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有爭議的就是要交付給國防委員來主審"},{"start":39,"end":43,"text":"但是最後依在野黨的多數交付給經濟委員來主審"},{"start":43,"end":48,"text":"但是很有趣的,首先在野黨推薦的委員都是軍方的代表"},{"start":48,"end":53,"text":"但是此刻在群賢101有產業界的代表"},{"start":53,"end":60,"text":"他們因為今天不是發言人專家學者,可是他們很關心可以看到我們全場的轉播實況"},{"start":60,"end":63,"text":"除了這些產業界在看之外,還有誰在看呢?"},{"start":63,"end":70,"text":"還有的就是下一頁,無人載具的預算動向,投資大眾都在看"},{"start":70,"end":77,"text":"恐怕這最近將近半個月以來,台灣社會最關注的新聞不見得是無人機專法"},{"start":77,"end":79,"text":"而是我們的股市的行情"},{"start":79,"end":82,"text":"可是當中牽動的產業新聞的是什麼?"},{"start":82,"end":88,"text":"首先在1月20號,行政院編了1.25兆國防任性特別預算之後"},{"start":88,"end":91,"text":"儘管有在野黨質疑特別預算的必要性"},{"start":91,"end":96,"text":"剛剛的發言代表也有說,現在國家有遇到戰爭的威脅嗎?"},{"start":96,"end":99,"text":"需要緊急的編列特別預算嗎?這樣是不是在留子孫呢?"},{"start":99,"end":108,"text":"但是事實上最後,這樣的一個特別預算還是在5月8號的時候"},{"start":108,"end":115,"text":"在野黨要求要刪掉4700億,4700億後還是通過了"},{"start":115,"end":120,"text":"我要強調一次,儘管在野黨的主張是認為不應該編列特別預算"},{"start":120,"end":126,"text":"不應該在留子孫,並沒有迫切的需要,但是還是通過了,但是砍了4700億"},{"start":126,"end":130,"text":"當時我們看一下,在行政院發表1.25兆的時候"},{"start":130,"end":134,"text":"相關國內的無人載具軍工股就急急漲停,收紅"},{"start":134,"end":140,"text":"但是當5月8號,在野黨多數刪減了4700億"},{"start":140,"end":147,"text":"全部的無人載具預算砍光之後,無人載具的概念股就集體鐵停收黑"},{"start":147,"end":150,"text":"但是到了6月18號,行政院再接再厲"},{"start":150,"end":155,"text":"又提出了2100億要採購三型的無人載具"},{"start":155,"end":160,"text":"這時候在四天後,我們看到無人載具概念股又多加漲停收紅"},{"start":161,"end":168,"text":"然而就在前天,我們看到國民黨提案要統三行政院"},{"start":168,"end":175,"text":"行政院六年計畫當中,統籌型的440億無人載具的預算之後"},{"start":175,"end":181,"text":"就在昨天7月22號,無人機的概念股又急停,跌停收黑"},{"start":181,"end":184,"text":"難不成在野黨是有人在炒股嗎?"},{"start":184,"end":188,"text":"要放空無人機產業相關的產業嗎?"},{"start":188,"end":194,"text":"我很懷疑,但是不應該為了政黨利益、政治惡鬥、破壞產業發展"},{"start":194,"end":198,"text":"還有相關台灣社會投資大眾的權益,我們往下看"},{"start":198,"end":203,"text":"好,那我們先探探到底這個2100億的行政院版"},{"start":203,"end":207,"text":"跟國民黨版的2400億差別在哪裡?"},{"start":207,"end":214,"text":"我們打個比方好了,父母給孩子求學中的孩子每個月1萬塊的生活費"},{"start":214,"end":219,"text":"孩子問爸爸媽媽說,哎呀,我需要電腦打報告,大概需要3萬塊"},{"start":219,"end":224,"text":"父母說,好啊,我給你買好一點的,給你4萬塊的預算"},{"start":224,"end":228,"text":"但是接下來又告訴你說,接下來每個月的生活費5千塊"},{"start":228,"end":233,"text":"你分8個月存起來就可以買了,這不是笑話嗎?"},{"start":233,"end":238,"text":"行政院表達我們需要2100億額外的特別預算"},{"start":238,"end":243,"text":"在年度預算之外,要2100億的特別預算"},{"start":243,"end":249,"text":"國民黨團很慷慨,說2100億太少了,我給你2400億"},{"start":249,"end":254,"text":"但是分6年,每年的從你的年度預算扣400億下來發展"},{"start":254,"end":261,"text":"這個叫做明給止砍,有給的更多嗎?沒有"},{"start":261,"end":266,"text":"哪一個父母告訴你孩子這樣的話,一定是被他笑死,往下看"},{"start":266,"end":270,"text":"所以說國民黨版的年度預算看得到吃不到"},{"start":270,"end":276,"text":"我們看到最近的媒體報導,產業說什麼?需要可預期的國家資源"},{"start":276,"end":280,"text":"很多產業在初期發展的時候,為什麼軍工產業"},{"start":280,"end":286,"text":"因為民間多數不會採購,一定是靠國家的採購來支持"},{"start":286,"end":289,"text":"試想目前我們看到無人載具的最大應用是在哪裡?"},{"start":289,"end":295,"text":"是在噴農藥嗎?是在空拍嗎?是在海上救援嗎?錯"},{"start":295,"end":298,"text":"現在台灣跟世界各地大家看到無人載具最大應用"},{"start":298,"end":305,"text":"就是在二戰爭的戰場上,看到了無人機大量的減少守方的人員傷亡"},{"start":305,"end":312,"text":"它用不對稱的戰役方式,造成了給侵略者非常大的一個制衡"},{"start":312,"end":317,"text":"我們看到烏克蘭的無人機飛越一兩千公里去轟炸俄羅斯"},{"start":317,"end":320,"text":"包括西伯利亞的煉油廠,告訴侵略者"},{"start":320,"end":325,"text":"侵略者不能憑藉你的人多,不能憑藉你的炮火力,犀利"},{"start":325,"end":328,"text":"你就可以任意的去欺負鄰居"},{"start":328,"end":333,"text":"台灣跟其他民主國家需要這樣的方式來告訴全世界"},{"start":333,"end":337,"text":"這些野心的侵略國家不可輕舉妄動"},{"start":337,"end":344,"text":"結果我們看到國民黨的預算,年年拖啊,去年也拖,今年也拖"},{"start":344,"end":349,"text":"我們行政院在依憲法有法定預算的編制權"},{"start":349,"end":352,"text":"送到立法院,立法院當然可以審查"},{"start":352,"end":354,"text":"認為太多當然可以砍"},{"start":354,"end":358,"text":"但是沒有荒唐到說今年的預算到現在快八月了"},{"start":358,"end":360,"text":"立法院還沒有完成審查"},{"start":360,"end":363,"text":"這是破天荒的憲政恥辱"},{"start":363,"end":366,"text":"立法院的多數應該要來面對,往下看"},{"start":366,"end":368,"text":"所以我們再來看"},{"start":368,"end":371,"text":"好,所以兩手策略先砍再補償啊"},{"start":371,"end":374,"text":"對不起,上一頁,第五頁"},{"start":374,"end":377,"text":"所以國民黨,對不起再往上跳"},{"start":377,"end":384,"text":"好,我們看到了這是國民黨目前提出來的2400億6年的年度預算"},{"start":384,"end":385,"text":"好,往下看"},{"start":385,"end":388,"text":"但是現在就在前天剛剛說了"},{"start":388,"end":395,"text":"442億無人載具的統籌型計畫分在未來的六年要執行的"},{"start":395,"end":401,"text":"國民黨黨團已經先放話,說要通通刪掉"},{"start":401,"end":406,"text":"那結果呢,先刪1.25兆當中的4700億"},{"start":406,"end":410,"text":"在喊停6年的無人載具產業發展統籌型計畫"},{"start":410,"end":415,"text":"立法院不是用預算權,在預算審查的時候進行刪除"},{"start":415,"end":421,"text":"而是透過憲政機關目前他對立法院有載製的多數"},{"start":421,"end":424,"text":"他先放話,恐嚇行政權"},{"start":424,"end":427,"text":"這不是憲政機關應有的作為,往下看"},{"start":427,"end":432,"text":"所以在這之後,社會集體反彈,業者反彈,民眾很疑惑"},{"start":432,"end":437,"text":"難道國民黨是希望年輕人上戰場,還是無人機上戰場"},{"start":437,"end":441,"text":"結果就有賴斯堡委員得到43個連署"},{"start":441,"end":447,"text":"所以我們合理的認為,賴斯堡委員的提案是代表著國民黨的留一手"},{"start":447,"end":452,"text":"他說我砍了你4700億,我又否定了你的442億"},{"start":452,"end":454,"text":"我會補給你500億"},{"start":454,"end":457,"text":"什麼方式?特別預算"},{"start":457,"end":461,"text":"國民黨不是口口聲聲說,在預算說特別預算不需要嗎?"},{"start":461,"end":464,"text":"是債留子孫嗎?現在他也說了500億可以啊"},{"start":464,"end":469,"text":"2000億是債留子孫,500億是什麼?500億是給你棒棒糖安慰你啊"},{"start":469,"end":473,"text":"所以我們看到了,先砍國防部2100億,又給經濟部2400億"},{"start":473,"end":478,"text":"然後呢,現在統三442億,現在又提案要給500億"},{"start":478,"end":482,"text":"剛剛有發言的專家說,我們看到的是行政院版"},{"start":482,"end":485,"text":"他可能沒有看到有賴斯堡的版本"},{"start":485,"end":489,"text":"賴斯堡的版本,連署的都是國民黨的委員,往下看"},{"start":489,"end":493,"text":"所以我們很清楚的要告訴我們的社會大眾"},{"start":493,"end":496,"text":"其實目前,對不起"},{"start":496,"end":501,"text":"我們是支持行政院版的自主無人載具採購特別條例"},{"start":501,"end":503,"text":"以特別預算的方式編列後事國防"},{"start":503,"end":506,"text":"我們對於在野黨兩手策略的年度預算"},{"start":506,"end":509,"text":"化蛇添足,看到到吃不到,先砍再補,杯水車薪"},{"start":509,"end":512,"text":"唐薩外界的質疑"},{"start":512,"end":514,"text":"接下來呢,我要說明的"},{"start":514,"end":519,"text":"在昨天已經通過院會交付本委員審查的四個版本當中"},{"start":519,"end":522,"text":"包括本席的版本"},{"start":522,"end":529,"text":"其實當中,除了也是參照行政院2100億的特別預算額度之外"},{"start":529,"end":532,"text":"這裡呢,回應剛剛有學者專家提出來的"},{"start":532,"end":535,"text":"有沒有包含產業發展的部分,有的"},{"start":535,"end":537,"text":"有的,有的"},{"start":537,"end":540,"text":"我們的版本有包含產業發展的部分"},{"start":540,"end":544,"text":"那麼關於到這裡面,有一些有提到說"},{"start":544,"end":548,"text":"如果現在國防採購有弊案,有廠商不無資格"},{"start":548,"end":552,"text":"有依條約不能履約"},{"start":552,"end":554,"text":"那我們很好奇啊"},{"start":554,"end":558,"text":"最近媒體報導上看到的什麼馬桶製造商啊"},{"start":558,"end":560,"text":"可以來賣炸藥啦"},{"start":560,"end":562,"text":"這樣的一個形容充斥著在野黨的言論"},{"start":562,"end":564,"text":"但是我們看到背後是什麼"},{"start":564,"end":568,"text":"不要的是假質詢之名,行破壞之實"},{"start":568,"end":571,"text":"台灣的國防採購非常的辛苦"},{"start":571,"end":574,"text":"在國際市場上要突破中共的打壓"},{"start":574,"end":578,"text":"取得這些供應商他們難得的供應的來源"},{"start":578,"end":580,"text":"往往要透過不同的管道"},{"start":580,"end":585,"text":"更何況,如果用這種廠商資格來質疑採購的正當性"},{"start":585,"end":587,"text":"跟他的供應的能力的話"},{"start":587,"end":590,"text":"現在我們看到的無人載具的產業"},{"start":590,"end":594,"text":"哪一個是向美國傳統的軍工大廠所提供的"},{"start":594,"end":596,"text":"都是新創公司"},{"start":596,"end":599,"text":"而且迭代更新提到反制無人機"},{"start":599,"end":601,"text":"其實這是台灣更重要的事情"},{"start":601,"end":604,"text":"反制無人機這種當然還在發展中"},{"start":604,"end":607,"text":"就是因為在發展中能夠先取得的國家"},{"start":607,"end":610,"text":"才能夠在未來面對對方用無人機來攻擊"},{"start":610,"end":614,"text":"我們才有防禦上的這樣的可行性"},{"start":614,"end":617,"text":"所以現在的軍工產業國防採購"},{"start":617,"end":623,"text":"不是在產購成熟的高大富的傳統軍備"},{"start":623,"end":627,"text":"我們要投資未來型的防衛性的武器"},{"start":627,"end":629,"text":"就是無人載具"},{"start":629,"end":633,"text":"希望我們在野黨的朋友能夠秉持國家利益優先"},{"start":633,"end":637,"text":"能夠來支持行政院版的2100億特別預算"},{"start":637,"end":638,"text":"謝謝"}]}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}