 - 09:47:33","會議時間":"2026-06-18T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第5會期交通委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金－鐵道發展基金分預算。\n二、審查115年度中央政府總預算案附屬單位預算非營業部分關於交通部主管交通作業基金－臺鐵局撥入資產及債務管理基金分預算。【一、本日會議僅進行詢答；二、兩基金預算提案截止收件時間為6月18日下午4時】\n【6月17日及18日二天一次會】）","transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":0.45284375,"end":1.98846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":2.56221875,"end":2.57909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":2.57909375,"end":3.03471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":3.03471875,"end":3.5578437500000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":9.278468750000002,"end":11.809718750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":9.548468750000001,"end":9.750968750000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":11.978468750000001,"end":12.029093750000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":12.19784375,"end":16.72034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":17.344718750000002,"end":18.50909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":18.981593750000002,"end":22.67721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":22.980968750000002,"end":24.60096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":25.27596875,"end":27.58784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":28.54971875,"end":30.33846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":31.13159375,"end":39.90659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":40.27784375,"end":43.619093750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":43.619093750000005,"end":43.95659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":43.97346875,"end":43.99034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":44.73284375,"end":49.13721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":49.44096875,"end":50.52096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":50.976593750000006,"end":52.96784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":52.96784375,"end":54.03096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":54.03096875,"end":55.853468750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":54.50346875,"end":54.672218750000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":57.220343750000005,"end":61.28721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":61.641593750000006,"end":61.860968750000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":62.299718750000004,"end":68.08784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":68.98221875,"end":71.63159375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":71.71596875,"end":73.26846875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":73.16721875,"end":74.11221875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":75.37784375000001,"end":76.20471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":77.52096875000001,"end":78.46596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":78.87096875,"end":81.16596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":82.26284375,"end":83.46096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":83.96721875,"end":84.03471875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":84.37221875,"end":85.21596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":87.03846875,"end":88.03409375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":88.23659375000001,"end":89.18159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":89.43471875,"end":96.48846875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":95.77971875,"end":97.26471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":97.88909375,"end":99.42471875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":100.08284375000001,"end":102.64784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_01","start":101.12909375000001,"end":101.26409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":103.12034375,"end":104.92596875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":105.21284375,"end":113.02596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":113.51534375000001,"end":116.28284375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":116.41784375,"end":120.78846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":121.68284375,"end":121.90221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":123.06659375000001,"end":123.97784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":125.49659375,"end":126.64409375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":127.69034375000001,"end":129.49596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":130.49159375000002,"end":134.57534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":135.38534375,"end":137.56221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":138.25409375,"end":143.83971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":144.34596875,"end":149.44221875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":149.62784375,"end":150.80909375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":151.55159375000002,"end":153.47534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":153.47534375,"end":157.03596875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":153.49221875,"end":153.76221875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":157.32284375,"end":157.98096875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":158.43659375000001,"end":158.82471875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":158.95971875,"end":160.90034375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":160.78221875,"end":161.08596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":162.75659375,"end":163.61721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":164.86596875,"end":166.68846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":166.84034375000002,"end":167.53221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":167.61659375000002,"end":169.37159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":169.57409375,"end":171.51471875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":172.35846875000001,"end":173.48909375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":173.96159375000002,"end":175.17659375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":175.85159375,"end":176.76284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":177.72471875000002,"end":180.13784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":182.63534375,"end":185.16659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":186.39846875,"end":189.65534375000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":190.81971875000002,"end":193.35096875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":194.16096875000002,"end":195.83159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":196.92846875,"end":199.03784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":199.57784375,"end":200.64096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":201.38346875000002,"end":204.37034375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":204.84284375000001,"end":206.47971875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":207.15471875,"end":208.25159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":208.97721875000002,"end":210.05721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":211.08659375000002,"end":212.20034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":212.70659375000002,"end":213.51659375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":214.66409375,"end":216.03096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":216.58784375000002,"end":218.15721875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":218.91659375,"end":223.37159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":223.99596875,"end":226.69596875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":227.48909375000002,"end":228.70409375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":229.34534375,"end":230.40846875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":231.25221875000003,"end":232.85534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":233.34471875000003,"end":235.28534375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":235.79159375,"end":236.85471875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":238.33971875,"end":239.57159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":240.44909375,"end":241.46159375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":242.60909375000003,"end":245.47784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":246.08534375000002,"end":248.66721875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":248.93721875000003,"end":250.35471875000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":251.06346875000003,"end":252.36284375000002},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":253.18971875000003,"end":255.88971875000001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":257.17221875,"end":258.94409375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":260.05784375,"end":263.16284375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":263.53409375,"end":264.95159375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":265.30596875000003,"end":266.84159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":267.11159375,"end":267.29721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":267.58409375,"end":268.66409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":269.06909375000004,"end":270.21659375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":271.53284375000004,"end":272.41034375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":273.86159375,"end":275.70096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":276.34221875000003,"end":279.14346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":279.73409375,"end":284.30721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":284.79659375,"end":286.21409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":288.00284375,"end":290.58471875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":291.56346875,"end":295.34346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":296.06909375000004,"end":299.27534375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":299.73096875000005,"end":301.36784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":301.85721875,"end":303.10596875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":304.00034375,"end":305.13096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":305.83971875000003,"end":308.11784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":309.26534375,"end":310.75034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":310.88534375,"end":312.99471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":313.23096875000005,"end":313.39971875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":313.95659375,"end":316.08284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":316.94346875,"end":320.77409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":321.48284375000003,"end":323.18721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":325.19534375,"end":328.31721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":329.00909375000003,"end":330.81471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":331.42221875,"end":332.70471875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":333.91971875,"end":334.72971875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":335.01659375,"end":336.18096875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":336.63659375000003,"end":337.68284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":338.50971875000005,"end":339.55596875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":340.09596875,"end":342.57659375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":343.57221875000005,"end":345.52971875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":346.71096875,"end":348.24659375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":348.78659375,"end":353.14034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":353.64659375,"end":356.02596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":356.17784375,"end":356.76846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":358.03409375,"end":359.82284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":360.63284375,"end":363.41721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":363.97409375,"end":366.70784375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":367.80471875,"end":369.50909375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":370.18409375000005,"end":372.59721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":373.42409375,"end":378.03096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":379.34721875,"end":380.30909375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":381.69284375,"end":383.12721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":384.69659375000003,"end":388.05471875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":389.08409375,"end":389.96159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":391.48034375000003,"end":401.53784375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":402.09471875,"end":412.96221875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":410.22846875000005,"end":413.01284375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":413.38409375000003,"end":415.24034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":416.01659375,"end":416.08409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":416.08409375,"end":418.19346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":419.18909375000004,"end":428.50409375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":422.00721875000005,"end":423.25596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":427.98096875000005,"end":429.06096875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":429.82034375,"end":431.08596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":431.87909375000004,"end":433.38096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":435.11909375000005,"end":435.82784375000006},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":436.30034375,"end":438.34221875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":439.47284375000004,"end":439.89471875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":441.00846875,"end":443.35409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":444.58596875,"end":446.32409375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":447.28596875000005,"end":449.41221875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":450.05346875000004,"end":451.40346875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":452.16284375000004,"end":452.60159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":453.85034375000004,"end":455.09909375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":455.89221875000004,"end":458.01846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":458.60909375000006,"end":460.65096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":461.54534375000003,"end":463.21596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":464.43096875000003,"end":466.45596875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":466.97909375,"end":469.25721875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":469.45971875000004,"end":469.74659375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":470.38784375000006,"end":472.63221875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":473.02034375000005,"end":474.40409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":476.05784375,"end":478.38659375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":478.55534375,"end":480.95159375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":481.57596875,"end":483.98909375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":484.95096875,"end":486.01409375000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":486.33471875000004,"end":487.39784375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":488.37659375000004,"end":489.64221875000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":491.43096875000003,"end":492.66284375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":493.40534375000004,"end":494.14784375000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":494.62034375,"end":495.53159375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":496.74659375000005,"end":497.06721875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":497.89409375,"end":498.73784375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":499.41284375000004,"end":499.63221875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":500.10471875,"end":501.03284375000004},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":502.29846875000004,"end":503.64846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":503.71596875000006,"end":507.34409375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":507.41159375,"end":509.31846875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":509.52096875,"end":510.02721875000003},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":510.12846875,"end":511.41096875000005},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":512.44034375,"end":512.7609687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":513.26721875,"end":515.41034375},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":516.1528437500001,"end":517.4184687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":518.09346875,"end":521.0972187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":521.41784375,"end":523.0378437500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":523.3078437500001,"end":524.8940937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":525.6028437500001,"end":527.5434687500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":528.35346875,"end":533.51721875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":533.51721875,"end":533.8547187500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","start":533.8547187500001,"end":536.79096875},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_02","start":534.4453437500001,"end":535.9640937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":535.9640937500001,"end":536.7065937500001},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_03","start":537.0947187500001,"end":538.19159375}],"whisperx":[{"start":0.478,"end":9.903,"text":"市長那個鐵路產業研發檢測發展計畫有補助督促產業、學界、研究機構去研發目前進度落後有什麼原因?"},{"start":29.559,"end":55.438,"text":"目前進度上應該執行還好剛剛主要是幾個包括我們的技術一些的研發這些我們都持續在推動我想這部分應該沒有什麼大問題你是不是國內因為鐵道檢測環境跟法規他在初創的階段對所以有很多必須要去那你現在執行進度是零"},{"start":58.71,"end":84.616,"text":"其實事實上有在執行,應該是我們計價的問題我們合約的計價的問題,但是這個工作現在進行是順利的進度是零,你怎麼順利?應該是預算執行的問題你沒有進度啊,你說明一下進度是零啊,沒有進度啊,你怎麼說工作順利?是非常不順利啊拿麥克風來"},{"start":88.349,"end":99.239,"text":"因為之前上一年度還沒有執行完,所以我們先用上一年度的先把它處理上一年度的?那你今年度預算就不要變了?"},{"start":100.109,"end":128.615,"text":"是有變啦你上年度還沒執行完啊你前年度執行完畢了吧那個各位報告因為去年度的預算沒有完全執行完所以我們今年先執行上年度的剩餘預算但是這個工作目前已經全面展開所以這個今年度的預算還是甘請委員給我們支持好你請回高雄高雄屏東站區段徵收"},{"start":130.506,"end":150.538,"text":"他配合高鐵延伸屏東的計畫,他採用高雄的模式,高雄什麼模式?所謂高雄方案是指說高鐵未來延伸到屏東的路線經由高雄車站,也就是現在的台鐵高雄火車站之後再延伸到屏東"},{"start":152.184,"end":179.533,"text":"這個計畫還在持續的進行嗎現在在進行綜合規劃跟環評作業當中屏東吼是的不是叫停沒有叫停沒有好那楊局長你請回沒關係是先回市長今天我問你兩個問題因為部長沒有來剛才早上那個誰孟凱偉講到淡江大橋我上次在總質詢提到馬祖大橋"},{"start":182.777,"end":205.69,"text":"你們交通部很奇怪,一直來文啊說縣政府要負擔比例多少你看縣政府能夠負擔比例多少前面的方案沒有這個問題啊綜合規劃裡面一直沒有這個問題啊那最近呢反正踢皮球推來推去推來推去推得差不多了來講錢的問題了現在跟錢什麼關係啊我跟你講個笑話"},{"start":211.441,"end":236.736,"text":"財化法修了以後金門多了一百多億澎湖多了四五十億我們離島有三個金門、馬祖、澎湖金門多一百多億我還跟陳玉珍委員講你馬上當縣長了你這樣吵吵鬧鬧你將來沒錢用他說我多了一百多億我酒廠再加油一下我錢夠用了所以他也不怕你誰"},{"start":240.649,"end":269.769,"text":"那澎湖養委員是尊稱我為大哥啦所以馬祖基的錢就多一點也沒關係問題他這次分了不少錢所以他們也沒吵那我們是什麼財發法少了一千萬少了一千萬財政部部長還滿佛心的補了一千萬給我那就大平嘛對不對大平那我沒有多一個錢啊好現在中央來一個怪招"},{"start":271.721,"end":295.164,"text":"這什麼招勒所有的一般補助款我不給你了你從新的財務法多出來的錢你去自己模補去運用那我沒有多出來的錢那我那邊主要靠的是交通部所以我一直在交通委員會也就是這個原因"},{"start":296.107,"end":322.876,"text":"那你交通部所有的錢都你們自己去檢討財化法裡面的錢給你們了財化法沒有給我錢啊那所以這怎麼辦呢我也跟部長在這邊講了很多次那你這個馬祖大橋講了差不多八九年七八年了你預算到底是編還是不編啊是不是我三點你們預算交通部預算三點的四十八億多啦我們就號稱五十億好了齁"},{"start":325.233,"end":345.354,"text":"那你說我這個錢要把你們三五十億還是不三五十億你這樣一點誠意都沒有啊然後那個陳次長說他主持一個會議一推又推來了一推二五六說縣政府綜合計畫裡面沒有講清楚沒有寫清楚"},{"start":346.755,"end":371.151,"text":"那我就提議啦,把縣長、議長這些相關人員通通抓到你交通部來好不好你說什麼就什麼,你說怎樣就怎樣,可以了吧我們也是待執行而已,這個大橋主要的單位還是你們那現在我們是待執行,因為比較偏遠那你在離島、偏一鄉,偏一鄉也照顧了,離島也照顧了"},{"start":374.083,"end":386.661,"text":"馬祖還少了一千萬,你這樣撥不進去,這個公平嗎?那這個錢到底,我今年不講了,明年你們預算,你們什麼態度?"},{"start":391.513,"end":416.643,"text":"我想跟委員報告,一個計畫當然要從可行性中規,然後才有建設計畫嘛,大概這整個程序來走啦那我理解的,這應該是公路局辦的嘛公路局他陳局長齁,林副山林局長齁林局長他也很積極,我記得上次委員要求說由他親自來主持啦,我記得啦他是無奈,不是積極啊他很無奈"},{"start":419.689,"end":446.05,"text":"我想應該不會無奈啦,我想這部分他應該是他也沒有獲得授權啦他也積極在處理啦我想這部分我回去再跟那個林區長請他再市長是部長也沒有獲得授權部長也跟我講得很清楚他說委員你看我像是不給你錢的人嗎是不是這個層次應該是在總統跟院長那我說你們要提啊"},{"start":447.335,"end":471.056,"text":"你不提醒他,他們事情那麼多,怎麼會記得我們?馬祖就鳥蛋一顆,在總執行前夕,卓院長好不容易跑到馬祖去了一趟,沒人去沒人管所以次長回去跟部長再轉告一下,不是你的問題趕快開會啊,陳次長、彥博次長你要開會啊"},{"start":476.107,"end":500.402,"text":"到現在你看總資金現在已經又一個月了,已經又一個月了好不好好這件事就是有關民航局那個IMAS啊IMAS就是那個攔阻的那個嘛那個一個蠻貴的預算有了,錢也有了,計畫也有了飆不出去啊,沒有人來飆"},{"start":502.555,"end":527.369,"text":"這個再加油一下好不好我們再檢討一下預算看了解真正原因是什麼流標因為我們的跑道很短然後側風很強這個不怕意外我們只怕萬一有個攔截網對我們整個非常的安全因為我們的飛機不是我們的機場不是一個非常標準安全的機場所以這個對我們來講非常重要"},{"start":528.353,"end":534.586,"text":"好不好,以上兩點雖然不是你的業務啊,不是你也管的,但是幫我轉一下好不好,謝謝,謝謝趙偉,謝謝"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}