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那我想確定一下，接下來我們在刑法第一百八十五條之三上路之後，他如果施用毒品，毒品危害防制法這邊是一罪一罰是嗎？","quality":0.745},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-07-22T10:19:08.181818+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:19:14+08:00","text":"他吸毒行為有吸毒的處罰，毒駕有毒駕的處罰，這是兩個不同的行為。好。","quality":0.966},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:19:14.222222+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:19:26.800000+08:00","text":"那我想要再跟次長請教，其實我上個禮拜去了你們的司法官學院，我看到了一個我覺得滿精彩的研究，你們的智庫做了一個非常精彩的研究報告。","quality":0.983},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:19:27.888889+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:20:41.666667+08:00","text":"你們當時去做了社區戒癮跟持續處遇的關聯性研究，然後就發現我們今天把他送去關起來、送去強制戒治，但是他未來的再犯率竟然達到6成，如果他今天是做到緩起訴附命戒癮治療的話，他的再犯率只有35.6%，可是我們現在在這個修法的過程之中，我似乎並沒有看到接下來……因為這個統計告訴我們，其實戒癮治療還是非常重要的，所以我想要跟次長請教，當然法定刑提高到五年以下，檢察官仍然可以以個案做緩起訴，並附加治療或其他條件，但是法律上可以緩起訴，跟制度上確保毒駕者接受有效處遇是兩件不同的事情，所以這次要把符合要件的毒駕行為一律提高到五年以下，是否與我們把依毒品種類、危害程度以及戒癮處遇分級的思維有所落差？","quality":0.926},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:20:41.888889+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:20:50.846154+08:00","text":"我還是要強調，如果沒有把有效的社區處遇一起納入的話，那我們反而沒有解決毒品依賴跟反覆毒駕的可能性。","quality":0.848},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-07-22T10:20:51.363636+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:21:16.500000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，我們國家的毒品政策，對單獨吸毒這個行為的話，我們不是要把他入監，或者是機構內的觀察類似強制處分，基本上我們是透過左邊附命戒癮治療的方式，讓他戒除它，這個處遇讓他戒除他的身癮跟心癮，所以我們現在整個單純施用毒品的，左邊這個戒癮治療的比例也提高到44%左右了。","quality":0.795},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-07-22T10:21:17.666667+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:21:27.222222+08:00","text":"我們認為透過戒癮治療對單獨施用毒品施以處遇，對他的預防再犯是有效的，所以整個國家的毒品政策現在是……","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:21:27.333333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:21:28.777778+08:00","text":"對，我知道，但是我們現在講的就是毒駕嘛！","quality":0.824},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:21:29+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:21:41.571429+08:00","text":"因為毒駕他也是有施用毒品的狀態，而且因為我們之前看了一下……這份報告裡面也都有講到，實際上的毒駕案件涉及不同級別的毒品，安非他命其實反而是最高的。","quality":0.925},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-07-22T10:21:42.428571+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:21:48.200000+08:00","text":"跟委員報告，他毒駕歸毒駕的處罰，他毒駕之前有個吸毒，吸毒的行為就要進入我們剛剛講的處遇。","quality":0.775},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:21:49+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:21:52.272727+08:00","text":"對，我知道，但是問題是有時候我們是因為在他毒駕的時候才抓到他吸毒嘛！","quality":0.774},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:21:52.454545+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:21:52.818182+08:00","text":"對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-07-22T10:21:52.818182+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T10:21:53.818182+08:00","text":"對，沒有錯。","quality":0},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:21:53+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:22:04.777778+08:00","text":"所以我現在就是講，當我們抓到他毒駕的時候，你現在的刑罰似乎沒有考量到要讓他去做戒癮治療這個部分。","quality":0.756},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-07-22T10:22:04.777778+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T10:22:05.777778+08:00","text":"不會啊！","quality":0},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-07-22T10:22:05+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:22:08.714286+08:00","text":"報告委員，這是兩件可以並行的事情，除非他被羈押了。","quality":0.773},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:22:10.090909+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:22:12.428571+08:00","text":"沒關係，次長，所以你是說這兩件並行嗎？","quality":0.938},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:22:12.571429+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:22:12.857143+08:00","text":"對不對？","quality":1},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-07-22T10:22:13+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:22:17.588235+08:00","text":"對，除非這個毒駕的被告被羈押了，要不然他單純前面那個吸毒行為，我們還是介入剛剛那個……","quality":0.711},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:22:17.705882+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:22:30.666667+08:00","text":"我知道，現在吸毒行為非常明確了，我們就不用再討論，我們現在討論的是毒駕接下來的狀況，因為重點是我們關了他，如果我們沒有幫他去做這些相關的戒癮治療，他出來之後，如果以這個數字來看，他就會再犯嘛！","quality":0.897},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:22:31+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:22:38.500000+08:00","text":"我們今天就希望他不要再犯，所以接下來如何讓他去做戒癮治療，反而是我更希望你們可以清楚呈現的。","quality":0.884},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-07-22T10:22:39+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:22:46.666667+08:00","text":"沒有問題，除非他毒駕被羈押，沒有辦法施以戒癮治療，要不然吸毒行為我們就會把他送去戒癮治療。","quality":0.829},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:22:47.181818+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:22:50.636364+08:00","text":"不是，現在毒駕基本上就是直接關起來。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-07-22T10:22:51.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:22:55+08:00","text":"他是毒駕，還是要符合羈押的要件。對啊！","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:22:55.250000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:22:57.842105+08:00","text":"就是符合羈押的，因為我們今天在討論第一百八十五條之三……","quality":0.64},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-07-22T10:22:58.157895+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:23:06.857143+08:00","text":"我了解，毒駕的部分，他本來就應該做毒駕刑罰的處理，這是毒駕駕駛的部分，但是毒的部分還是可以做戒癮治療啊！","quality":0.702},{"speaker":"黃次長謀信","start":"2026-07-22T10:23:07.133333+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:23:08.86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se,"end":"2026-07-22T10:29:16.800000+08:00","text":"我想這個部分牽涉到量能啦！","quality":1},{"speaker":"林副局長故廷","start":"2026-07-22T10:29:17.941176+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:29:23.923077+08:00","text":"因為行政院現在已經有一個……包括交通部、包括法務部、包括衛福部、包括我們，我們再來提討論。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:29:24.076923+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:29:29.800000+08:00","text":"對，所以我現在就是要問大概什麼時候可以來追進度，大概什麼時候你們會有個結果？","quality":0.943},{"speaker":"林副局長故廷","start":"2026-07-22T10:29:30+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:29:34.800000+08:00","text":"我們可以提，但是這個部分是整體行政院的整個團隊要去考量的。","quality":0.963},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:29:35+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:29:36.333333+08:00","text":"好，那不然這樣好不好？","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:29:36.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:29:40.076923+08:00","text":"我簡單做個結論，就1個月之後讓我們知道進度，可以嗎？好。","quality":1},{"speaker":"張委員雅琳","start":"2026-07-22T10:29:40.230769+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:29:42.333333+08:00","text":"好，謝謝。","quality":1},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-22T10:29:43+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T10:29:44.500000+08:00","text":"謝謝張委員。","quality":0.6},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-22T10:29:45+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T10:29:48.428571+08:00","text":"接下來有請沈發惠委員發言。","quality":0}]},"gazette":{"lineno":908,"blocks":[["張委員雅琳：（10時15分）謝謝主席。有請法務部次長。"],["主席：有請次長。"],["黃次長謀信：委員好。"],["張委員雅琳：次長早。基本上今天想要特別來跟次長討論我們的毒品政策，過去在毒品危害防制條例，我們是採分級處遇，但是我們現在修正的方向是只要駕駛人施用毒品、麻醉藥品或其他相類之物，尿液或血液之中的毒品或者是代謝物達到公告的濃度，或有其他事證足以認定不能夠安全駕駛，修法後就是處五年以下有期徒刑，並且得併科五十萬以下罰金。也就是說，現在的修法也會讓不管是一級、二級、三級，全部都是一體適用的對嗎？"],["黃次長謀信：對，毒駕是。"],["張委員雅琳：我知道。那我想問一下，法務部過去在立法院審查第三級跟第四級毒品相關修法的時候，曾經表示過第三、四級毒品的施用者，跟第一級跟第二級是不一樣的，在成癮性、危害程度上、施用情境上都有所不同，若一開始就進入機構式處遇或直接以刑罰介入，可能就會造成標籤化，也可能使學生的就學、民眾的工作及家庭的支持中斷，因此法務部過去主張，現行制度應該要採取行政裁罰、毒品危害講習等較為漸進的處遇方式。這是我之前查到的資料，這是過去的立場嗎？"],["黃次長謀信：現在也是，完全正確。現在法務部的毒品防制條例就單純施用第三級跟第四級的毒品，它是透過毒品講習跟裁罰的方式處理。"],["張委員雅琳：但是我們現在在講刑法第一百八十五條之三的時候，我們反而沒有分一、二、三、四不同的等級而有不同的刑罰，好像全部都是一體適用，所以這個主張……"],["黃次長謀信：沒錯，因為第一百八十五條之三是針對公共危險，它是吸毒之後產生的公共危險，所以它處罰的罪責是公共危險這個行為，而不是吸毒。吸毒本身另外有刑罰的規定，如果施用第一級、第二級，本來就要處罰他的施用行為，再加上駕車的公共危險是一個併罰的概念。"],["張委員雅琳：好。那我也想請教，剛剛講因為他造成了公共危險，對不對？"],["黃次長謀信：對。"],["張委員雅琳：所以基本上我們就應該以他造成的問題而來一體適用。那我就想請教，如果我們看到施用第一級的毒品法定刑是六個月以上，第一級喔！六個月以上五年以下，對不對？可是修法後的毒駕基本刑則是五年以下，雖然兩者刑度不同，但是最高刑都是五年喔！所以這樣子我就會有一個問題，既然兩者的核心結構不同，這樣子我們在毒駕的部分，最高刑度就應該要往上加啊！對吧？"],["黃次長謀信：沒有，委員，他吸用第一級毒品，被處五年以下六個月以上，它是一個A行為。吸完毒之後駕車，它是公共危險，是一個B行為。"],["張委員雅琳：對，沒錯，是啊！"],["黃次長謀信：所以A加B是要併罰的。"],["張委員雅琳：A加B要併罰？"],["黃次長謀信：對，所以A罪跟B罪兩個是併罰的概念，數罪併罰的概念，它不是變一罪。"],["張委員雅琳：那我想確定一下，接下來我們在刑法第一百八十五條之三上路之後，他如果施用毒品，毒品危害防制法這邊是一罪一罰是嗎？"],["黃次長謀信：他吸毒行為有吸毒的處罰，毒駕有毒駕的處罰，這是兩個不同的行為。"],["張委員雅琳：好。那我想要再跟次長請教，其實我上個禮拜去了你們的司法官學院，我看到了一個我覺得滿精彩的研究，你們的智庫做了一個非常精彩的研究報告。你們當時去做了社區戒癮跟持續處遇的關聯性研究，然後就發現我們今天把他送去關起來、送去強制戒治，但是他未來的再犯率竟然達到6成，如果他今天是做到緩起訴附命戒癮治療的話，他的再犯率只有35.6%，可是我們現在在這個修法的過程之中，我似乎並沒有看到接下來……因為這個統計告訴我們，其實戒癮治療還是非常重要的，所以我想要跟次長請教，當然法定刑提高到五年以下，檢察官仍然可以以個案做緩起訴，並附加治療或其他條件，但是法律上可以緩起訴，跟制度上確保毒駕者接受有效處遇是兩件不同的事情，所以這次要把符合要件的毒駕行為一律提高到五年以下，是否與我們把依毒品種類、危害程度以及戒癮處遇分級的思維有所落差？我還是要強調，如果沒有把有效的社區處遇一起納入的話，那我們反而沒有解決毒品依賴跟反覆毒駕的可能性。"],["黃次長謀信：跟委員報告，我們國家的毒品政策，對單獨吸毒這個行為的話，我們不是要把他入監，或者是機構內的觀察類似強制處分，基本上我們是透過左邊附命戒癮治療的方式，讓他戒除它，這個處遇讓他戒除他的身癮跟心癮，所以我們現在整個單純施用毒品的，左邊這個戒癮治療的比例也提高到44%左右了。我們認為透過戒癮治療對單獨施用毒品施以處遇，對他的預防再犯是有效的，所以整個國家的毒品政策現在是……"],["張委員雅琳：對，我知道，但是我們現在講的就是毒駕嘛！因為毒駕他也是有施用毒品的狀態，而且因為我們之前看了一下……這份報告裡面也都有講到，實際上的毒駕案件涉及不同級別的毒品，安非他命其實反而是最高的。"],["黃次長謀信：跟委員報告，他毒駕歸毒駕的處罰，他毒駕之前有個吸毒，吸毒的行為就要進入我們剛剛講的處遇。"],["張委員雅琳：對，我知道，但是問題是有時候我們是因為在他毒駕的時候才抓到他吸毒嘛！對不對？"],["黃次長謀信：對，沒有錯。"],["張委員雅琳：所以我現在就是講，當我們抓到他毒駕的時候，你現在的刑罰似乎沒有考量到要讓他去做戒癮治療這個部分。"],["黃次長謀信：不會啊！報告委員，這是兩件可以並行的事情，除非他被羈押了。"],["張委員雅琳：沒關係，次長，所以你是說這兩件並行嗎？對不對？"],["黃次長謀信：對，除非這個毒駕的被告被羈押了，要不然他單純前面那個吸毒行為，我們還是介入剛剛那個……"],["張委員雅琳：我知道，現在吸毒行為非常明確了，我們就不用再討論，我們現在討論的是毒駕接下來的狀況，因為重點是我們關了他，如果我們沒有幫他去做這些相關的戒癮治療，他出來之後，如果以這個數字來看，他就會再犯嘛！我們今天就希望他不要再犯，所以接下來如何讓他去做戒癮治療，反而是我更希望你們可以清楚呈現的。"],["黃次長謀信：沒有問題，除非他毒駕被羈押，沒有辦法施以戒癮治療，要不然吸毒行為我們就會把他送去戒癮治療。"],["張委員雅琳：不是，現在毒駕基本上就是直接關起來。"],["黃次長謀信：他是毒駕，還是要符合羈押的要件。"],["張委員雅琳：對啊！就是符合羈押的，因為我們今天在討論第一百八十五條之三……"],["黃次長謀信：我了解，毒駕的部分，他本來就應該做毒駕刑罰的處理，這是毒駕駕駛的部分，但是毒的部分還是可以做戒癮治療啊！吸毒的部分還是可以做戒癮治療。"],["張委員雅琳：所以我想釐清一件事情，因為現在的毒駕只要符合那些要件，應該是唾液、尿檢通過，我們就會羈押了，對不對？"],["黃次長謀信：這當然要法官按個案去……"],["張委員雅琳：對啦！我們就會起訴嘛！然後法官如果同意的話，基本上就羈押了，對不對？"],["黃次長謀信：對。"],["張委員雅琳：流程上是這樣。那他羈押之後，這個戒癮治療是什麼？"],["黃次長謀信：報告委員，因為他還是有一個吸毒行為嘛！"],["張委員雅琳：對，沒錯，所以我們的流程會怎麼走？"],["黃次長謀信：跟委員報告，如果他被羈押，當然事實上不可能做戒癮治療，他一旦被釋放之後，我們還是會把他……他還是要處理他吸毒的行為，他要就他吸毒的行為……"],["張委員雅琳：沒關係，這個部分我們待會兒會後約個時間，把這個部分討論清楚好不好？因為我還有一題要問。"],["黃次長謀信：好。"],["張委員雅琳：我們有看到一些駕駛，其實現在在等待檢驗期間，對於一般的民眾來說不會有太大的影響，但如果是駕駛計程車或是貨運車輛或是其他相關職業，一旦不能營業，他的收入就會立即中斷。以交通部112年的計程車營運狀況調查，其實他們每個月的總收入只有4萬8,766元，扣除燃料費、維修、保險費等等，他每個月的淨收入其實只有2萬6,957元，平均每一天大概就是1,066元。當然我也完全同意我們一定要做唾液篩檢，這是非常重要、維護公共安全的問題，但是現在想要跟次長討論，我們是不是能夠讓他們儘速得到相關結果？因為我們現在都會將可能進行處分的案件優先處理，可是實際上進入快速通道的大概只有兩百多件，這樣等於平均要等10天，甚至可能會到12天，如果再等更久就會到1個月，等於他就失去了整個月的收入。抱歉，警政署可不可以一起上來？如果有合理的毒駕嫌疑，當然我也完全百分之百同意，但是我們是不是可以評估，將營業車輛、生財工具以及駕駛人是否以此作為主要收入，納入快速尿檢的優先判斷標準呢？如果納入的話，對於我們的檢驗量能會不會造成什麼樣的影響？是不是也可以簡單說明？"],["黃次長謀信：跟委員報告，事實上現在對於擴大檢驗量能，整個行政院團隊都在積極努力。量的部分，我們已經加強，除了現有的機制之外，我們也把北榮、中榮或軍醫院都納入整個檢驗的量能。"],["張委員雅琳：對，是不是可以把以這個為營業工具的這些人，也納入優先檢驗的快速通道呢？是否可以？"],["黃次長謀信：我們現在臺高檢就這個快速通道的部分有一定的基準，在24小時之內就必須要檢驗出來。"],["張委員雅琳：對，因為這些人似乎並沒有被納入，可是這其實對他的生計直接造成影響，而且在被保管的這十多天，他所承受的不利益可能也沒有比一般的強制處分更輕，所以是否可以考量他們這樣的需求？因為這是他的生財工具。"],["黃次長謀信：跟委員報告，這部分可能是道交條例的問題，這個車被扣押，可能是交通部的道交條例去扣這臺車的問題。"],["張委員雅琳：但是快速通道這部分應該還是要由警政署協助嘛，對不對？是不是警政署？"],["李警政委員謀旺：對，我們目前的做法是，如果當事人在現場有異議的話，我們就會啟動綠色通道，幫他……"],["張委員雅琳：你說現場當事人怎麼樣？"],["李警政委員謀旺：我們會看當時的狀況，因為有時候驗，我們也會懷疑是偽陽性嘛！有時候他會主張他根本沒有吸毒，那我們在場的……"],["張委員雅琳：當然，因為可能是藥駕，藥也有可能，之前也有些案例是因為藥駕嘛。"],["李警政委員謀旺：是，所以這部分我們有在注意，當然我們內部有在研議。"],["張委員雅琳：內部在研議是針對……其實我主張的是，如果全部都讓大家各自主張說我很需要這個、說我要很快，當然我覺得這個不可以，應該還是要有一個合理的判斷依據，只是說是不是可以把這些人納入快速檢驗通道？因為這就是他主要的生財工具、他賴以維生的東西，如果他要一直等、一直等、一直等，的確會對他造成影響，而且他可能並不是毒駕。因為這樣的可能性的確是存在的，所以是不是也可以把這部分一併考量？"],["李警政委員謀旺：好的，是。"],["張委員雅琳：大概什麼時候可以給我們一個評估的結果呢？"],["李警政委員謀旺：我想我們內部的一些做法，會後整理之後再送委員的辦公室。"],["張委員雅琳：大概多久時間我們可以來追相關的進度？"],["李警政委員謀旺：我想我們是不是……"],["林副局長故廷：跟委員報告，檢驗的部分是三大機構，剛剛我們次長講的，包括北榮這些，目前衛福部有把它納入，所以快速通道的檢驗是衛福部在主責，先跟委員報告。刑事局是檢驗的三大機構之一，有法醫研究所、調查局還有刑事局，只是三大之一而已。我們只有我們的部分，沒辦法代表其他所有的機關。針對我們的部分，因為是……"],["張委員雅琳：但是誰來判斷他要不要走快速通道？不就是現場的警察嗎？"],["林副局長故廷：像剛剛委員講的，你說計程車的部分，我們會看現場的狀況，比如唾液快篩驗出來是陽性的，現場又查獲毒品，這還需要快速通道嗎？"],["張委員雅琳：這當然是沒有問題啊，我們現在講的都不是這種明確的case嘛！我們今天講的都是他並不是真正持有毒品，他不符合那些要件，不符合要件現在沒有辦法走快速通道，對不對？"],["林副局長故廷：對。"],["張委員雅琳：所以才會想說是不是可以把這些人……"],["林副局長故廷：不是必然可以走快速通道。"],["張委員雅琳：我知道、我知道，我知道他不是必然可以走，但是這些人在不符合要件的狀況之下，他是偽陽性的話，他還是要做尿檢，對不對？"],["林副局長故廷：對。"],["張委員雅琳：流程就是要這樣，誰可以走快速通道，就是警察現場的判斷嘛，對不對？"],["林副局長故廷：我想這個部分牽涉到量能啦！因為行政院現在已經有一個……包括交通部、包括法務部、包括衛福部、包括我們，我們再來提討論。"],["張委員雅琳：對，所以我現在就是要問大概什麼時候可以來追進度，大概什麼時候你們會有個結果？"],["林副局長故廷：我們可以提，但是這個部分是整體行政院的整個團隊要去考量的。"],["張委員雅琳：好，那不然這樣好不好？我簡單做個結論，就1個月之後讓我們知道進度，可以嗎？"],["林副局長故廷：好。"],["張委員雅琳：好，謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝張委員。","接下來有請沈發惠委員發言。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":262,"meet_id":"委員會-11-5-36-26","speakers":["翁曉玲","洪孟楷","陳昭姿","張智倫","林倩綺","林沛祥","張雅琳","沈發惠","范雲","莊瑞雄","許宇甄","李坤城","楊瓊瓔","蔡其昌","吳宗憲","傅崐萁","柯志恩"],"page_start":1,"meetingDate":["2026-07-22"],"gazette_id":"1156502","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1156502_00002"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第5會期司法及法制委員會第26次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"併案審查(一)行政院、司法院函請審議「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、\n(二)委員翁曉玲等17人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(三)委員廖\n先翔等17人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三及第一百八十五條之四條文修正草案」案、\n(四)委員洪孟楷等18人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(五)委員徐\n欣瑩等18人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三及第一百八十五條之四條文修正草案」案、\n(六)委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三及第一百八十五條之四條文修正\n草案」案、(七)委員柯志恩等16人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、\n(八)委員林倩綺等21人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(九)委員邱\n若華等19人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(十)委員萬美玲等19人\n擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三及第一百八十五條之四條文修正草案」案、(十一)委員\n陳亭妃等16人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(十二)委員黃秀芳等\n20人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(十三)委員賴瑞隆等16人擬具\n「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(十四)委員林思銘等21人擬具「中華民\n國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(十五)委員傅崐萁等17人擬具「中華民國刑法第\n一百八十五條之三及第一百八十五條之五條文修正草案」案、(十六)委員陳菁徽等22人擬具「中\n華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(十七)委員張智倫等16人擬具「中華民國刑\n法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(十八)委員徐巧芯等17人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百\n八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(十九)委員邱鎮軍等20人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條\n之三、第一百八十五條之四及第一百八十五條之五條文修正草案」案、(二十)台灣民眾黨黨團擬\n具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(二十一)委員洪孟楷等21人擬具「中\n華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(二十二)委員葉元之等18人擬具「中華民國\n刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(二十三)委員王義川等17人擬具「中華民國刑法第\n一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(二十四)委員賴士葆等25人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八\n十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(二十五)委員涂權吉等19人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條\n之三及第一百八十五條之五條文修正草案」案、(二十六)委員楊瓊瓔等31人擬具「中華民國刑法\n第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(二十七)委員魯明哲等16人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百\n八十五條之三條文修正草案」案、(二十八)委員張嘉郡等21人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五\n條之三條文修正草案」案、(二十九)委員王育敏等19人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三\n條文修正草案」案、(三十)委員黃健豪等17人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正\n草案」案、(三十一)委員王美惠等17人擬具「中華民國刑法第一百八十五條之三條文修正草案」\n案、( 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