{"error":false,"id":["170712"],"data":{"IVOD_ID":170712,"IVOD_URL":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/170712","日期":"2026-07-24","會議資料":{"會議代碼":"院會-11-5-19","會議代碼:str":"第11屆第5會期第19次會議","屆":11,"會期":5,"會次":19,"臨時會會次":null,"種類":"院會","標題":"第11屆第5會期第19次會議"},"影片種類":"Clip","開始時間":"2026-07-24T16:22:12+08:00","結束時間":"2026-07-24T16:24:26+08:00","影片長度":"00:02:14","支援功能":["ai-transcript","gazette"],"video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e8f3734904ec355004d16a929431de8e00321a5c2e792cdf858b84824fc03604ceb4dfd8bc894f5d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"林俊憲","委員發言時間":"16:22:12 - 16:24:26","會議時間":"2026-07-24T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"第11屆第5會期第19次會議（事由：討論事項：本院國民黨黨團，建請院會作成決議：「針對『中聯油脂致癌毒油襲台』連環爆事件，國人迄今看不到真相，政府企圖蓋牌，並意欲甩鍋地方政府，爰要求賴卓政府比照103年頂新油事件標準儘速處理，未全面查明流向與真相前，不得讓問題油品重新上架，以安民心，並儘速建立退貨及補償機制。」是否有當？請公決案等6案。）","transcript":{"pyannote":[{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":0.03096875,"end":1.43159375,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":2.0222187500000004,"end":4.31721875,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":4.890968750000001,"end":7.72596875,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":8.35034375,"end":10.965968750000002,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":11.489093750000002,"end":19.133468750000002,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":19.67346875,"end":20.73659375,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":21.74909375,"end":33.05534375,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":34.05096875,"end":35.21534375,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":36.31221875,"end":37.52721875,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":37.814093750000005,"end":39.04596875,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":39.33284375,"end":47.095343750000005,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":47.70284375,"end":49.86284375,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":50.774093750000006,"end":52.95096875,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":53.102843750000005,"end":55.110968750000005,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":55.853468750000005,"end":56.64659375,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":57.18659375,"end":60.30846875,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":60.98346875,"end":61.67534375,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":62.24909375,"end":64.67909375,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":65.52284375,"end":68.45909375000001,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":68.99909375,"end":73.63971875,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":74.51721875,"end":77.68971875000001,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":77.97659375,"end":81.08159375000001,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":81.62159375,"end":84.70971875000001,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":85.67159375,"end":92.01659375000001,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":92.48909375000001,"end":94.04159375,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":94.64909375,"end":99.03659375000001,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":99.28971875,"end":101.34846875000001,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":102.12471875,"end":103.64346875000001,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":104.06534375000001,"end":105.38159375000001,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":105.73596875000001,"end":107.60909375,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":108.36846875,"end":111.05159375000001,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":111.13596875,"end":113.65034375,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":113.83596875,"end":114.35909375000001,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":114.67971875,"end":116.09721875000001,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":116.29971875000001,"end":120.45096875,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":127.42034375000001,"end":129.88409375,"speaker_score":1},{"speaker":"SPEAKER_00","speaker_name":"林委員俊憲","start":130.08659375000002,"end":133.05659375000002,"speaker_score":1}],"whisperx":[{"start":0,"end":2,"text":"大家都有共識"},{"start":2,"end":5,"text":"像這樣的民生法案"},{"start":5,"end":8,"text":"其實應該要到委員會來討論"},{"start":8,"end":11,"text":"連這樣子的民生法案都要禁賦惡毒"},{"start":11,"end":13,"text":"你現在沒有到委員會"},{"start":13,"end":16,"text":"沒有經過專業 沒有聽取各方的意見"},{"start":16,"end":19,"text":"修法就會出問題"},{"start":19,"end":21,"text":"像這一次啊"},{"start":21,"end":24,"text":"民眾黨提出來的電信化契約"},{"start":24,"end":26,"text":"交通部已經公告了"},{"start":26,"end":29,"text":"道路脫臼服務電信化契約"},{"start":29,"end":31,"text":"因記載及不得記載事項"},{"start":31,"end":33,"text":"電信化契約已經有了"},{"start":33,"end":35,"text":"那我們現在"},{"start":35,"end":39,"text":"你把所有的權利都歸給中央"},{"start":39,"end":42,"text":"你失去了地方因地制宜"},{"start":42,"end":44,"text":"你叫中央怎麼去訂"},{"start":44,"end":47,"text":"每一個縣市一公里的脫掉價格"},{"start":47,"end":50,"text":"台北市跟苗栗縣會一樣嗎"},{"start":50,"end":53,"text":"那你這樣訂起來以後實施下去"},{"start":53,"end":55,"text":"絕對會出問題"},{"start":55,"end":57,"text":"同時啊"},{"start":57,"end":61,"text":"如果有發生的校位糾紛"},{"start":61,"end":65,"text":"其實應該要回歸到消保法"},{"start":65,"end":67,"text":"那麼在過去啊"},{"start":67,"end":69,"text":"你像鐵路法"},{"start":69,"end":74,"text":"他也沒有把校位糾紛寫到鐵路法裡面來"},{"start":74,"end":78,"text":"你現在公路法把電信化契約寫到公路法來"},{"start":78,"end":83,"text":"萬一以後電信化契約如果出現問題了"},{"start":83,"end":85,"text":"你又要再修法"},{"start":85,"end":89,"text":"所以我覺得這樣的一個法案不是不能討論"},{"start":89,"end":92,"text":"大家其實差異性非常小"},{"start":92,"end":94,"text":"為什麼一定要禁賦惡毒"},{"start":94,"end":96,"text":"我覺得就是要搶空了"},{"start":96,"end":98,"text":"你說你多數表決"},{"start":98,"end":100,"text":"然後好像就是你這個問題"},{"start":100,"end":102,"text":"只有你在一黨在關心"},{"start":102,"end":108,"text":"其實現在國道跟省道幾乎沒有脫掉蟑螂"},{"start":108,"end":111,"text":"因為中央公務局還有國道"},{"start":111,"end":113,"text":"都把省道還有國道"},{"start":113,"end":116,"text":"都有非常完善的一個管理"},{"start":116,"end":118,"text":"你現在會聽到有脫掉蟑螂"},{"start":118,"end":120,"text":"弄出現在縣市的道"},{"start":127,"end":129,"text":"好 謝謝林靜謝委員的發言"},{"start":129,"end":130,"text":"謝謝"},{"start":130,"end":133,"text":"接下來登記最後一位委員黃建豪委員請發言"}],"gazette":[{"speaker":"林委員俊憲","start":"2026-07-24T16:22:12+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-24T16:22:13+08:00","text":"謝謝。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員俊憲","start":"2026-07-24T16:22:13+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-24T16:22:14+08:00","text":"主席、各位同仁。","quality":0},{"speaker":"林委員俊憲","start":"2026-07-24T16:22:12+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-24T16:22:30.571429+08:00","text":"要消除拖吊蟑螂，大家都有共識，像這樣的民生法案，其實應該要到委員會來討論，連這樣子的民生法案都要逕付二讀，現在沒有送到委員會，沒有經過專業評估，也沒有聽取各方意見，修法就會出問題。","quality":0.815},{"speaker":"林委員俊憲","start":"2026-07-24T16:22:31+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-24T16:23:01.727273+08:00","text":"像這一次民眾黨提出來的定型化契約，交通部已經公告「道路拖吊服務定型化契約應記載及不得記載事項」，定型化契約已經有了，那現在你把所有的權力都歸給中央，失去了地方因地制宜，你叫中央怎麼去定每一個縣市一公里的拖吊價格，臺北市跟苗栗縣會一樣嗎？","quality":0.881},{"speaker":"林委員俊憲","start":"2026-07-24T16:23:02+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-24T16:23:06.666667+08:00","text":"那你這樣定起來，以後實施下去絕對會出問題。","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"林委員俊憲","start":"2026-07-24T16:23:07+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-24T16:23:36.666667+08:00","text":"同時，如果有發生消費糾紛，其實應該要回歸到消保法，在過去像鐵路法，它也沒有把消費糾紛寫到鐵路法裡面來，現在公路法把定型化契約寫到公路法來，萬一以後定型化契約如果出現問題了，變成還要再修法。","quality":0.86},{"speaker":"林委員俊憲","start":"2026-07-24T16:23:37.444444+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-24T16:23:45+08:00","text":"我覺得這樣的法案不是不能討論，其實大家的差異性非常小，為什麼一定要逕付二讀？","quality":0.8},{"speaker":"林委員俊憲","start":"2026-07-24T16:23:46+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-24T16:23:53.777778+08:00","text":"我覺得就是要搶功勞，你用多數表決，然後好像這個問題只有你在野黨在關心。","quality":0.875},{"speaker":"林委員俊憲","start":"2026-07-24T16:23:54+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-24T16:24:19+08:00","text":"其實現在國道跟省道幾乎沒有拖吊蟑螂，因為中央公路局把省道和國道管理得非常完善，現在會聽到有拖吊蟑螂都是出現在縣市的道路，所以應該要把這個部分改善就好，拿來這裡表決浪費大家的時間。謝謝。","quality":0.535},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-24T16:24:19.181818+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-24T16:24:21.500000+08:00","text":"謝謝林俊憲委員的發言，謝謝。","quality":0.833},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-24T16:24:22+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-24T16:24:24.842105+08:00","text":"接下來登記最後一位黃健豪委員，請發言。","quality":0.941}]},"gazette":{"lineno":992,"blocks":[["林委員俊憲：（16時22分）謝謝。主席、各位同仁。要消除拖吊蟑螂，大家都有共識，像這樣的民生法案，其實應該要到委員會來討論，連這樣子的民生法案都要逕付二讀，現在沒有送到委員會，沒有經過專業評估，也沒有聽取各方意見，修法就會出問題。像這一次民眾黨提出來的定型化契約，交通部已經公告「道路拖吊服務定型化契約應記載及不得記載事項」，定型化契約已經有了，那現在你把所有的權力都歸給中央，失去了地方因地制宜，你叫中央怎麼去定每一個縣市一公里的拖吊價格，臺北市跟苗栗縣會一樣嗎？那你這樣定起來，以後實施下去絕對會出問題。","同時，如果有發生消費糾紛，其實應該要回歸到消保法，在過去像鐵路法，它也沒有把消費糾紛寫到鐵路法裡面來，現在公路法把定型化契約寫到公路法來，萬一以後定型化契約如果出現問題了，變成還要再修法。我覺得這樣的法案不是不能討論，其實大家的差異性非常小，為什麼一定要逕付二讀？我覺得就是要搶功勞，你用多數表決，然後好像這個問題只有你在野黨在關心。","其實現在國道跟省道幾乎沒有拖吊蟑螂，因為中央公路局把省道和國道管理得非常完善，現在會聽到有拖吊蟑螂都是出現在縣市的道路，所以應該要把這個部分改善就好，拿來這裡表決浪費大家的時間。謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝林俊憲委員的發言，謝謝。","接下來登記最後一位黃健豪委員，請發言。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":95,"meet_id":"院會-11-5-19","speakers":["韓國瑜","陳菁徽","邱慧洳","范雲"],"page_start":24,"meetingDate":["2026-07-24"],"gazette_id":"1156201","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1156201_00002","1156201_00003"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第5會期第19次會議紀錄","content":"討論事項\n臺灣兒少成長及未來帳戶條例─完成三讀─","agenda_id":"1156201_00003"}}},"supported_relations":[],"relations":[]}