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and gentlemen, I would like to invite minister林佳龍。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-22T11:34:55+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-22T11:34:59.500000+08:00","text":"請林部長。","quality":1},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:35:00+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:35:04+08:00","text":"Long time to see.","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:35:04.300000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:35:09.442857+08:00","text":"Yes, nice to meet you.","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:35:09.742857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:35:51.171429+08:00","text":"Working for Taiwan as a foreign-affair minister is a heavy and demanding work, but you  are the only appropriate and capable person in the ruling party that can do it for Taiwan.","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:35:51.471429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:35:54.042857+08:00","text":"Thank 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Today I have two small questions for you. The first question：as you already know, in 1979, there was a Sino-Vietnamese War, the three main reasons for that war, the first is the 1969 to 1978 Vietnamese close ally with the Soviet Union. You already know that.","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:37:30.671429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:37:31.814286+08:00","text":"Yes.","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:37:32.114286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:38:22.685714+08:00","text":"The second reason is the 1978 Vietnamese overthrow of Chinese ally in Cambodia which is the only ally in Indochina Peninsula of China at that time, so, China was so angry at that time. Do you know there are the third cause？","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:38:22.985714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:38:27.557143+08:00","text":"I am all ears.（我正在聆聽）。","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:38:27.857143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:38:33.571429+08:00","text":"The third reason is what？","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:38:33.871429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:38:37.300000+08:00","text":"Please, yeah.","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:38:37.600000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:40:37.885714+08:00","text":"OK. The sovereignty dispute over Paracel archipelago（西沙）and the Spratly Islands（南沙）. Vietnam claimed sovereignty over these two archipelagoes, but China said they belongs to China, so there is the third cause. So, my second question for you：2016, 2025, according to this map, the last one, the former one, from this map you can see, also from 2016 to 2025, there was a widespread deployment of drones by China in the South China Sea, and 2016 is also the year, South China Sea Arbitration Award was made, the same year 2016.What does it mean？","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:40:38.185714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:40:41.042857+08:00","text":"委員，我還是用中文回答。","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:40:41.342857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:40:43.342857+08:00","text":"Please.","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:40:43.642857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:40:45.928571+08:00","text":"因為立法院要記錄。","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:40:46.228571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:40:54.800000+08:00","text":"You can even answer me in Taiwanese.","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:40:55.100000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:40:57.385714+08:00","text":"也可以用臺語溝通？","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:40:57.685714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:40:58.828571+08:00","text":"Yes.","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:40:59.128571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:41:22.271429+08:00","text":"當然委員所提，中國對南海主權的宣示與許多國家引發衝突，因為聲索國很多，包括跟越南之間，至於無人機，因為現在中國對我們包括東沙島、太平島，其實都會常常侵入這些領空或者是我們的領海。","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:41:22.571429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:42:20.571429+08:00","text":"You are right. From 2016, that is the year that the Arbitration Award was made, the same year. Is it a coincidence by chance?No coincidence by chance. It means China does not care about this Arbitration Award and decided to use military force, right？對。","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:42:20.871429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:42:45.157143+08:00","text":"Yes. So is it a chance for Taiwan to strengthen our relations with Vietnam?That is a good chance, right？","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:42:45.457143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:42:46.600000+08:00","text":"Yes.","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:42:46.900000+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:42:52.614286+08:00","text":"What is the progress now？","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:42:52.914286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:42:59.771429+08:00","text":"our relations with Vietnam.","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:43:00.071429+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:43:32.357143+08:00","text":"報告委員，因為越南是竹子外交，所以他確實……當然跟中國因為緊鄰也有很多的關係，但是在歷史上他們都是在打仗的，而且越南還都打贏了，所以現在就是美國跟越南的關係，大家都知道尤其是供應鏈重組，所以越南在美中之間到底他的竹子外交要如何發展，我們都密切關注。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:43:32.657143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:43:50.942857+08:00","text":"但我們在越南因為有非常緊密的關係，包括投資及移民來臺灣的這些新住民或者是移工，也包括觀光旅遊，所以是相當全面性的，我是非常重視臺越的關係。","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:43:51.242857+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:43:55.814286+08:00","text":"Yes, you are right.","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:43:56.114286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:44:05.828571+08:00","text":"因為某個程度來講，他不可能像有些國家那樣完全附從於中國，他有外交的自主性。","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:44:06.128571+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:45:07.557143+08:00","text":"Yes, you are right, totally right. The only country in the world that has defeated the United States and China is Vietnam, so I respect this country so much. We need to use this opportunity to strengthen our relations with Vietnam. That is one of our security.對。","quality":0},{"speaker":"許委員忠信","start":"2026-07-22T11:45:07.857143+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:45:14.714286+08:00","text":"Yes. OK. Thank you very much.","quality":0},{"speaker":"林部長佳龍","start":"2026-07-22T11:45:15.014286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:45:17.585714+08:00","text":"Thank you.","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-22T11:45:17.885714+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:45:19.314286+08:00","text":"謝謝許委員。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-22T11:45:19.614286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-22T11:45:23.900000+08:00","text":"我們接下來請鄭正鈐委員上臺質詢。","quality":0}]},"gazette":{"lineno":618,"blocks":[["許委員忠信：（11時34分）Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to invite minister林佳龍。"],["主席：請林部長。"],["許委員忠信：Long time to see."],["林部長佳龍：Yes, nice to meet you."],["許委員忠信：Working for Taiwan as a foreign-affair minister is a heavy and demanding work, but you  are the only appropriate and capable person in the ruling party that can do it for Taiwan."],["林部長佳龍：Thank you."],["許委員忠信：I would like to support you one hundred percent because…"],["林部長佳龍：My honor."],["許委員忠信：In terms of foreign affairs, Taiwan is one, so I will support you one hundred percent, no problem. Today I have two small questions for you. The first question：as you already know, in 1979, there was a Sino-Vietnamese War, the three main reasons for that war, the first is the 1969 to 1978 Vietnamese close ally with the Soviet Union. You already know that."],["林部長佳龍：Yes."],["許委員忠信：The second reason is the 1978 Vietnamese overthrow of Chinese ally in Cambodia which is the only ally in Indochina Peninsula of China at that time, so, China was so angry at that time. Do you know there are the third cause？"],["林部長佳龍：I am all ears.（我正在聆聽）。"],["許委員忠信：The third reason is what？"],["林部長佳龍：Please, yeah."],["許委員忠信：OK. The sovereignty dispute over Paracel archipelago（西沙）and the Spratly Islands（南沙）. Vietnam claimed sovereignty over these two archipelagoes, but China said they belongs to China, so there is the third cause. So, my second question for you：2016, 2025, according to this map, the last one, the former one, from this map you can see, also from 2016 to 2025, there was a widespread deployment of drones by China in the South China Sea, and 2016 is also the year, South China Sea Arbitration Award was made, the same year 2016.What does it mean？"],["林部長佳龍：委員，我還是用中文回答。"],["許委員忠信：Please."],["林部長佳龍：因為立法院要記錄。"],["許委員忠信：You can even answer me in Taiwanese."],["林部長佳龍：也可以用臺語溝通？"],["許委員忠信：Yes."],["林部長佳龍：當然委員所提，中國對南海主權的宣示與許多國家引發衝突，因為聲索國很多，包括跟越南之間，至於無人機，因為現在中國對我們包括東沙島、太平島，其實都會常常侵入這些領空或者是我們的領海。"],["許委員忠信：You are right. From 2016, that is the year that the Arbitration Award was made, the same year. Is it a coincidence by chance?No coincidence by chance. It means China does not care about this Arbitration Award and decided to use military force, right？"],["林部長佳龍：對。"],["許委員忠信：Yes. So is it a chance for Taiwan to strengthen our relations with Vietnam?That is a good chance, right？"],["林部長佳龍：Yes."],["許委員忠信：What is the progress now？our relations with Vietnam."],["林部長佳龍：報告委員，因為越南是竹子外交，所以他確實……當然跟中國因為緊鄰也有很多的關係，但是在歷史上他們都是在打仗的，而且越南還都打贏了，所以現在就是美國跟越南的關係，大家都知道尤其是供應鏈重組，所以越南在美中之間到底他的竹子外交要如何發展，我們都密切關注。但我們在越南因為有非常緊密的關係，包括投資及移民來臺灣的這些新住民或者是移工，也包括觀光旅遊，所以是相當全面性的，我是非常重視臺越的關係。"],["許委員忠信：Yes, you are right."],["林部長佳龍：因為某個程度來講，他不可能像有些國家那樣完全附從於中國，他有外交的自主性。"],["許委員忠信：Yes, you are right, totally right. The only country in the world that has defeated the United States and China is Vietnam, so I respect this country so much. We need to use this opportunity to strengthen our relations with Vietnam. That is one of our security."],["林部長佳龍：對。"],["許委員忠信：Yes. OK. Thank you very much."],["林部長佳龍：Thank you."],["主席：謝謝許委員。","我們接下來請鄭正鈐委員上臺質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":202,"meet_id":"委員會-11-5-35-28","speakers":["馬文君","陳俊宇","羅美玲","陳永康","王義川","林楚茵","黃建賓","王安祥","徐巧芯","牛煦庭","賴士葆","鍾佳濱","許忠信","鄭正鈐","林倩綺","楊瓊瓔","陳冠廷","黃仁","沈伯洋"],"page_start":151,"meetingDate":["2026-07-22"],"gazette_id":"1156601","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1156601_00007"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第5會期外交及國防委員會第28次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"邀請外交部部長林佳龍報告「我國近年針對南海主權與法律地位之國際宣傳實績成效暨如何應對\n周邊國家擴大主權國際宣傳之具體反制策略」，併請海洋委員會、大陸委員會列席，並備質詢","agenda_id":"1156601_00015"}}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}