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十二) 委員翁曉玲等18 人擬具「教育經費編列與管理法第三條條文修正草案」案、\n(十三)委員馬文君等20人擬具「教育經費編列與管理法第三條條文修正草案」案、(十四)委員柯\n志恩等21人擬具「教育經費編列與管理法第三條、第十條及第十三條條文修正草案」案；五、審\n查委員葉元之等19人擬具「國民轉介教育條例草案」案；六、繼續審查(一)委員范雲等16人擬具\n「學校供餐法草案」案、(二)委員馬文君等17人擬具「學校供餐法草案」案、(三)委員魯明哲等\n24人擬具「學校供餐法草案」案、(四)委員王育敏等17人擬具「學校供餐法草案」案、(五)委員\n洪孟楷等20人擬具「學校供餐法草案」案、(六)委員黃健豪等20人擬具「學校供餐法草案」案、\n(七)委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具「學校供餐條例草案」案、(八)委員林倩綺等21人擬具「學校午餐及\n營養促進條例草案」案、(九)委員鍾佳濱等17人擬具「學校午餐法草案」案、(十)委員郭昱晴等\n16人擬具「學校午餐及飲食教育法草案」案、(十一)委員張雅琳等17人擬具「學校午餐及飲食教\n育法草案」案、(十二)委員柯志恩等21人擬具「學校午餐及飲食教育條例草案」案、(十三)委員\n陳培瑜等26人擬具「學校午餐及飲食教育條例草案」案、(十四)台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「高級中等\n以下學校及幼兒園午餐供餐法草案」案、(十五)委員王鴻薇等20人擬具「學校飲食健康促進法草\n案」案、(十六)委員葉元之等20人擬具「學校飲食健康促進法草案」案、(十七)委員陳秀寳等20\n人擬具「學校飲食法草案」案、(十八)委員林宜瑾等33人擬具「學校飲食法草案」案、(十九)委\n員劉建國等17人擬具「學校飲食教育法草案」案、(二十)委員徐巧芯等19人擬具「學校營養飲食\n供餐法草案」案、( 二十一) 委員邱鎮軍等25 人擬具「高級中等以下學校供餐及飲食教育條例草\n案」案、( 二十二) 委員羅廷瑋等20 人擬具「高級中等以下學校午餐及飲食教育條例草案」案、\n( 二十三) 委員萬美玲等19人擬具「學校營養午餐法草案」案、( 二十四) 委員葛如鈞等17 人擬具\n「學校供餐法草案」案、 ( 二十五) 委員吳沛憶等20人擬具「學校午餐及飲食教育促進法草案」\n案、( 二十六) 委員陳亭妃等16 人擬具「學校飲食法草案」案、( 二十七) 委員王美惠等19 人擬具\n「學校飲食法草案」案、(二十八)委員陳菁徽等22人擬具「學校營養午餐法草案」案、(二十九)\n委員許宇甄等23人擬具「學校營養午餐法草案」案、(三十)委員張嘉郡等19人擬具「學校營養午\n餐法草案」案、(三十一)委員李彥秀等16人擬具「學校營養午餐及飲食教育條例草案」案、 (三\n十二)委員鄭天財 Sra Kacaw 等17人擬具「高級中等以下學校午餐及飲食教育條例草案」案、(三\n十三)委員伍麗華 Saidhai Tahovecahe 等18人擬具「學校供餐及飲食教育條例草案」案、(三十\n四 ) 委員林月琴等 29 人擬具「學校供餐及飲食教育法草案」案、 ( 三十五 ) 委員游顥等 17 人擬具\n「學校營養午餐及食品安全衛生管理法草案」案、(三十六)委員顏寬恒等18人擬具「校園飲食均\n衡及健康促進法草案」案、( 三十七) 委員吳思瑤等17 人擬具「學校午餐及飲食教育條例草案」\n案、(三十八)委員張智倫等17人擬具「高級中等以下學校午餐及飲食教育條例草案」案、(三十\n九)委員蔡易餘等16人擬具「學校飲食法草案」案；七、審查委員羅智強等 20人擬具「學校營養\n飲食供餐法草案」案（第四、五案詢答）","agenda_id":"1156102_00001"}}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}