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TN跟美方都會持續在協商過程。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-07-29T10:42:24.500000+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T10:42:25.750000+08:00","text":"這個也會影響啊！","quality":0.857},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-07-29T10:42:28.222222+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T10:42:31.909091+08:00","text":"你們有沒有掌握到底這兩者有沒有關係，還是就脫鉤了？","quality":0.913},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-07-29T10:42:32.090909+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T10:42:36.833333+08:00","text":"汽車零組件反正就是適用232，跟301調查就沒有關係？","quality":0.947},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-07-29T10:42:37+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T10:42:43.800000+08:00","text":"我想在談判過程當中也許都會提到，但是這個部分我們並不確定，因為是OTN在談判的。","quality":1},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-07-29T10:42:44+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T10:42:58.714286+08:00","text":"好，反正確定的是，只要ART確定之後送來立法院，美國輸到臺灣的汽車零組件及美國製造的車，關稅就是零嘛！","quality":0.957},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-07-29T10:42:58.714286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-29T10:42:59.714286+08:00","text":"是，這是大家都知道的事。","quality":0},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-07-29T10:42:59+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T10:43:04.846154+08:00","text":"這就是確定的事情，只是不知道哪時候ART可以跟美國談完就對了？","quality":1},{"speaker":"莊部長翠雲","start":"2026-07-29T10:43:05+08:00","guessed":false,"end":"2026-07-29T10:43:08.714286+08:00","text":"對，法源依據確認以後，送大院審議通過。","quality":0.812},{"speaker":"李委員坤城","start":"2026-07-29T10:43:09.214286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-29T10:43:11.214286+08:00","text":"好，OK，謝謝。謝謝。","quality":0.286},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-29T10:43:11.514286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-29T10:43:15.514286+08:00","text":"謝謝，我們結束李坤城委員的質詢。","quality":0},{"speaker":"主席","start":"2026-07-29T10:43:15.814286+08:00","guessed":true,"end":"2026-07-29T10:43:18.385714+08:00","text":"接下來請林思銘委員。","quality":0}]},"gazette":{"lineno":386,"blocks":[["李委員坤城：（10時32分）謝謝主席，我們請莊部長。"],["主席：請莊部長。"],["莊部長翠雲：委員好。"],["李委員坤城：部長好。請教一下部長，今年2月份時，我們的行政院副院長鄭麗君有提到，我們已經跟美方達成臺美對等貿易協定（ART），那時候也講了，未來美規的小客車關稅會降到零，保留中小貨車維持一定關稅，以確保軍工韌性，所以在2月份就有提到未來美規小客車的關稅會降到零，可是他也提到還要等到美方完成301調查，因為後來對等關稅就有問題了，到5月份的時候，副院長又講到要等到美方完成301調查，那時候是說大概要到7月底，臺美的ART確定取得優惠待遇之後，連同MOU送國會審查。在ART生效後，美國進口汽車就零關稅，配合相關的修法，就是我們今天講的海關稅則相關的法，有可能會到零，這是到7月底。","在前幾天、上個禮拜，7月24號美國按照301條款也調查出來了，臺灣取得10%且不疊加MFN稅率，臺灣享有豁免的清單，在這個豁免清單裡面，因為在他們的調查當中，我們取得了10%且不疊加最惠國（MFN）優惠稅率，我們臺灣的汽車零組件、工具機等傳統產業的稅率比日本、韓國都還要好，既然談判結果是這樣，有給就有拿嘛，我們在汽車零組件、工具機等等拿到10%的優惠稅率，是不是我們也要有一個對等的承諾，至少在汽車零組件的部分，我們的關稅也要把它調成零？"],["莊部長翠雲：委員，我想這個部分是不是我們分開來談？我們跟美方之間簽的ART是我們雙邊的談判協定，當時ART是在美方貿易法的法源之下，就是所謂的國際緊急經濟權力法（IEEPA）的部分，他們的最高法院已經判定不能作為工具，所以後來就開始用122條款課10%的稅，122條款的臨時課徵稅在7月24號屆至以後，接下來301調查出來了，也就是所謂的禁止強迫勞動產品進口，這個調查出來，臺灣獲得了10%的稅率，而且不疊加……"],["李委員坤城：就是含汽車零組件嘛，對不對？"],["莊部長翠雲：汽車零組件是細項的部分……"],["李委員坤城：有沒有含汽車零組件？"],["莊部長翠雲：就是我們出口的部分……"],["李委員坤城：有啊，這應該是含我們出口的部分。"],["莊部長翠雲：另外還有兩千多項產品的豁免，所謂的10%是輸美到美國去的關稅稅率。"],["李委員坤城：對，就是有含汽車零組件嘛，對不對？","請問經濟部，有沒有含我們輸美部分的汽車零組件？"],["鄒副署長宇新：輸美的汽車零組件是適用232條款，目前是15%不疊加。"],["李委員坤城：15%不疊加，所以這個不是10%？"],["鄒副署長宇新：10%不在這個適用範圍內。"],["李委員坤城：所以我們目前還是15%？"],["鄒副署長宇新：對，15%不疊加。"],["李委員坤城：不是10%？"],["鄒副署長宇新：不是。"],["李委員坤城：所以這次的10%裡面沒有含汽車零組件？"],["鄒副署長宇新：沒有。"],["李委員坤城：我們的汽車零組件還是維持在15%？"],["鄒副署長宇新：232條款以外的都不適用。"],["李委員坤城：所以汽車零組件的關稅就是15%了，這個關稅15%還會再做任何改變嗎？美國的301調查之後會有任何改變嗎？"],["鄒副署長宇新：我的理解應該就是在232的範疇內。"],["李委員坤城：好，那其實就更簡單啦，本來是要等到301的調查之後，因為它有分是屬於禁止強迫勞動的部分，另外還有一個……"],["鄒副署長宇新：產能過剩。"],["李委員坤城：產能過剩，這兩個確定之後，我本來以為這兩個確定之後，最後才確定我們輸美的汽車零組件關稅是不是10%，結果現在就是用232條款，就是15%就對了，好，那就更簡單了。","我請教部長，確定這個就是拿到15%，其實一樣，就是我們談判拿到15%，相對地、對等地，美國進來的汽車零組件，我們是不是也要相對地減少關稅、要降到零？"],["莊部長翠雲：這個要等ART生效，因為ART還要先送立法院審查。"],["李委員坤城：對，當然ART連同MOU要送到立法院嘛，對不對？"],["莊部長翠雲：對。"],["李委員坤城：所以輸到美國的我們拿到15%，美國輸進來的汽車零組件最後也是到零嘛，對不對？"],["莊部長翠雲：目前談判的結果是這樣。"],["李委員坤城：對，所以我們今天在談海關進口稅則有關汽車零組件的部分最後會到零嘛？"],["莊部長翠雲：今天修的海關進口稅則，各委員所提的版本是全面性地降，跟我們與美國是雙邊的部分不同，是針對美國進口的。"],["李委員坤城：對，我是說針對美國進口的這些零組件最後會降到零嘛？"],["莊部長翠雲：就是ART生效以後我們隨同配合修正海關進口稅則，而今天委員所提的版本並不是根據ART而來的。"],["李委員坤城：好，我先不管委員的版本，我是說因為現在臺美在談判，我們跟他們談判是對等的、互惠的，所以我們過去的是拿到15%，他們進口是0%嘛？"],["莊部長翠雲：對，目前ART裡面是這樣的情況。"],["李委員坤城：對啊，所以有關汽車零組件的部分，如果立法院同意ART，MOU生效了，最後關稅就會降到零了嘛？"],["莊部長翠雲：那是指美國進口的。"],["李委員坤城：對，是指美國進口的，因為我們現在是在跟美國談。"],["莊部長翠雲：是。"],["李委員坤城：我現在都是講美國的，因為等一下講到美國車的關稅要降到零，我也是講美國製造的車，那這個就確定了。我接下來就要問了，現在大家更關心，美國車進來，最後關稅是不是也降到零？"],["莊部長翠雲：目前在ART的談判是這樣，是對美國的小客車。"],["李委員坤城：對，只要這個車子是在美國製造的，就算是雙B或是日本比較高檔的車，只要是在美國製造的，賣到臺灣來的關稅就是零，17.5%的關稅就是變成零嘛！"],["莊部長翠雲：是，美國製造，對。"],["李委員坤城：這就確定嘛！"],["莊部長翠雲：是。"],["李委員坤城：所以大家就在期待或是在等待，美國的進口車賣到臺灣的關稅為零，那就是確定的事情，對不對？"],["莊部長翠雲：對，如果等到ART經過大院審議以後就是確定了。"],["李委員坤城：ART現在在行政院的作業部分算是完成了嗎？還是還要再等美方？"],["莊部長翠雲：等美方，因為要有法源依據，原來的IEEPA並不被最高法院接受。"],["李委員坤城：要等美方什麼作業完成呢？"],["莊部長翠雲：等美方完成法源依據。"],["李委員坤城：我們有掌握大概是什麼時間嗎？"],["莊部長翠雲：目前行政院OTN持續跟美國保持密切、暢通的溝通，我想這個部分他們都有所掌握，也會繼續溝通。"],["李委員坤城：年底有可能談判完成嗎？"],["莊部長翠雲：這個部分的時程不是我方可以做確定的。"],["李委員坤城：我的意思是，現在有遇到什麼樣的阻礙嗎？還是反正談判就是需要花一點時間？"],["莊部長翠雲：這個是行政院OTN在做處理的。"],["李委員坤城：經濟部有掌握到什麼訊息嗎？"],["鄒副署長宇新：報告委員，沒有，我這邊沒有。"],["李委員坤城：你那邊也沒有？"],["鄒副署長宇新：對。"],["李委員坤城：所以現在我們要等ART確定，行政院跟他們談完、確定之後，最後再送到立法院，立法院同意之後，像美國輸進來的汽車零組件及美國車的關稅都是零，這是確定的事情嘛！"],["莊部長翠雲：對，目前在談判，然後我們再跟著修海關進口稅則。"],["李委員坤城：這個也不會受到美國的301調查？這個沒有影響就對了？"],["莊部長翠雲：最後就要看ART什麼時候送進立法院通過。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