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還是同眾醫院也好都有提出他們的看法目前他們也是正在來配合我們矯正機關來做這樣的推動"},{"start":313.82,"end":332.064,"text":"那實務上的話年底前有沒有辦法五十一個監所都把它配置完畢配置是沒問題 沒問題嗎 部長可以可以 署長他說在執行當中盤點過了所以部長支不支持在今年年底 或者更快讓五十一個監所的收容人都可以得到這樣的一個服務 好不好"},{"start":332.435,"end":356.063,"text":"好 這個是謝謝委員的一個寶貴好 謝謝那再下來 我也除了通訊診療之外呢怎麼樣緩解監所的人力吃緊目前一一四年核定是六萬結果實際收容超收了兩千七那今年我們這個跟稅收預期增加好事但這個沒有好事啦我們不希望這樣那今年整體會超收多少有沒有估計你們的人力負荷"},{"start":359.417,"end":387.487,"text":"我來給你看一下 目前我拿到的資料是最新的資料到目前為止 以彰化 桃園 台北跟桃園女監 超收率最高可以達到八成七那有外溢監來講 相對的外溢監 結果是控制率也是八成六部長會覺得很奇怪 一般的監所人數超收外溢監實際收容的控制率太高"},{"start":388.747,"end":416.583,"text":"你這樣不是牢獄不均嗎 部長怎麼辦這部分 我有請矯正署這部分是針對這些可以做一些的疏解的這些的原因是什麼 要怎麼解決因為我們當初一個監所的一個興建他們有些是弄在比較偏鄉譬如說花東那邊會比較多那當然我們但是我們大部分的收容是集中在我們西部的北部你現在跳到這個問題來 我講給你聽"},{"start":418.584,"end":436.391,"text":"外溢監的管理本來配置給他的管理員他可以管400個人現在只收容100個人那這就對於其他的監所操作的管理人壓力很大我們沒人要死 你這樣贏贏這是一個問題 牢獄不均對監所的管理人量再來外溢監特別有維護的範圍"},{"start":438.5,"end":459.894,"text":"維護的範圍很廣大他就是利用收容人去那邊 受刑人去那邊做整理結果呢 本來那個區域啊死甲地啊 四百個人整理的現在只有一百個人整理部長那這樣子是不是變成說做管理上來講就一個環境的維護上來講都造成這樣的不行那你們怎麼辦 要幫忙復歸要調配資源 強化外衣間有什麼作為你要去研究一下嗎這邊我請您署長來來 署長趕快說"},{"start":467.405,"end":494.515,"text":"謝謝委員的關心那個外衣間部分的話因為前置的修法把那個條件限縮的很緊所以說我們變成說符合條件能變少那現在我們有透過科技監控能夠做有效的監控之後我們打算說這個遴選辦法再做個調整那另外外衣間部分有些閒置的空間跟人力的話我們都去調波使用譬如說花蓮街的外衣間它是支持它是支援花蓮街的幾乎人力那把外衣間目前的空間我們調整為女性"},{"start":496.736,"end":523.996,"text":"女性的一個的收容處所來解決這樣女性操作的問題所以剛剛蘇長講一個重點啦過去我們在推動一些修法的一些必要性在下手的時候可能有時候過嚴苛造成了我們監獄行刑法149條為了使受刑人從事生產事業服務業公共建設或其他特定作業並實施階段性處遇使其逐步適應社會生活所以設了外衣間外衣間是幫助受刑人能夠"},{"start":525.017,"end":552.49,"text":"得到矯智之後早日復歸社會部長是不是這樣子所以這樣的條件應該我們積極的去促成幫助受刑人受到矯正之後呢可以回到社會嘛是 所以你們支持嗎我們朝著這個方向在努力好 所以最後兩個答案最後兩個一個要求第一個衛護部已經允諾開放監所通訊診療全科別那是不是請您責任矯正署要進入盤點現在的監所的設備需求可以全面的採用通訊診療的需要的資源可不可以"},{"start":552.85,"end":556.774,"text":"那我們預證也會支持啦第二個就一般間所操作外遇中控制這樣一個錯亂的情況為了保導致我們的預證資源錯置那這樣矯正主向強化我們的外遇間幫助受刑人復歸社會好不好是 這個我們來努力好 謝謝部長 謝謝組長那就也不麻煩副市長了謝謝 謝謝主席好 謝謝中委"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:08:47.449000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:08:51.595000+08:00","text":"主席、在場的委員先進、列席的政府機關首長及官員、會場工作夥伴、媒體記者女士先生。","quality":0.771},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:08:52.656000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:08:57.382000+08:00","text":"有請法務部的鄭部長，還有矯正署的林署長。","quality":0.944},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-08T11:08:57.382000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T11:08:58.703000+08:00","text":"請鄭部長、林署長。","quality":0},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:08:58.703000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:09:03.229000+08:00","text":"衛福部長照司的吳副司長請準備，但不一定會有需要。","quality":0.864},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:09:03.329000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:09:03.369000+08:00","text":"部長，先問你。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-07-08T11:09:06.956000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:09:06.956000+08:00","text":"委員好。","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:09:07.096000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:09:07.336000+08:00","text":"部長好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:09:09.539000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:09:18.748000+08:00","text":"2024年，也就是兩年前我就請教那時候的矯正署如何精進監所，包括通訊診療的事，部長還記得嗎？","quality":0.737},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:09:22.972000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:09:25.294000+08:00","text":"那時候的智慧監獄包括通訊診療，有印象啦？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:09:26.435000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:09:40.525000+08:00","text":"在今年的4月，我親自請教您，你也說要積極推動監所的通訊診療，我們希望能夠透過視訊遠距的方式幫助收容人跟受刑人，不要影響到他們的健康權。","quality":0.951},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:09:40.805000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:09:47.810000+08:00","text":"我想請教部長現在的情況，監所如果有收容人要就醫，戒護就醫是不是要耗費三個人力？","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-07-08T11:09:48.829000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:09:51.292000+08:00","text":"的確是，因為監所人力嚴重不足。是啊！","quality":0.867},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-07-08T11:09:52.133000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:09:54.176000+08:00","text":"如果真的要戒護就醫，這部分的確真的是人力……","quality":0.368},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:09:55.858000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:09:58.781000+08:00","text":"為什麼現在監所戒護就醫的量好像比以前更多了呢？","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-07-08T11:10:00.639000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:10:00.979000+08:00","text":"收容人多……","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:10:01.479000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:10:03.100000+08:00","text":"收容人老化嘛！","quality":0.5},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:10:04.220000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:10:15.367000+08:00","text":"慢性病、心血管疾病、糖尿病增加了，監所人力已經不夠了，所以如果適度的引進通訊診療，是不是就可以節省管理的人力？","quality":0.918},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:10:15.927000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:10:18.248000+08:00","text":"也有助於收容人健康醫療的權益，是不是這樣子？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-07-08T11:10:20.768000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:10:21.929000+08:00","text":"這是一個好的方向。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:10:21.949000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:10:23.390000+08:00","text":"所以你也是支持擴大採用？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-07-08T11:10:25.450000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:10:36.796000+08:00","text":"有些在執行這部分，也沒辦法說一定有辦法，因為還要看那個病患是不是有慢性病、重病，或者是醫生要直接親自來問診的……","quality":0.82},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:10:36.796000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:10:37.796000+08:00","text":"對，沒有錯！","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:10:37.796000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:10:40.837000+08:00","text":"部長，你不用緊張，因為這個部分我已經充分地跟署長討論過。","quality":0.76},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:10:40.837000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:10:55.846000+08:00","text":"請署長告訴部長，在6月27日，我們跟衛福部石部長、教育部鄭英耀部長開了記者會，為了讓我們的青年圓夢，很多年輕學子到海外去遊學，連他們遊學這段時間的醫療健康，衛福部都想到了。","quality":0.787},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:10:55.986000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:10:58.788000+08:00","text":"他們用了衛福部的通訊診察治療辦法，把這些海外學子都納入，而且同一天，我特別請署長派了矯正署的同仁也去了解。","quality":0.939},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:10:58.808000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:11:17.704000+08:00","text":"結果第二天、6月28日就說，「遠距醫療，監所全科別，開放視訊看診」。","quality":0.917},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:11:17.704000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:11:23.451000+08:00","text":"署長，你跟部長說明一下過去的情況跟未來你們要努力的方向是什麼。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長憲銘","start":"2026-07-08T11:11:24.031000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:11:30.481000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員對監所醫療的關心，而且給我們很多協助跟指導，過去我們有……","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:11:32.303000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:11:32.303000+08:00","text":"4個科嘛！","quality":0.333},{"speaker":"林署長憲銘","start":"2026-07-08T11:11:32.303000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:11:47.876000+08:00","text":"遠距的目前有7個監所，但是是靠個別的軟體去達到遠距醫療，現在委員說的是弄一個共同的app、「看醫生」的軟體，透過手機、透過LINE把它串聯起來，我覺得這是更方便的。","quality":0.903},{"speaker":"林署長憲銘","start":"2026-07-08T11:11:48.316000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:12:07.726000+08:00","text":"所以我們前天已經找了秀傳醫院、童綜合醫院及遠距醫療聯盟，到彰化監獄一起來開會，共同討論未來在細節上、實務推動上要怎麼做，我們有做出一個會議紀錄，到時候再給大家看後面會怎麼推動。","quality":0.679},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:12:08.627000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:12:09.428000+08:00","text":"謝謝署長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:12:09.428000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:12:11.149000+08:00","text":"部長，我說明給你聽。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:12:11.149000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:12:30.968000+08:00","text":"衛福部在通過通訊診察治療辦法之後，現在在海外工作的國人，包括旅外的青年，都可以全科別，只要有慢性病處方簽且他在海外不方便搭飛機回國拿藥的，透過視訊診療就可以。","quality":0.836},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:12:31.888000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:12:42.015000+08:00","text":"過去矯治機關只有4個科別，而且還要特約醫師到現場去，其實能看的很有限，但一旦納進來之後就可以用了。","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:12:43.055000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:12:45.337000+08:00","text":"剛剛署長說的就是，他們7月6日已經跟秀傳醫院在線上試辦了，他們打算怎麼做？","quality":0.906},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:12:45.357000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:13:11.212000+08:00","text":"目前衛福部開放使用的叫做海外醫療「看醫生」平臺，是針對海外工作的國人以及學生；然後現在特別透過中華電信弄一個矯正署的版本，只有矯正署可以用，因為醫療是個人重要的隱私，所以中華電信會加密。","quality":0.929},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:13:11.892000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:13:21.157000+08:00","text":"因為在國內通訊的部分，LINE很方便，所以只要監所可以連上線，就可以享受同樣的服務。","quality":0.842},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:13:21.157000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:13:23.694000+08:00","text":"部長，支不支持？支持。好。","quality":0.889},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:13:24.195000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:13:26.316000+08:00","text":"署長，目前是不是有51個監所？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:13:26.936000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:13:35.579000+08:00","text":"每個監所都可以設置一個專門的空間，因為受刑人不能夠帶手機，所以一定要用你們的通訊設備才能夠得到他的醫療服務。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:13:36.240000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:13:38.200000+08:00","text":"目前有什麼問題？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長憲銘","start":"2026-07-08T11:13:38.200000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:13:46.724000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，因為前一天我們開會，會議當中，不管是秀傳醫院也好，童綜合醫院也好，都有提出他們的看法。","quality":0.93},{"speaker":"林署長憲銘","start":"2026-07-08T11:13:47.144000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:13:53.162000+08:00","text":"目前他們也正在配合矯正機關做這樣的推動，實務上的話……","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:13:53.162000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:13:57.047000+08:00","text":"年底前有沒有辦法51個監所都配置完畢？","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長憲銘","start":"2026-07-08T11:13:57.047000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:13:58.108000+08:00","text":"配置是沒問題，但是在醫療院所的合作……","quality":0.375},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:13:58.108000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:13:58.529000+08:00","text":"沒問題嘛！","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:14:00.692000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:14:10.044000+08:00","text":"署長說在執行上都盤點過了，所以部長支不支持在今年年底前，甚至更快，讓51個監所收容人都可以得到這樣的服務，好不好？","quality":0.9},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-07-08T11:14:10.435000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:14:14.496000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝委員的寶貴意見。","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:14:14.496000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:14:15.057000+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:14:16.217000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:14:19.638000+08:00","text":"除了通訊診療之外，怎麼樣緩解監所的人力吃緊？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:14:19.638000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:14:30.722000+08:00","text":"目前114年核定容額是6萬人，結果實際收容超收了2,700人，今年稅收預期增加是好事，但這個不是好事啦！","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:14:31.162000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:14:32.122000+08:00","text":"我們不希望這樣。","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:14:32.522000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:14:33.563000+08:00","text":"請問預估今年整體會超收多少？","quality":0.692},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:14:33.583000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:14:34.043000+08:00","text":"有沒有估計你們的人力負荷？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:14:37.417000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:14:47.340000+08:00","text":"我給你看一下，我拿到的是最新的資料，到目前為止，以彰化看守所、桃園監獄、臺北看守所跟桃園女監來說，超收率最高可以達到八成七。","quality":0.818},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:14:48.801000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:14:56.063000+08:00","text":"以外役監來講，外役監的空置率也是八成六。","quality":0.611},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:14:56.784000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:15:08.148000+08:00","text":"部長會不會覺得很奇怪，一般的監所人數超收，外役監實際收容的空置率卻太高，這樣不是勞逸不均嗎？","quality":0.81},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:15:08.148000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:15:10.369000+08:00","text":"部長，怎麼辦？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-07-08T11:15:10.369000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:15:18.774000+08:00","text":"關於這部分，我有請矯正署針對可以做一些紓解的……","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:15:18.874000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:15:19.454000+08:00","text":"原因是什麼？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:15:19.454000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:15:20.755000+08:00","text":"要怎麼解決？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-07-08T11:15:20.755000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:15:33.542000+08:00","text":"因為當初有些監所是興建在比較偏鄉，譬如說花東那邊會比較多，但是大部分的收容人卻集中在西部、北部……","quality":0.886},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:15:33.823000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:15:34.583000+08:00","text":"你現在跳到這個問題了，我講給你聽啦！","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:15:36.584000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:15:52.690000+08:00","text":"有關外役監的管理，本來配置給它的管理員可以管400個人，現在只收容100個人，這就讓其他超收監所的管理人壓力很大，覺得我們在這邊忙得要死，你們那邊卻閒閒的，這是一個問題，勞逸不均，監所的管理量能不平均。","quality":0.686},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:15:53.150000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:16:01.744000+08:00","text":"再來，外役監有要維護的範圍，維護的範圍很廣大，它就是利用受刑人去那邊整理。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:16:02.924000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:16:07.187000+08:00","text":"本來那個區域有10甲地，可以給400個人整理，結果現在只有100個人整理。","quality":0.769},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:16:08.048000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:16:15.893000+08:00","text":"部長，就管理上來講、就環境的維護上來講，都造成這樣不行的狀況，你們要怎麼辦？","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:16:15.893000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:16:17.754000+08:00","text":"要幫助復歸、要調配資源，應積極強化外役監，你們有什麼作為，要去研究一下嗎？","quality":0.75},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-07-08T11:16:17.754000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:16:17.814000+08:00","text":"這部分我請林署長來說明。","quality":0.545},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:16:17.814000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:16:17.894000+08:00","text":"來，署長趕快說。","quality":1},{"speaker":"林署長憲銘","start":"2026-07-08T11:16:25.405000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:16:34.488000+08:00","text":"謝謝委員的關心，外役監部分，因為前次的修法把條件限縮得很緊，變成符合條件的人變少。","quality":0.838},{"speaker":"林署長憲銘","start":"2026-07-08T11:16:35.409000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:16:41.631000+08:00","text":"不過現在我們有透過科技監控，能夠做有效的監控之後，我們打算將遴選辦法再調整。","quality":0.914},{"speaker":"林署長憲銘","start":"2026-07-08T11:16:42.331000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:16:45.793000+08:00","text":"另外，外役監有些閒置的空間跟人力不足的話，我們都會調撥使用。","quality":0.778},{"speaker":"林署長憲銘","start":"2026-07-08T11:16:46.453000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:16:58.979000+08:00","text":"譬如說，花蓮自強外役監去支援花蓮監獄的戒護人力，然後八德外役監目前的空間，我們想調整為女性受容人處所，解決女性超收的問題。","quality":0.571},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:16:59.380000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:17:19.695000+08:00","text":"剛剛署長說到一個重點，過去我們在推動一些修法的必要性，可能有時候下手過於嚴苛，監獄行刑法第一百四十九條規定：「為使受刑人從事生產事業、服務業、公共建設或其他特定作業，並實施階段性處遇，使其逐步適應社會生活，得設外役監。","quality":0.816},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:17:19.695000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:17:25.758000+08:00","text":"」外役監是為了幫助受刑人在得到矯治之後，能夠早日復歸社會，部長是不是這樣子？","quality":0.735},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:17:26.399000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:17:32.181000+08:00","text":"所以這樣的條件，我們應該要積極地促成，幫助受刑人受到矯正之後可以回到社會。","quality":0.882},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:17:33.062000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:17:33.522000+08:00","text":"所以你們支持？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-07-08T11:17:33.682000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:17:35.123000+08:00","text":"是，我們朝這個方向在努力。","quality":0.909},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:17:35.383000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:17:50.130000+08:00","text":"好，所以最後有兩個要求：第一個，衛福部已允諾將開放監所通訊診療全科別，是不是請您責成矯正署，儘速盤點現在監所的設備需求，全面採用通訊診療所需資源？","quality":0.894},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:17:50.290000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:17:50.470000+08:00","text":"可不可以？","quality":1},{"speaker":"鄭部長銘謙","start":"2026-07-08T11:17:50.470000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-08T11:17:51.470000+08:00","text":"這邊我們再努力促成。","quality":0.222},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:17:50.930000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:17:50.970000+08:00","text":"好，我們也會支持預算。","quality":0.444},{"speaker":"鍾委員佳濱","start":"2026-07-08T11:17:51.050000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-08T11:17:53.032000+08:00","text":"第二個，就一般監所超收、外役監空置這樣錯亂的情況，導致獄政資源錯置，希望矯正署要強化外役監，幫助受刑人復歸社會，好不好？","quality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